Shame and Dervish Enchantments

SlimChance

SlimChance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Me/N

I'm at the end of Nightfall with my Mesmer. I pretty much run as an interrupt mesmer with Empathy added in for those pesky Ranger/Warrior/Dervish types.

I usually have Guilt in my bar, but I was thinking of switching to Shame to help interrupt the occasional Dervish Enchantments. However, I'm not sure if it would trigger or not, and I haven't had time to test it out..

Shame states: "the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally, the Spell fails and you steal up to XX Energy from that foe."

But the Dervish's enchantmenst all state that they apply to "you".

So is "you" considered as a "target ally"?

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

never tested it but there is a difference between spells that "target ally" such as [skill]orison of healing[/skill] and spells that "target other ally" such as [skill]heal other[/skill] since guilt affects spells that "target ally" I assume it should work on self inflicted spells.

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

It's possible that it does not work, on the basis that Dervish enchantments, by and large, do not operate on a target. Give it a test though, I suppose.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I'm pretty sure self targeting enchantments don't trigger shame, I know no target enchantments such as aegis don't trigger shame so I think self target only falls in the same category.

dies like fish

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Winter Wonderland [brrr]

W/E

[skill]Shatter Enchantment[/skill][skill]Inspired Enchantment[/skill][skill]Revealed Enchantment[/skill][skill]Shatter Storm[/skill][skill]Lyssa's Balance[/skill][skill]Mirror of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Drain Enchantment[/skill][skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill]

All you really need right there.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

That is correct, it does not work on 'self' enchantments

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dies like fish
[skill]Shatter Enchantment[/skill][skill]Inspired Enchantment[/skill][skill]Revealed Enchantment[/skill][skill]Shatter Storm[/skill][skill]Lyssa's Balance[/skill][skill]Mirror of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Drain Enchantment[/skill][skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill]

All you really need right there. I may be wrong, but I think that's a bit too much enchantment removal...

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

not to mention completely off topic..

SlimChance

SlimChance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Me/N

Thanks for the reply's.
I thought that it might, but having played as a Mesmer since the beta, I'm not surprised that it doesn't.

Floski

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Rank Three Plus Pug [deer]

W/

Shame does not affect self-targeting dervish enchants. Targeting means you have a choice in the matter. Those dervish ones, most of them, you have no choice, they go on the caster every time. Shame doesn't pop on those.

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

target ally: anyone on your team including you
target other ally: everyone on your team except you