Look at the sales forum and you can see many people atempting to buy exspensive weapons, with perfect mods, often with a 15^50 inscription. Spending a lot of money just to get the weapon that they feel will do the most damage, and look the best doing it. Then what happens?
Well, hopefully they customize it. We are all aware that once you customize a weapon, it loses it's resale value, and no one else can use it. But look at what customizing your weapon does. 20% bonus. You spend 100k + ectos on a "perfect" "tyrian" storm bow, while hell, you could pick up a max damage white stormbow, cutomize it, and wow, the same skin and more damage 100% of the time!
I'm not saying you shouldn't buy weapons like this, I'm addicted to it myself, but for the love of god, if you are buying a martial weapon as your chief damage output (That means all non-caster melee weapons and projectile weapons) customize it! If you are worried you'll want to sell it later, or it might hurt you too much in the long run.. don't buy it. Be smart and buy a weapon you can afford comfortably and get the most out of it. It amazes me how few people customize their weapons.
I have similar feelings on the importance of r8-9 when you are struggling financially, but that's a bit more complicated.
Anyways, post your thoughts/debates/experiences
Weapons: A Call to Customization.
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Bekkr
I couldn't agree more. Any character that uses a martial weapon as their main source of DPS (W, R, A, P, D) that isn't using a customized weapon is intentionally making the game harder than it needs to be. The price difference between 14^50 and 15^50 is massive, and rightly so I guess, as everyone wants a "perfect" weapon, but the mind boggles at someone who would spend many thousands (or more) in gold to get an extra 1% damage, and not a paltry 10g for an extra 20%!
The one and only time I've even come close to regretting customizing a weapon is on my ranger on my 2nd account. In recent months, I've been making new characters on my primary account to sort of replace the 2nd account so that I'll eventually only have the one with all professions. The aforementioned ranger, sadly, has a customized Drago's Flatbow though, but even still, I don't regret doing it. While I played that ranger, he was 20% more effective.
Just make sure when you buy a weapon to actually use, that you choose wisely.
The one and only time I've even come close to regretting customizing a weapon is on my ranger on my 2nd account. In recent months, I've been making new characters on my primary account to sort of replace the 2nd account so that I'll eventually only have the one with all professions. The aforementioned ranger, sadly, has a customized Drago's Flatbow though, but even still, I don't regret doing it. While I played that ranger, he was 20% more effective.
Just make sure when you buy a weapon to actually use, that you choose wisely.
xReLx
/agree completely
Hailo
I agree in some ways and in other ways I hold my own opinions. I have many, many weapons that I use. On my ranger alone I have about 20 different bows of all different types many of the perfects and req8-9. None of them are customized simply because many times I will end up selling these items, even though a few I plan never to sell a few of them. I just simply don't like the fact that if you have such an expensive thing, you should render it's value worthless. Besides having enough skills and ability to play can easily overcome a 20% damage value when playing in PvE.
cellardweller
There's no excuse for using an uncustomised martial weapon.
I Will Heal You Ally
I wish the +20% was only customized not the whole weapon... or at least make the cuztomization account-wide
sir phill
i customize about everything i got stormbow zodiac bow choas axes gothic duel axes gold is not that hard to get anymore so dont worry about buying some thing high dollar to use most things are well under 100k now days anyways
Terraban
Yeah...people with all of their fancy Tormented Scythes who think they are godly, but my customized collector version actually does more damage.
Crom The Pale
My rule of thumb is to customize Green items(that I will use for certain more than once) or perfectly modded items that I know for a fact I will never sell. All else is fair game for resale.
LifeInfusion
because I'm going to customize weapons on my monk... (sarcasm for those without their detectors on) it's only feasible on a PLAYER character.
the only thing customization and the 15>50 innate mod affects is the base damage, which is negligible in Hard mode (yay for hitting 1-7 damage on lvl 28 mobs).
the only thing customization and the 15>50 innate mod affects is the base damage, which is negligible in Hard mode (yay for hitting 1-7 damage on lvl 28 mobs).
Pro-Monk
Um, u play ur way I'll play mine........and that's all I have to say about that.
Zeek Aran
I have a sin and a ranger. Both use bows a lot of the time. What shall I do? Get doubles? I've beat all the missions on NM, 70% on HM, vanqd many places, done many dungeons, all on a warrior with an uncustomized weapon and I work just fine thank you. I'm not PvPing with you, let me do what I want. I have *counts* 20 gold swords/axes on this warrior, and every once in a while I get one with a smaller req of the same skin, or an inherent 15^50 instead of inscribable, and replace it. Some I take screenshot art with on my warrior even though it's a caster sword for my 55. If the customization was account wide, I wouldn't have a problem, but since I only use four main weapons 95% of the time, I'll leave the non-BMPs uncustomized.
What's with the HoM customization? D: Discuss THAT.
What's with the HoM customization? D: Discuss THAT.
MirkoTeran
Well, I for one customize every item I (playing monk) use, and all the items I put on heroes. And if there was a way to customize offhands/shields I would customize them also.
Zeek Aran
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Well, I for one customize every item I (playing monk) use, and all the items I put on heroes. And if there was a way to customize offhands/shields I would customize them also.
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Mr. G
there really needs to be a reason for casters to customise...then again casters dont really suffer the "customise and cant resell" problem...most caster stuff doesnt sell anyway....
Zeek Aran
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there really needs to be a reason for casters to customise...then again casters dont really suffer the "customise and cant resell" problem...most caster stuff doesnt sell anyway....
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SPURLUXE
agree. there is no reason to use less damage weapons.
my suggestion about new effect of customization:
staves gain 5% HCT/HSR and 2 more energy
wands gain 5% HCT/HSR
focus items gain 2 more energy
shields gain 2 more armor
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Originally Posted by Mr. G
there really needs to be a reason for casters to customise...
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staves gain 5% HCT/HSR and 2 more energy
wands gain 5% HCT/HSR
focus items gain 2 more energy
shields gain 2 more armor
Selket
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Originally Posted by Bekkr
I couldn't agree more. Any character that uses a martial weapon as their main source of DPS (W, R, A, P, D) that isn't using a customized weapon is intentionally making the game harder than it needs to be. The price difference between 14^50 and 15^50 is massive, and rightly so I guess, as everyone wants a "perfect" weapon, but the mind boggles at someone who would spend many thousands (or more) in gold to get an extra 1% damage, and not a paltry 10g for an extra 20%!
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Zeek Aran
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Originally Posted by SPURLUXE
agree. there is no reason to use less damage weapons.
my suggestion about new effect of customization: staves gain 5% HCT/HSR and 2 more energy wands gain 5% HCT/HSR focus items gain 2 more energy shields gain 2 more armor |
Bekkr
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Due to rounding, there's no difference between 14 and 15% except on hammer and scythe.
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Sure, you can't sell it later, but really, if you want to replace it at some stage, it's not like gold is hard to come by in this game.
Just my 2g, anyway.
IlikeGW
I disagree. If I have a high end item, I'm not going to strip 100% of its value by customizing it. I'll just use it where melee DPS isn't that important (most places lol) and do something else with my build like tank. If I want melee damage, sure I can take out a different weapon, there's no need to wreck a high end item really.
Terraban
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Originally Posted by Bekkr
Just my 2g, anyway.
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Bekkr
But it wouldn't be inferior if you customized it, now would it? 
Terraban
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Originally Posted by Bekkr
But it wouldn't be inferior if you customized it, now would it?
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Oofus
3 extra damage is a negligible price to pay when you consider the following:
- Maybe I want to use the weapons on more than 1 character
- Maybe I'll want to sell the item later
- Maybe I'll want to give the item away to a friend later
- PvE is a no-brainer without 3 extra dmg and not everyone plays PvP
- Is there a point to this thread other than trolling?
Savio
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
there's no need to wreck a high end item really.
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Originally Posted by Terraban
Most people don't
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You can't see me
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Originally Posted by Oofus
3 extra damage is a negligible price to pay when you consider the following:
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genofreek
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
I disagree. If I have a high end item, I'm not going to strip 100% of its value by customizing it. I'll just use it where melee DPS isn't that important (most places lol) and do something else with my build like tank. If I want melee damage, sure I can take out a different weapon, there's no need to wreck a high end item really.
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If someone's willing to pay 100k+250e for leet skinz, let them have it.
Zeek Aran
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The people who don't customize aren't the kind of people who would read this thread and take its advice. So ultimately this thread accomplishes nothing.
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Scary Raebbit
I'm going to use my 13-20 FDS because hey, it's only a few damage less.
arcanemacabre
I customize every weapon I get that I want to keep. Don't see any reason not to. I mean, if I don't plan on ever getting rid of it, why wouldn't I?
Nittle Grasper
I customize all my weapons on my sin for this purpose I mean, I see a war with tormented sword and I ask if he customized it, but the obvious answer is no :/
Pleikki
/disagree ..
Nah i dont like customize most of stuff cause i sometimes like change and doesnt like some skin so i get another and if old is customized i gotta merch items for what i've worked hard. But i customize if i got someting i rly want to keep.
Nah i dont like customize most of stuff cause i sometimes like change and doesnt like some skin so i get another and if old is customized i gotta merch items for what i've worked hard. But i customize if i got someting i rly want to keep.
pOmrAkkUn
I always customize everything I'm going to use in PvP.
but something like Ursan build with fancy weapons in PvE I will leave those weapons uncustomize :P
for me
PvP = every single damage count and add the pressure.
PvE = who the hell cares about melee damage do tank job block all and let's nukers kill those mobs :P
but something like Ursan build with fancy weapons in PvE I will leave those weapons uncustomize :P
for me
PvP = every single damage count and add the pressure.
PvE = who the hell cares about melee damage do tank job block all and let's nukers kill those mobs :P
6am3 Fana71c
Let's face it, 99% of the time, people don't customize weapons because they plan to resell them. And let's face it, 99% of the time when people buy really expenssive stuff, they do that so they feel important, not because they really like the skin. So if you really want to be a "big man", customize it. Allmost anyone can afford expenssive stuff nowdays. But not many can afford to customize them (same would go for minipets, but I don't give a shit about them).
arcanemacabre
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And let's face it, 99% of the time when people buy really expenssive stuff, they do that so they feel important, not because they really like the skin.
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EinherjarMx
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I'm going to use my 13-20 FDS because hey, it's only a few damage less.
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azizul1975
uh..what's all this about ? if u want a customised weapon, get the BMP ones (if u have BMP of course). nice skin. no cost. just add the mods. salvage the mods when not needed. end of story.
Cathode_Reborn
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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
I'm not PvPing with you, let me do what I want.
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Using an uncustomized martial weapon in PvP is really bad, whether it be daggers or scythes.
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Originally Posted by Oofus
3 extra damage is a negligible price to pay when you consider
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For those that don't know, the 20% damage on a customized is comparable to Sundering....except that it triggers on every hit and doesn't actually take up a mod. I never use uncustomized weapons....I always want maximum damage. In pve, there may be a few areas where it does less damage because of high armor, but it's still free damage. If you're not using a customized weapon, get some collector item. One of the many reasons not to pug: Players more interested in money/looking good, rather than actually playing good.
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PvE = who the hell cares about melee damage do tank job block all and let's nukers kill those mobs :P
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Zeek Aran
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I wouldn't wanna pvp with you either.....at least not on my team
For those that don't know, the 20% damage on a customized is comparable to Sundering....except that it triggers on every hit and doesn't actually take up a mod. I never use uncustomized weapons....I always want maximum damage. In pve, there may be a few areas where it does less damage because of high armor, but it's still free damage. If you're not using a customized weapon, get some collector item. One of the many reasons not to pug: Players more interested in money/looking good, rather than actually playing good. |