ATTN: Gaile - Griefers Ruining the Event

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

People are grabbing the gift and hiding behind storage in L.A. , thus preventing grenchies from getting it , and preventing gifts from spawning.
This was a problem last year and those doing it should recieve some kind of ban for this intentional exploiting/griefing.

Person doing it was kind enough to allow me to post this:
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Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Yes, that is kind of annoying.

Dervish Kid

Dervish Kid

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Florida

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lol...whats the purpose in even getting the presents?

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish Kid
lol...whats the purpose in even getting the presents?
Present Hunt

This is a mini-game played in Lion's Arch and Kamadan, Jewel of Istan. Periodically a present will randomly spawned.

Players must quickly pick up the present and deliver it to one of the Young Children in town before any of the Grentches reach the present and destroy it. Grentches could also destroy presents held by players if they come within adjacent range. When a present spawns the Grentches would run all the way to the spawn point before chasing someone who had picked it up.

Note that Grentches move much faster than players, however if you use a Sugar Rush sweet item, you can easily outrun them.

In return, the child would hand the player a Candy Cane Shard or, if the present is handed to Scrappy Jhim in Lion's Arch, a Winter Gift which will unwrap into a random Wintersday collectable item.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Same thing in Kamadan, except they hide in the cage.

The Real Avalon

The Real Avalon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium, Ostend.

Mo/A

lame, wish I never exposed that spot behind the storage

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

Go to another district

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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You think they should be BANNED for this? Wow.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Wow, people really find some creative ways to screw with everyone's fun, don't they?

It's annoying, but I'd recommend just switching districts if you're that pumped about the gift game. Of course, now that you've posted it on Guru, we're probably going to see an explosion of me-toos griefing LA now, kinda like the permapre kidnapping thing earlier this year. XD

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oh noes! teh presents!

Losing their account for this? don't be stupid

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

This was happening last year, too. Actually, when they didn't start the present hunt this year for awhile, I thought perhaps Anet had eliminated it precisely because of this sort of thing. Ah well.

The short version is, they don't appear to care. The rewards for present hunting are dismal in comparison to the frustration it generates, I suggest hunting candy cane shards for your gift acquisition needs. Leave the pathetic little griefers to their petty idiocy.

Lord Natural

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

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lol. Saddest QQ thread yet.

Sub Frost

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

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Sad little kids... I just hope that's not the highlight of there day...

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

I will check with Support about this. It's not a "bannable" offense, I'm sure, but I imagine that the Support Team guys will say that griefing another player, or group of players, could earn someone a few days in the penalty box, that is, a minor block on their account.

I think the players doing this are being unkind and foolish, and let's be honest, no one is doing this "accidentally." Therefore, Support would be entirely likely to see the intention as a desire to reduce other peoples' ability to have fun, perhaps a form of harassment or abuse. That means that those players who are bringing the in-town game to a screeching halt could have their account actioned. And if that happens today, they would miss the Wintersday finale.

So I would suggest, with all good intentions, that if you're doing this, you should stop it. And if you're not doing it, please don't start.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oh come on now...you'd bother support (and take them away from real issues) just because some people can't get some lame ass presents?

Simple district switch = problem resolved

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Oh come on now...you'd bother support (and take them away from real issues) just because some people can't get some lame ass presents?

Simple district switch = problem resolved
Yes but it's ruining someone's game!! You wouldn't want that to happen to your game would you?!

Instead have your devs look into making this game more fun Gaile or hell finish up Guild Wars 2 faster, do something so I don't cry from boredom when I look at the Guild Wars shortcut on my desktop.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

It's crying over a non-issue, but what ever floats your boat.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
It's crying over a non-issue, but what ever floats your boat.
Maybe I should have added a ? Haha.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

/starts doing this just 'cause of this thread's existence

<_< >_>

But seriously, come on now. Your game is ruined from your inability to move up one district?

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

You're right. People could change districts. Unless they didn't choose to, or unless this became so widespread that the mini-games were virtually closed down by people griefing. So the question is, should (an innocent) someone be inconvenienced and told that he/she should deal with it, because (a guilty) someone else is being rude? If so, where does that stop? "If you don't like the racism, leave the district?" "If you don't want me to leech, find another team?" What if someone found a way to stand in front of a gate and stop a PvP match from starting? Should our answer be, "Oh, just start over," or "Find another party?"

It's fair to set expectations for appropriate behavior towards one another. I've asked the Support leads -- they'll let me know. After that, team members who are in the games doing other things can monitor and react to this griefing, as well, if a reaction is deemed appropriate.

The Real Avalon

The Real Avalon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium, Ostend.

Mo/A

How to fix:

- If someone's doing this; change a district
- The only reason people still present hunt is because there's no other way to obtain winter gifts; give the players other ways
e.g. collector; win in DVG; random drop
- fix the exploit and make grentches auto-teleport into the presents if they have been stuck for more than 10 seconds straight
- get your grentches some better pathing
- make the grentches transparant instead of solid objects
- make the candy canes in kamadan and the xunlai agents around LA transparant


Still; if someone's doing this, it does mean free fireworks (the same as in the exploding winter gifts), which was the thing to trigger me into doing it

Cheers,

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

Hey Gaile

On the subject of presents, remember last year in Kamaden, presents spawned on the ledges next to the 9 rings (on both sides) and noone could reach them.

Will this be updated this time around?

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

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Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Avalon
- The only reason people still present hunt is because there's no other way to obtain winter gifts; give the players other ways
e.g. collector; win in DVG; random drop
There is a collector. Check Great Temple of Balthazar lately?

Kook~NBK~

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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Natural Born Killaz

"Switch districts" a not a good answer. No one should have to district hop in hopes of finding one where there isn't some loser screwing up the fun others are trying to have. Since there's only 10 or so LA American districts, it only takes 10 or so jerks to screw it up for everyone playing on American servers - which means changing regions, meaning crowding up those regions and possibly finding the same crap going on!

I hope the little pricks get their accounts suspended over New Years, they don't deserve the goodies from the main event!

Saraphim

Saraphim

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Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
There is a collector. Check Great Temple of Balthazar lately?
Indeed, and also if you keep doing the quest "The Strength of Snow" (repeatable) you'll end up with a ton of them. On average that quest drops between 15 - 20 cc shards, plus 5 for cashing it in, then hand them in to the Wintersday Gift Giver at 5 shards a pop. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Personally I'd like to see these tools lose their hat opportunity, serves em right.

Tachyon

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Gusnana1412

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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One neat solution: Put timer on the Present it self, the present will explode after 5mins (maybe more or less) then respawn again.

The Real Avalon

The Real Avalon

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium, Ostend.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
There is a collector. Check Great Temple of Balthazar lately?
WINTER GIFT DOES NOT EQUAL WINTERSDAY GIFT

Only learned to read just now?

??? L??wLi????????? ???

??? L??wLi????????? ???

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Dela-where?

Demonic Rage [dr]

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I sorry
I didnt know it made other presnts stop dropping.
I wont do it again D:
I had did it in Kamadan cuz i thought it was cool <.<

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Avalon
WINTER GIFT DOES NOT EQUAL WINTERSDAY GIFT

Only learned to read just now?
Wiki: This Winter Gift, in the Wintersday 2006 and Wintersday 2007 events, is obtained only by collecting a present from the ground and giving it to a Young Child, in which they will give you one back to open to get a random item. This is not to be confused with a Wintersday Gift, which was dropped at the end of the three-hourly events during the Wintersday Finale.

So... what's the difference?

genofreek

genofreek

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Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gusnana1412
One neat solution: Put timer on the Present it self, the present will explode after 5mins (maybe more or less) then respawn again.
I think that'd be best, actually. That's more than enough time to avoid Grentches and get the gifts to Scrappy if you're actually playing the game, but not enough time for people to go "Hey, isn't the present going to spawn?"

Anyone hiding with presents can have the minute or so of fun they get out of griefing without spoiling the entire district indefinitely just by going AFK.

I still say it's not as big an issue as the mapping exploit, but obviously people are angry enough about this to keep the thread alive, so there you go.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

And this is exactly why I didn't take part in the event!



Well ... not really ... but it does sound much better then ... I just don't care.
Khmmm - I wonder if Puzzle Quest has a fan forum full of bitching!??!
Off to the Batmobile to find out Robin!

The Real Avalon

The Real Avalon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium, Ostend.

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

So... what's the difference?
you just quoted it

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gusnana1412
One neat solution: Put timer on the Present it self, the present will explode after 5mins (maybe more or less) then respawn again.
Dragon Festival, endgame where people run around avoiding grasps. If you hold an orb for a certain amount of time, it disappears. They should just do the same with the presents.

Avalon, so why make a big deal out of it if there's no difference?

Darkobra

Darkobra

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Avalon
you just quoted it
So, miniscule.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

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Zaishen Brotherhood

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Natural
lol. Saddest QQ thread yet.


u win the thread...........


btw quit ur complaining......btw farm some gold plz ^^

joke in all fiarness u do have a good complaint OP...sad thing is most people dont care

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

just kick the guys doing this 'til January 3rd ^^
or put a timer to make the present poof/drop after a minute

Vinraith

Vinraith

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
just kick the guys doing this 'til January 3rd ^^
or put a timer to make the present poof/drop after a minute
I like that idea.

You have been banned for unfestive behavior, no hat for you.

jammerpa

jammerpa

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Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
I like that idea.

You have been banned for unfestive behavior, no hat for you.
/signed

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Hexum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

MxG

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by † LãwLiþøþ™ †
I sorry
I didnt know it made other presnts stop dropping.
I wont do it again D:
I had did it in Kamadan cuz i thought it was cool <.<
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