I'm having a bit of a problem, lately I've been switching between a Monk and an Elementalist, enjoying them both.
What I want to do though is to have a main, so I was wondering, which profession is "better" at endgame?
By "better" I mean: better farming ability, easy to get into group, good at UW/FoW, easier to get titles etc.
I own Prophecies, Factions and soon Nightfall.
Thanks in advance
To heal or to nuke?
Nucking Foobz
-Loki-
Both, actually.
Velise_Snowtorm
I agree with Loki.
Both of those classes easily fill the requirements you're seeking. Both are highly desired for high-end gaming.
Just boils down to your preferred playstyle overall. Do you like being the bombdropper or the backbone of the group? I'd just as well play both of them up if you enjoy them both.
Both of those classes easily fill the requirements you're seeking. Both are highly desired for high-end gaming.
Just boils down to your preferred playstyle overall. Do you like being the bombdropper or the backbone of the group? I'd just as well play both of them up if you enjoy them both.
mazey vorstagg
Monks will get into groups all the time, but really you don't want to be grouping with pugs. Having said that, if you're with your guild you'll get into groups as an ele np either.
I'd say Ele 'cos they rock at farming completely, and my main is an ele
I'd say Ele 'cos they rock at farming completely, and my main is an ele
cosyfiep
personally I would pick nuker just because they usually dont get yelled at if the party dies like the monk does.
aapo
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personally I would pick nuker just because they usually dont get yelled at if the party dies like the monk does.
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genofreek
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personally I would pick nuker just because they usually dont get yelled at if the party dies like the monk does.
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I'd rather stand back and spike/nuke/freeze.
Wish Swiftdeath
meh i like healing, its more of a challenge keeping pug's alive then fighting the monsters yourself
Longasc
I suggest Elementalist.
Why?
PvE healing of NPCs is either incredibly boring - healing henchmen also has requires you to call targets constantly, or they just do incredible bullshit and even supreme healing cannot keep them alive forever. Ritualists with their weapon spells and many indirect nukes have a similar problem. Elementalists lead the party, the NPCs follow better, they do not have this "me+heroes only" gameplay issue. If you like to play a lot on your own, definitely go Elementalist.
As a monk you get even easier into a group, that is the advantage. But PUGs are nothing you would desire in general. But at least you have a choice which group you pick.
For farming, they have different styles, but both are among the most efficient farmers.
In terms of looks, I prefer the female elementalist armors and skins over that of male/female monks and male elementalists. Beware that male elementalists have an incredible gay dance and not that much armor selection, I still think the Hydromancer 15k from Prophecies is one of the few good ones for them.
Why?
PvE healing of NPCs is either incredibly boring - healing henchmen also has requires you to call targets constantly, or they just do incredible bullshit and even supreme healing cannot keep them alive forever. Ritualists with their weapon spells and many indirect nukes have a similar problem. Elementalists lead the party, the NPCs follow better, they do not have this "me+heroes only" gameplay issue. If you like to play a lot on your own, definitely go Elementalist.
As a monk you get even easier into a group, that is the advantage. But PUGs are nothing you would desire in general. But at least you have a choice which group you pick.
For farming, they have different styles, but both are among the most efficient farmers.
In terms of looks, I prefer the female elementalist armors and skins over that of male/female monks and male elementalists. Beware that male elementalists have an incredible gay dance and not that much armor selection, I still think the Hydromancer 15k from Prophecies is one of the few good ones for them.
genofreek
True that, my best friend plays a male ele and had to go pretty far out of her way to get him some armor that doesn't include a silly penguin coat.
He still looks like he belongs in a marching band, but that's okay.
He still looks like he belongs in a marching band, but that's okay.
Wish Swiftdeath
this is some nice monk armor too: http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/I...ne_armor_f.jpg
The Riven
Out of the two i would choose a monk, yes they can be a very tiresome role to play in pve and yes healing ncp's is a thankless task that gets dull very fast indeed.
That said there are many many brain dead eles out there while a good monk is a godsend. The farming capabilitys alone would sway the argument for me.
I was going to go into far more detail but my hangover is remakably large and i just cant be bothered.
That said there are many many brain dead eles out there while a good monk is a godsend. The farming capabilitys alone would sway the argument for me.
I was going to go into far more detail but my hangover is remakably large and i just cant be bothered.
blue.rellik
As far as PUGs go, Monks are the most sought after then 'nukers'. Because the majority of GW PvE players are complete morons, the perfect group for them is 2 healing monks (no prot), 3 'nuker' eles (firestorm is in there somewhere), a MM (flesh golem duh) and a SS (most likely a combo of Curses+illusion with very little soul reaping) necro and a 'tank' (usually a warrior for some reason).
So yeah, you should have little trouble finding any groups with either profession. They're both very good at farming as well.
So yeah, you should have little trouble finding any groups with either profession. They're both very good at farming as well.
Lady Raenef
Playing a PvE elementalist is just a ton of fun hailing Meteors from the sky. Knowing your wicked power crushed the enemies is awesome. Monking in PvE tends to get boring, but awards great looking gear to get easily accepted into teams for PvP. And I'm a PvP person, so I'd rather have a PvE monk built up than an elementalist.
Sha Noran
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- Could this be the reason why there's always abundance of sub-par nukers who think Meteor Shower is a good skill to have, but good Monks never show up in teams?
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Terraban
Play both...
Having a "main" only benefits titles, and titles are shit.
Having a "main" only benefits titles, and titles are shit.
Squishy ftw
I would say ele if you like to hero/hench a lot. Mainly because heroes are quite annoying when you're a monk. They will just stop attacking if you don't wand stuff in time..
Blanche Neige
I would say Elementalist, its much fun to do most of damage either henching and in pug than healing henchies what gets so boring, or healing in a pug.
upier
Paragons, Warriors, Monks, Necros.
The most insane things in PvE.
Monking with hench is one of the worst concepts in GW though ...
The most insane things in PvE.
Monking with hench is one of the worst concepts in GW though ...
Terraban
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Paragons, Warriors, Monks, Necros.
The most insane things in PvE. Monking with hench is one of the worst concepts in GW though ... |
Watching Koss run back and forth between you and the monsters gets annoying however.
upier
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Caster hench with Monks isn't that bad...
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It's more of me simply not caring enough for the hench to keep them alive.
I quite like monking for people. Since when they do stupid things - I let them die.
Koss learns nothing when I let him die.
kobey
ele vs monk
Ask yourself this question:
Do you prefer to burn someone else, or to protect someone from burning?
Ask yourself this question:
Do you prefer to burn someone else, or to protect someone from burning?
Sub Frost
Both have there pros and cons, and both are great chars. to use.
I guess it will all depend if your in a life saving mood or life taking
I guess it will all depend if your in a life saving mood or life taking
bhavv
I have an Elly as may main character and a monk as a second character. I love both classes, but if your only going to play one I'd choose elly because they make good healers as E/Rt's with Master of Magic too (Like N/Rt's but dont need corpses for energy).
cosyfiep
I have 3 eles and 4 monks....when I play monk with my heroes I use smiting (much more fun than healing them), IF I pug I go healing or prot...so you can switch around. My eles each have a discipline they follow, main one is fire (and no ms), then earth then air (I let Zhed play with water).....I have also played monk with my e/mo since she has a large energy pool to use (and when the monks are healing its easier for her to rez than make the healers stop to pick up the dead).
ensoriki
Elementalist
The world doesn't need moar monks
It needs less so I can glad farm quicker =P
Eles can also farm, and use that heal party thingy ma bob
Monks can piss me off...
The world doesn't need moar monks
It needs less so I can glad farm quicker =P
Eles can also farm, and use that heal party thingy ma bob
Monks can piss me off...
6am3 Fana71c
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Elementalist
The world doesn't need moar monks It needs less so I can glad farm quicker =P Eles can also farm, and use that heal party thingy ma bob Monks can piss me off... |
On topic, I think playing monk is better. It's just pure win. Providing you are serious and want to be good monk. Heroes can nuke shit just fine. I prefer leaving more delicate work for someone with brains
ensoriki
I don't like monks >.>
Eles are fun and can Nuke, Spike, or provide utility
Monks can also spike and they provide utility,
Both farm well, and if you have the space take both
But I don't like monks >.>
Also make me stop posti*gets shot*
Eles are fun and can Nuke, Spike, or provide utility
Monks can also spike and they provide utility,
Both farm well, and if you have the space take both
But I don't like monks >.>
Also make me stop posti*gets shot*
Age
I would say that most are looking for Nukers when a pug wants an Ele into a party as for the UW and FoW.They want Nukers there to.
Zhack
PvP: Monk
PvE: Ele
Monk is, imo, the most fun profession to play in PvP, always need to stay alert and try to see what everyone else is doing.
In PvE its about killing fast and/or surviving long, eles kill fast, and like have been said earlier, healing H/H really sucks.
PvE: Ele
Monk is, imo, the most fun profession to play in PvP, always need to stay alert and try to see what everyone else is doing.
In PvE its about killing fast and/or surviving long, eles kill fast, and like have been said earlier, healing H/H really sucks.
DreamRunner
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This exactly. I quit healbotting because of wammos with Sprint and Frenzy racing away and then wondering why I didn't follow through two aggro bubbles' worth of mobs to keep them alive. :P
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Ebony Shadowheart
Of all my characters, I play my monks, eles and necros most and I don't have a single main character either. I'm going to go with Loki and say 'both' as well. In all honesty, it really depends on your playing style which profession would be better for you in terms of a single "main" one. I don't farm with my monks, per say. I do some on my ele and some on my sins, but nothing major so I'm not a good judge for that. You only really need 1 main if you are 'title inclined' and again, either would work fine. My older monk and my older ele both have KoaBD, so achieving titles isn't really a concern for either class.
For those complaing about how boring PvE monking is, and how much of a pain running with heros and hench is....all I have to say is: huh? I've taken both my monk through all four games and I don't have any of the issues being complained about. My heros/hench attack fine, and reliably, even when I don't wand or call a target (which I don't generally). I don't generally get bored either. Perhaps my play style is different?
Anyway, I'd just say keep switching between your ele and your monk as you feel like playing them. Both are good for farming, and either can easily get into any group depending on your build versatility. Just work on titles as you feel like it.
For those complaing about how boring PvE monking is, and how much of a pain running with heros and hench is....all I have to say is: huh? I've taken both my monk through all four games and I don't have any of the issues being complained about. My heros/hench attack fine, and reliably, even when I don't wand or call a target (which I don't generally). I don't generally get bored either. Perhaps my play style is different?
Anyway, I'd just say keep switching between your ele and your monk as you feel like playing them. Both are good for farming, and either can easily get into any group depending on your build versatility. Just work on titles as you feel like it.
Olim Chill
It's really about your playing style / preferences, as mentioned above. Both approaches are quite effective, obviously.