how are things valued ?

h9dlb

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Leeds England

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can someone please explain what makes some items very valuable and others not ?

I see some things selling for 100k and their skins are just plain ugly. I also dont understand why req increases value on some items where req has no relevance (eg swords - why should a sword with a req of 7 be worth a lot of money when to use a sword properly you need +14 swordsmanship)

I ahve lots of gold stuff in the vault many with max stats and I dont have a clue what is worthless and what is not.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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mainly it depends on the rarity of the drop.... Req 7 max items drop way less frequently than a req 9-13 item. Same with skins...just because a skin is ugly doesn't mean it won't sell...it depends on how rare the item is...heck it doesn't even have to look different just be called different...take a look at the prices on the swamp club thingy!

Syntonic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Rarity/scarcity mostly.

great sir s

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The depths of Africa

[LotU]

N/Me

the rareness of the skin, its current level of demand in the market, and of course its stats

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

supply and demand for the most part, others just seem to think that because they have something with a low requirement it should be worth something. For the most part I wouldnt worry about it, but if you want to find out about the gold junk in your storage visit the price check forum.

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

And regarding low requirement: If you have a req 7 weapon, you can at least get the "max damage" (15-22 for sword, etc...), and have PLENTY of points for other skills from other skill lines. So, 7 points in sword instead of, say, 10, frees up 30+ points to put into tactics, strength, your 2nd prof, etc...
So instead of 9 sword, 9 strength, 9 tact., you could run 7 sword, 11 strength, 9 tact...and still have points left over for 2nd prof.

This is why req 9 is relatively desireable: the "market" has determined that this is low enough to be desireable, and high enough that some req 9s are inexpensive. Req 9 will save you, again, over 30 points, over req 10 or 11, to use as you see fit in your build.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by englitdaudelin
And regarding low requirement: If you have a req 7 weapon, you can at least get the "max damage" (15-22 for sword, etc...), and have PLENTY of points for other skills from other skill lines. So, 7 points in sword instead of, say, 10, frees up 30+ points to put into tactics, strength, your 2nd prof, etc...
So instead of 9 sword, 9 strength, 9 tact., you could run 7 sword, 11 strength, 9 tact...and still have points left over for 2nd prof.

This is why req 9 is relatively desireable: the "market" has determined that this is low enough to be desireable, and high enough that some req 9s are inexpensive. Req 9 will save you, again, over 30 points, over req 10 or 11, to use as you see fit in your build.
People don't buy req.7 swords so they can pump more points in to Healing Prayers for better Mending. A level 20 Warrior should always have 12+ in weapon mastery unless it's an obscure farming build.

If someone manages to conjure up the gold to buy a req.7 sword to then use 7 Swordsmanship, there's a real discrepancy in his knowledge about the game.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
People don't buy req.7 swords so they can pump more points in to Healing Prayers for better Mending. A level 20 Warrior should always have 12+ in weapon mastery unless it's an obscure farming build.

If someone manages to conjure up the gold to buy a req.7 sword to then use 7 Swordsmanship, there's a real discrepancy in his knowledge about the game.
/superagree

buying q7's is just plain silly imo

(this might not be relevant coming from me, i'm frugal and only use endgame greens on every character)

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
/superagree

buying q7's is just plain silly imo

(this might not be relevant coming from me, i'm frugal and only use endgame greens on every character)
When you get alot of money, there is nothing usful as such to spend it on, fow=1.5K armor req 7= endgame green. So you gotta spend it on somthing .

EmptySkull

EmptySkull

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

KaoS League

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
People don't buy req.7 swords so they can pump more points in to Healing Prayers for better Mending. A level 20 Warrior should always have 12+ in weapon mastery unless it's an obscure farming build.

If someone manages to conjure up the gold to buy a req.7 sword to then use 7 Swordsmanship, there's a real discrepancy in his knowledge about the game.
Yeah I would have to agree. You wouldn't want to run only a seven in whatever attribute because that also effects your skill potency too. Besides the closer you are to 12 the better chance to score a critical hit. I think the real reason R:7 is more expensive is because of that modifier makes it even more rare. A R:7 zodiac axe is even more rare than a R:9.

But yeah like everyone said. Rarity is the reason why things are so expensive. The only reason. I think what you should aim for is a weapon in the R:9-11 range. 11 to save the most money. That way you can set you attribute to 12 gain the most benefit from critical hit and your weapon not be reduced to a match stick if hit by weakness.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Req 7 primary weapons are for the richest and luckiest in GW and they don't mean much at all. There's a point when people have farmed themselves half way to death and they just want something to show for it. It's either that or they bought plat on eBay. Someone holding on to a rare 7 should sell that thing right away! Cash in on it!

A req 7 shield, now that's something truly valuable!

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Game items are like antiques. They are worth what someone is willing to pay.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty

A req 7 shield, now that's something truly valuable!
That I forgot. Req.7 shields have a practical reason for their value outside of pure vanity.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by h9dlb
I have lots of gold stuff in the vault many with max stats and I don't have a clue what is worthless and what is not.
Try checking them out in the Ventari's Corner section of these forums. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6