i dont know if there's been a thread like this... if so consider this as closed ^^
i call it "way of the cheap"
this is meant for PVE
any comments are welcome as long as they are contributing to enhance the build ^^
[skill]way of the empty palm[/skill][skill]siphon speed[/skill][skill]black spider strike[/skill][skill]twisting fangs[/skill][skill]golden phoenix strike[/skill][skill]repeating strike[/skill][skill]critical agility[/skill][skill]optional[/skill]
way of the cheap build... comments pls
flipfly2004
Zena Starlight
I stopped when I saw Repeating strike. Seriously if it takes that long to kill a monster in pve then your team build has some issues. Take some attacks with shorter recharge time. Maybe some Death Blossom spam?
Diddy bow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zena Starlight
I stopped when I saw Repeating strike. Seriously if it takes that long to kill a monster in pve then your team build has some issues. Take some attacks with shorter recharge time. Maybe some Death Blossom spam?
ah yes shorter than repeating strike well theres... um...
The build looks like an ok use of that elite though.
The build looks like an ok use of that elite though.
Bowstring Badass
Death Blossom > Repeating Strike.
ensoriki
Ah....but what about Death BLossom + REpeating Strike
lol....
Anyways for the build
Needs moar critical agility.
I also don't really like the combo, it seems unecessary.
Seriously you could probably just run
GPS+ Repeating, and throw in DB or TF instead of the entire 4 skill combo.
just seems unnecessary in pve to have all that.
lol....
Anyways for the build
Needs moar critical agility.
I also don't really like the combo, it seems unecessary.
Seriously you could probably just run
GPS+ Repeating, and throw in DB or TF instead of the entire 4 skill combo.
just seems unnecessary in pve to have all that.
Diddy bow
Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
Ah....but what about Death BLossom + REpeating Strike
lol....
Anyways for the build
Needs moar critical agility.
I also don't really like the combo, it seems unecessary.
Seriously you could probably just run
GPS+ Repeating, and throw in DB or TF instead of the entire 4 skill combo.
just seems unnecessary in pve to have all that. Critical agility is already there... :P
lol....
Anyways for the build
Needs moar critical agility.
I also don't really like the combo, it seems unecessary.
Seriously you could probably just run
GPS+ Repeating, and throw in DB or TF instead of the entire 4 skill combo.
just seems unnecessary in pve to have all that. Critical agility is already there... :P
ensoriki
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Critical agility is already there... :P
Im Using Blind Was Ensoriki!
John Panda
Repeating Strike is Terrible sooo bad don't use it.
morimoto
why is repeating strike such a bad skill? the damage is OK and it has no down time if it hits.
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad.
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad.
Diddy bow
Quote:
Originally Posted by morimoto
why is repeating strike such a bad skill? the damage is OK and it has no down time if it hits.
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad. Genarally, Assassin wise spike damage is alot better than maintained damage, but in PvE spike damage isnt so helpful so repeating is ok, the Mobius-blossom combo is far better though, but PvE wise that beats anything, its nice to try out somthing else somtimes ^^.
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad. Genarally, Assassin wise spike damage is alot better than maintained damage, but in PvE spike damage isnt so helpful so repeating is ok, the Mobius-blossom combo is far better though, but PvE wise that beats anything, its nice to try out somthing else somtimes ^^.
ensoriki
Quote:
Originally Posted by morimoto
why is repeating strike such a bad skill? the damage is OK and it has no down time if it hits.
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad. Drains energy like a mofo.
You can get more damage Not taking it and replacing it with another skill.
It's a pressure skill, and to be good
You need e-management, Real e-management >.>
Foe needs to be crippled/snared
IAS pl0x, It's teh slowz
also
+26/28 (my memory fails) damage at 13 D-mastery
Warrior gives better pressure.
Must follow an off-hand
it'z teh slow
>.>
You know if repeating strike had any one of these...it be better
1/2 cast
or
give back 3 energy if a condition is met.
damage buff
must follow a dual =P
one of those
plz, dont flame me or treat me like a child. i am just trying to get a better understanding of why certain skills are good/bad. Drains energy like a mofo.
You can get more damage Not taking it and replacing it with another skill.
It's a pressure skill, and to be good
You need e-management, Real e-management >.>
Foe needs to be crippled/snared
IAS pl0x, It's teh slowz
also
+26/28 (my memory fails) damage at 13 D-mastery
Warrior gives better pressure.
Must follow an off-hand
it'z teh slow
>.>
You know if repeating strike had any one of these...it be better
1/2 cast
or
give back 3 energy if a condition is met.
damage buff
must follow a dual =P
one of those
Mickey
Ensoriki is using Blind Was Ensoriki!
Way of the Empty Palm makes all offhand and dual attacks (?) cost -10 energy.
If I remember correctly.
Way of the Empty Palm makes all offhand and dual attacks (?) cost -10 energy.
If I remember correctly.
zknifeh
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Death Blossom > Repeating Strike.
last i checked repeating strike must follow an offhand not dual attack
on the other hand i think that elite is:
grab any set of skills that does high dmg and follow ur chain till the enchantment ends
on the other hand i think that elite is:
grab any set of skills that does high dmg and follow ur chain till the enchantment ends
Bowstring Badass
Quote:
Originally Posted by zknifeh
last i checked repeating strike must follow an offhand not dual attack
... Wow I said Death Blossom is better. It is better because he would be wasting 5 energy by hitting Repeating Strike twice. Death Blossom is 5 energy and does +40 twice compared to 5 energy and does +26 for 1 hit.
Apparently you DON'T UNDERSTAND the Death Blossom > Repeating Strike comment. By that I meant Death Blossom would be better then Repeating Strike.
@mickey- It makes off-hands and dual cost nothing.
... Wow I said Death Blossom is better. It is better because he would be wasting 5 energy by hitting Repeating Strike twice. Death Blossom is 5 energy and does +40 twice compared to 5 energy and does +26 for 1 hit.
Apparently you DON'T UNDERSTAND the Death Blossom > Repeating Strike comment. By that I meant Death Blossom would be better then Repeating Strike.
@mickey- It makes off-hands and dual cost nothing.
Tyla
It relies on a hex and an enchantment.
and it has repeating strike.
and it has repeating strike.
You can't see me
I can spam flare, but it still doesn't do as much damage as fireball... same concept applies to repeating strike.
X Cytherea X
yeah but the repeating strike animation looks cooler than death blossom 
@flipfly: the build doesnt suck dude, you're applying poison bleed and dw, followed by sustained damage, all for free. it's different from ms-db but good too
@flipfly: the build doesnt suck dude, you're applying poison bleed and dw, followed by sustained damage, all for free. it's different from ms-db but good too
Bowstring Badass
Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
yeah but the repeating strike animation looks cooler than death blossom
lol? Who cares about looks everyone knows it is about effectiveness.
lol? Who cares about looks everyone knows it is about effectiveness.
Bobby2
If you like doing it for the animations then why haven't you suggested Blades of Steel yet? ^^
Anyway the animation on MS is pretty darn cool too!
Anyway the animation on MS is pretty darn cool too!
Bowstring Badass
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby2
If you like doing it for the animations then why haven't you suggested Blades of Steel yet? ^^
I am on crack... BoS would be better then DB.
makosi
I think it looks good. Extremely energy-friendly.
However, I feel that mindlessly spamming Moebus Strike and Death Blossom with the occasional Twisted Fangs is great DPS and zealous daggers with high Critical Strikes makes for good energy management. Also, with the extreme level of enchantment removal in higher up areas of PvE, dedicating your Elite to an enchantments is somewhat risqué.
Siphon Speed is a top skill in PvP but in PvE the monsters don't kite so much so I'd prefer to stick to Dagger Mastery and Critical Strikes for damage output.
However, I feel that mindlessly spamming Moebus Strike and Death Blossom with the occasional Twisted Fangs is great DPS and zealous daggers with high Critical Strikes makes for good energy management. Also, with the extreme level of enchantment removal in higher up areas of PvE, dedicating your Elite to an enchantments is somewhat risqué.
Siphon Speed is a top skill in PvP but in PvE the monsters don't kite so much so I'd prefer to stick to Dagger Mastery and Critical Strikes for damage output.
Bowstring Badass
Siphon Speed is there so he can connect with Black Spider Strike...
flipfly2004
for all those issues like: how come you need repeating strike if ur spiking?
assassin is my fav char because i like shadow stepping and spiking. the reason i put together this build is that in high end areas, mobs are level 26-30. if u guys have a build which can spike those enemies pls tell us XD
energy management... u will almost have full energy everytime with this build because ur attacks cost 0 energy due to way of the empty palm
i used siphon speed because of the recharge time (to trigger black spider strike)
assassin is my fav char because i like shadow stepping and spiking. the reason i put together this build is that in high end areas, mobs are level 26-30. if u guys have a build which can spike those enemies pls tell us XD
energy management... u will almost have full energy everytime with this build because ur attacks cost 0 energy due to way of the empty palm
i used siphon speed because of the recharge time (to trigger black spider strike)
Gambit Shinobi
Although this build dishes out some nice conditions, the recharge of most of the skills are quite long. So unless you're trying to kill bosses and/or super high DEF mobs, this build is somewhat gimped for most PvE situations.
DB Moebius spam is often good enough for spiking high level mobs and even bosses through my experience.
DB Moebius spam is often good enough for spiking high level mobs and even bosses through my experience.