lyss build
ZekE 3000
I am a lvl20 d/mo pve and caped avatar of lyss and need a build tht backs up the elite i dont really use my secondary but all suggestions are acceptable.
MarxF
Avatar of Lyssa
Eternal Aura (ALWAYS IN PVE)
Heart of fury (ALWAYS HAVE AN IAS)
Sunspear Res signet
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Attack
Radiant Scythe
Mystic regeneration <-Debatable, but imo you always need a form of selfheal or protection
This is the standard Lyss build. You use Radiant scythe because it will close to always max out with Lyssa. You use Eremite's and Mystic to punish casters; when they begin casting you spam these two attacks (sometimes you get them both hit while casting) to get the +attack bonus from Lyssa.
Eternal Aura (ALWAYS IN PVE)
Heart of fury (ALWAYS HAVE AN IAS)
Sunspear Res signet
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Attack
Radiant Scythe
Mystic regeneration <-Debatable, but imo you always need a form of selfheal or protection
This is the standard Lyss build. You use Radiant scythe because it will close to always max out with Lyssa. You use Eremite's and Mystic to punish casters; when they begin casting you spam these two attacks (sometimes you get them both hit while casting) to get the +attack bonus from Lyssa.
Burst Cancel
D/W:
Lyssa
Flail/Heart of Fury
Mystic Sweep/Eremite's Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Eternal Aura
Aura of Holy Might
Wild Blow/Distracting Blow/Prot Strike
Res Sig
Alternatively:
Lyssa
Prot Strike
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Sweep
Zealous Renewal
Aura of Holy Might
Eternal Aura
Res Sig
Edit: Fixed typo referenced below.
Lyssa
Flail/Heart of Fury
Mystic Sweep/Eremite's Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Eternal Aura
Aura of Holy Might
Wild Blow/Distracting Blow/Prot Strike
Res Sig
Alternatively:
Lyssa
Prot Strike
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Sweep
Zealous Renewal
Aura of Holy Might
Eternal Aura
Res Sig
Edit: Fixed typo referenced below.
MarxF
Aura of Holy Might is also a good skill.
Also, Burst made a typo: it's flail/heart of fury. Heart of Holy Flame makes you deal holy dmg, which is nice but not an IAS.
Also, Burst made a typo: it's flail/heart of fury. Heart of Holy Flame makes you deal holy dmg, which is nice but not an IAS.
ZekE 3000
thank you im unlocking the skills today
ZekE 3000
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Originally Posted by MarxF
Avatar of Lyssa
Eternal Aura (ALWAYS IN PVE)
Heart of fury (ALWAYS HAVE AN IAS)
Sunspear Res signet
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Attack
Radiant Scythe
Mystic regeneration <-Debatable, but imo you always need a form of selfheal or protection
This is the standard Lyss build. You use Radiant scythe because it will close to always max out with Lyssa. You use Eremite's and Mystic to punish casters; when they begin casting you spam these two attacks (sometimes you get them both hit while casting) to get the +attack bonus from Lyssa. is the last bar optional?
Eternal Aura (ALWAYS IN PVE)
Heart of fury (ALWAYS HAVE AN IAS)
Sunspear Res signet
Mystic Sweep
Eremite's Attack
Radiant Scythe
Mystic regeneration <-Debatable, but imo you always need a form of selfheal or protection
This is the standard Lyss build. You use Radiant scythe because it will close to always max out with Lyssa. You use Eremite's and Mystic to punish casters; when they begin casting you spam these two attacks (sometimes you get them both hit while casting) to get the +attack bonus from Lyssa. is the last bar optional?
Coloneh
I use
D/W
myst 12+1
Scythe 12+1+1
Wild Blow
Eremite's attack
Mystic sweep
"I am the strongest" (rez if with people)
Lyssa
Eternal Aura
HoF
AoHM
D/W
myst 12+1
Scythe 12+1+1
Wild Blow
Eremite's attack
Mystic sweep
"I am the strongest" (rez if with people)
Lyssa
Eternal Aura
HoF
AoHM
MarxF
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Originally Posted by ZekE 3000
is the last bar optional?
It is, sometimes it's better to take Lightbringer's Gaze, aspect of the Norn or something else.
Sirius-NZ
I've successfully run a Lyssa build with no protection stuff at all. It also means you do more damage than if you sink anything into earth prayers.
Oh, and if you can get Great Dwarf Armor, that has a substantial defensive buff without requiring attribute points.
Build I run for pure DPS is:
Victorious Sweep
Radiant Scythe
Eremite's Attack
Heart of Fury
Aura of Holy Might
Avatar of Lyssa
Eternal Aura
Sunspear Rebirth Signet
It may work fairly well to swap Victorious Sweep for Wild Blow as well, since that's an auto-critical. And I would agree that "I am the strongest" is a good choice if you don't need the res.
Only thing with Radiant Scythe is that it requires a good supply of energy to be really effective, so it's probably best to use with a zealous weapon (e.g. Droknar's Reaper, since that extends AoHM to 24 seconds anyway).
Oh, and if you can get Great Dwarf Armor, that has a substantial defensive buff without requiring attribute points.
Build I run for pure DPS is:
Victorious Sweep
Radiant Scythe
Eremite's Attack
Heart of Fury
Aura of Holy Might
Avatar of Lyssa
Eternal Aura
Sunspear Rebirth Signet
It may work fairly well to swap Victorious Sweep for Wild Blow as well, since that's an auto-critical. And I would agree that "I am the strongest" is a good choice if you don't need the res.
Only thing with Radiant Scythe is that it requires a good supply of energy to be really effective, so it's probably best to use with a zealous weapon (e.g. Droknar's Reaper, since that extends AoHM to 24 seconds anyway).
street peddler
[skill]mystic sweep[/skill][skill]eremite's attack[/skill]
you need these when using lyssa
you need these when using lyssa
Marverick
for PvE
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][wiki]Aura of Holy Might[/wiki][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Signet of Malice[/skill][wiki]Eternal Aura[/wiki][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]
Could swap Wearying Strike with [wiki]Radiant Scythe[/wiki] and take a res instead of SoM if you have another person with deep wound.
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][wiki]Aura of Holy Might[/wiki][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Signet of Malice[/skill][wiki]Eternal Aura[/wiki][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]
Could swap Wearying Strike with [wiki]Radiant Scythe[/wiki] and take a res instead of SoM if you have another person with deep wound.
Coloneh
wearing + condition removal is lame and slow. if you want a deep wound easily, bring Augury of Death
odly
I used a sword and shield for a big portion of nightfall with a Lyss build.
The faster base attack speed of swords/axes/daggers synergies well with this elite form.
Sword and axe also give you access to a (tactics) shield for that little extra protection.
If I remember I had something like :
[skill]Distracting blow[/skill][skill]Barbarous Slice[/skill][skill]Jaizhenju Strike[/skill][skill]Silverwing Slash[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][wiki]eternal aura[/wiki][skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill][wiki]Sunspear Rebirth signet[/wiki]
I'm not entirelly sure about the attack skills. There might be better options. I know you could get more fast activating skills in there, but a sword with heart of fury hits pretty fast all the time.
Well I didn't have eternal aura back then off course, but I would add it now. :-) Remember that eternal aura also recharges heart of fury. I probably had Galrath's slash or Gash instead.
The faster base attack speed of swords/axes/daggers synergies well with this elite form.
Sword and axe also give you access to a (tactics) shield for that little extra protection.
If I remember I had something like :
[skill]Distracting blow[/skill][skill]Barbarous Slice[/skill][skill]Jaizhenju Strike[/skill][skill]Silverwing Slash[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][wiki]eternal aura[/wiki][skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill][wiki]Sunspear Rebirth signet[/wiki]
I'm not entirelly sure about the attack skills. There might be better options. I know you could get more fast activating skills in there, but a sword with heart of fury hits pretty fast all the time.
Well I didn't have eternal aura back then off course, but I would add it now. :-) Remember that eternal aura also recharges heart of fury. I probably had Galrath's slash or Gash instead.
~ Dan ~
odly, Warrior forum is that way ------>
MarxF
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
odly, Warrior forum is that way ------>
this man is correct.
Coloneh
thats a dervish build, and not a bad one. a scythe build is better, but not that much better.
~ Dan ~
Oh it is a bad one. What reason is there to use a sword? Oh, because that .42 of a second increased speed makes all the difference? Cmon, Derv + lyssa + scythe + timed attack skills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that garbage.
Bassu
And beside that, it's not using Lyssa's 2nd most important boost: +20 energy. With that much of additional energy AoL builds are capable of having expensive attacks skills/enchantments, remember that.
Painbringer
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Originally Posted by Bassu
And beside that, it's not using Lyssa's 2nd most important boost: +20 energy. With that much of additional energy AoL builds are capable of having expensive attacks skills/enchantments, remember that.
He has on his bar
Radiant Scythe 5 energy 6 recharge
Scythe Attack. This attack strikes for +2 damage for each point of Energy you currently have (maximum 5...41...50 damage).
Good damage every 6 seconds
Radiant Scythe 5 energy 6 recharge
Scythe Attack. This attack strikes for +2 damage for each point of Energy you currently have (maximum 5...41...50 damage).
Good damage every 6 seconds
Bassu
I think the discussion between Coloneh and Dan was about that sword-build. Can't see a Lyssa's +20e use there completely.
Coloneh
it was, and the +20 energy isnt really something you can "take advantage of" its not energy managment. if you time a higher cap is a may to cast more exspensive skills you fail at GW.
Bassu
No, by not using this boost properly I meant that he shouldn't be using adrenaline-based skills when he has such a large pool of energy. I'm not the W specialist but I bet that there are some nice energy-based attacks which can be used over those adren-based ones.
Coloneh
adrenaline based attacks kick ass. it always bothers me when i dont use adrenaline ion my assassin/dervish, I feel like im wasting resources.
~ Dan ~
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
adrenaline based attacks kick ass. it always bothers me when i dont use adrenaline ion my assassin/dervish, I feel like im wasting resources.
The primary advantage dervs have over wars is that they can spike instantly because energy is there, unlike adrenaline. I think you should go roll a warrior.
Marverick
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
wearing + condition removal is lame and slow. if you want a deep wound easily, bring Augury of Death
Augury of Death consumes 1.75 seconds and doesn't add any extra damage to the mix... Wearying Strike activates like a normal scythe attack that does +19 damage on top of the regular Scythe attack, triggers AoL, and Signet of Malice adds only 1 second to that with its 1/4 cast time.
And I can deep wound every 6 seconds, only 12 for you sorry.
And I can deep wound every 6 seconds, only 12 for you sorry.
Coloneh
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
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Originally Posted by Marverick
Augury of Death consumes 1.75 seconds and doesn't add any extra damage to the mix... Wearying Strike activates like a normal scythe attack that does +19 damage on top of the regular Scythe attack, triggers AoL, and Signet of Malice adds only 1 second to that with its 1/4 cast time.
And I can deep wound every 6 seconds, only 12 for you sorry. Augury of death is a precast, it dosnt take any time out of your spike. in that extra second you waste on SoMalice someone could remove the deep wound. if you drop deep wound on a target (a normal PvE target) with half health, youshould be able to spike them down in one swing.
Sirius-NZ
Which is why it's advantageous not to weaken yourself when applying a DW - you want to follow that up with a (potentially) killing blow. Weakness undermines your opportunity to do that, and the time you spend removing it could mean you lose your chance...
Plus, with one skill to do the job you get space for another!
MrFinklestein
I just got Lyssa and it kicks so much ass. At the end of Vizunah Square I got up to the casters and killed them 3 at at time.
Sirugel Kai
This is the Lyssa bar im using at the moment
[skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill] [skill]Radiant Scythe[/skill] [skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] |Or| [skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill] [skill]Eternal Aura[/skill] [skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]a[skill]Sunspear Rebirth Signet[/skill]z Seems like half of them dont show up >_>
Sirius-NZ
Welcome to GW:EN and PvE-only skills. :/ They actually buffed Dervishes quite a lot with them.
Incidentally I have that exact build for quite a few situations  I use the AoHM variant though.
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