Why are ectos so cheap and will thy go up again

niek2004

niek2004

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just wondering why ectos are so bloody cheap atm, why they dont drop much in UW anymore and if the prices will go up again.

Coridan

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how much they running right now? still buy for 5.5k? if so it has been that way for a long while now.

Doubt that ectos will ever again achieve the 10k range

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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There is absolutely no reasons why ectos will rise in price. If anything, over time, they should fall in price as more and more people exit the game and demand goes down.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

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Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

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Unless some new use is added for them they will not rise again.

Jhadur

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You only think the current price is too cheap because you were used to ecto's being 10k+. Whereas if you viewed 10k+ as way too much, the current price is just about right.

Your view will probably depend on how much money you have, or how often you farm UW...

niek2004

niek2004

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i farm a lot of uw, i remembered ectos 13k and me getting lots of them, now they never seem to drop for me [1 each 2 runs] + prices went down. maybe becouse of bots? as i see a lot of MO/W guys with those funny names like "Cat Strong Girl"

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

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Quote:
Originally Posted by niek2004
i farm a lot of uw, i remembered ectos 13k and me getting lots of them, now they never seem to drop for me [1 each 2 runs] + prices went down. maybe becouse of bots? as i see a lot of MO/W guys with those funny names like "Cat Strong Girl" bots mostly have got names like:
adfasdasdf asdfasdfasd
asdfdashgg ghgf
asasd yutyuyu
iutitutu errt

well you get the point ..

Wyat Hawke

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While we are at it, is it even worth to farm UW anymore? You have to pay 1k to get in, and you're probably just getting an ecto every fourth run or so. Isn't with the current point just better to farm something else?

dicksbain

dicksbain

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyat Hawke
While we are at it, is it even worth to farm UW anymore? You have to pay 1k to get in, and you're probably just getting an ecto every fourth run or so. Isn't with the current point just better to farm something else? I agree it doesn't seem worth it at times. I'll have a bunch of 0 ecto runs. Of course, this last weekend I had a 4 ecto run...and my SS counterpart got nothing (I gave him one at the end cuz I felt bad). As with all farming, I guess it's just luck sometimes.

royal mercenary

royal mercenary

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i guess the droprate of ectos went down, so a small chance they raise a 500gold max

Memphis Rain

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Join Date: Apr 2007

Solo/team smite runs has been LOW on the list for a while, seems more and more people are doing solo E/A tomb runs now, just killing the dryders/riders at the beginning of area 1 for ectos.

Tempast

Tempast

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imo i blame the bots >_< theres just so many of them...

Adam144

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Yup, UW runs don't seem worth the effort anymore, unless you do Full Runs. IMO they are much more profitable than solo runs.

a) you don't have to pay entry
b) you're guaranteed at least 1 ecto if you finish
c) if you're good at terra tanking, you can solo the bone pits to speed your party's run - I get 2-3 ectos every time I do that.

cerb

cerb

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Ectos probably wont go back up again, we all thought they would when they first dropped below 10k but it never happened. As for the drop rates, if you only do first room + smites then yes I agree you probably won't get much, whereas if you do quests your drop rates might be much better. I always do at least Ice King every run, sometimes Unwanted Guests/Escort of Souls. Doing Ice King adds maybe 5 minutes to your run and has very good drops.

In fact, I don't remember the last time I did not get at least one ecto during a run. Usually it ranges between 1-4.

Qwertyfied

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Ecto's will only go up if ecto drop rate is reduced (won't happen), or some farming builds are nerfed. Or possibly if a new use of ecto's comes into play, but again i don't see that happening.

RLBadKarma

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Noticed last night at the traders, ecto's selling for 6k!!

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

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Oh, they're at 6 right now too, not seen them that high in ages

jeutie

jeutie

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I was trading in ruby's...

ecto was worth 5.5 @ merch, and well ruby's too

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

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I was doing smite runs with the E/Me everyday to get my chaos gloves and got 70 ectos in 1 week .. so I guess some of you are just unlucky?

netniwk

netniwk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Interception
I was doing smite runs with the E/Me everyday to get my chaos gloves and got 70 ectos in 1 week .. so I guess some of you are just unlucky? or they don't farm as much as you?
Although I agree that the droprate of ecto's hasn't dropped.

Horseman Of War

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhadur
A full suit of chaos armour /vote 'craft' Eternal reskin elite armor sets c/o ectos and stuff

placebo overdose

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i have to disagree a bit
people will always want fow but as said more people are going to leave which you would think makes it drop more but also people leaving will be farmers so why wouldn't they stay relatively static

A Leprechaun

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Yeah the ecto price is low, but when, like I did a couple of weeks ago, you get 4 in one solo smite run it doesnt matter so much ^^.
I usually get 1 a run, which is fine for me.

~A Leprechaun~

Orange Milk

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Last I checked, about 9:30pm EST last night ecto were up to 6k

Thats about 500g above the NASDAQ average over the past several months. thats and extra 125k on a stack of ecto.

But if you have a stack of ecto why would you care about 125k.

Burning Blade

Burning Blade

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Syag

UW smite run is out of my interest now because for whatever reason, I don't get any ecto after 5 to 8 runs!

Adam144

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Blade
UW smite run is out of my interest now because for whatever reason, I don't get any ecto after 5 to 8 runs! Same, I got 6 ectos in half an hour from soloing Tombs.. which is 6x more than I get in UW in the same amount of time.

niek2004

niek2004

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Has anyone seen the E/ME bots in Shing Jea ID1?
i spot them too in ToA, and they dont have names like"dslkfjsdoiufs;l sjdlf"
they have names with real words but they just dont make sence, also they have all the same armor...WTB mass ban

Solus Spartan

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Obiviously no-one knows how an economy works.

Lockpicks & normal loot nerfs dropped ecto prices, which is basically the current value of money.

Lockpicks re-placed keys, and alot more people buy them, get junk golds and re-sell to and may get around 15% of the gold back they paid for the lockpick. That means if you buy a lockpick for 1.5k, sell the gold/purple for 150-300 gold, the 1.2k disappears, thus reducing the prices of everything, as gold is in short supply. Ecto is not, but ecto is worth gold, and if there isn't much gold, ecto's prices drop. This never occured pre-loot nerf as you could sell your whites and gain cash loot alot, but you cannot now, so there is alot less gold, which in turn reduces the prices of ecto.

Ecto's prices won't go up, as there price is determined by the levels of gold. No gold, no inflation, no rise in price. Ecto's supply rate is huge, even if a new ecto-required item or armor set was released, the supply of ecto would easily out-weigh the demand of ecto. Therefore the prices will actually drop.

In short, ecto prices will never rise unless the gold sinks are removed, and more gold is channeled into the economy.

niek2004

niek2004

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Spartan
Obiviously no-one knows how an economy works.

ecto prices will never rise unless the gold sinks are removed, and more gold is channeled into the economy. i still dont know why anet put the loot scaling there in the first place...

Solus Spartan

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To drop prices, and to discourage farming. Anet's way of saying "we don't give a [email protected] about Pve and WE control the economy". All Mmorpg hosts do it.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

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I don't think you are right Spartan

Ecto is holding steady at 6k tha paste couple days, thats UP

There is an increase in demand for ecto brought on by the Hall of Monuments as well as the "100k+ecto" sales technique for rares

People want to put that High end FoW armor in there. People who used to farm and merch/sell/trade ecto havee begun to hord to purchase armor. ectos are NOT getting back into the hands of the Rare material trader due to hording/crafted into armor.

The prices at the Trader go up when there is a purchasing spike (reasons noted above) or the Traders supply gets low, which is due to some of the hardcore/avid ecto farmers moving on to GWEN areas since its release farming for other items and contributing to the lack of ecto back into the Trader, who stock is just now beging to hit low numbers warenting a price increase.

Thats my take on the ecto situation in the market, for the latest Hog report we now take you live to Les Nessman at WKRP in Cincinati.

niek2004

niek2004

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gogo 10.000 E/ME bots who farm UW!

RLBadKarma

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Thats my take on the ecto situation in the market, for the latest Hog report we now take you live to Les Nessman at WKRP in Cincinati. Now that brings back some memories!!!!!! Loved that show. Loni=mmmmmm

Xylia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by niek2004
i still dont know why anet put the loot scaling there in the first place...
Rare drops such as ectos are not affected by loot scaling. See [wiki]Loot[/wiki] for a list of exempt drops.

Quote: Originally Posted by Solus Spartan
To drop prices, and to discourage farming. Anet's way of saying "we don't give a [email protected] about Pve and WE control the economy". All Mmorpg hosts do it. Dropping prices actually helps the community overall - if prices were allowed to inflate unchecked, then only the most hardcore players would be able to afford anything. This happens in real life, as well...the federal reserve will adjust interest rates to help curb inflation. ANet is simply being a benevolent leader.
Also they removed some of the anti-farming AI from the enemies (especially in normal mode), making farming easier for the casual player. See
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gaile...Feb-April_2007 for more info.

Silly Warrior

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Its impossible to predict the future of the pricing of Ectos. They may go up in the future, but chances are will lower as the game loses people because of lack of updates and interest.


And this isn't farming. Consider the question answered.

Closed.