Least popular / played class in GW
Hektor87
I was curious what class in GW is considered the least played or least popular class in the game. Judging from the PvE class specific forums it would look like the Paragon followed by the Ritualist.
Racthoh
Which of course is funny since Paragon is the best PvE class and Ritualist have Splinter Weapon, arguably the best AoE skill in the game.
Redfeather1975
Well, gwonline's class forums jump all over the place.
Sometimes the mesmer class forum has the most people viewing it and posting in it.
Sometimes the mesmer class forum has the most people viewing it and posting in it.
Old Man Of Ascalon
As far as the WHOLE game, probably Paragon, without a doubt. For PvE, probably assassin. You don't see many running around other than to farm greens or do FFF runs.
Alexandra-Sweet
Then there's always the Mesmer...
Agent Mold3r
PvE I would have to say mesmer
Like Racthoh said.....ritualists and paragons are two of the best support classes for a party.....
Like Racthoh said.....ritualists and paragons are two of the best support classes for a party.....
Redfeather1975
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Then there's always the Mesmer...
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Cuz they are all rarely seen and mysterious.
Captain Robo
For PvP, each class brings something desireable, but necromancers are clearly at the low end of the spectrum.
For PvE, mesmers and sins.
For PvE, mesmers and sins.
Yanman.be
The sin forum is often an open warzone though.
cthulhu reborn
I am a PvE player and my fave classes are: Para and Rit...go figure.
Edit: as a sidenote, my fave used to be Necro until SR was changed from too powerful to stupid.
Edit: as a sidenote, my fave used to be Necro until SR was changed from too powerful to stupid.
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Old Man Of Ascalon
As far as the WHOLE game, probably Paragon, without a doubt.
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Diddy bow
Mesmer for pve, easier to just take an ele and nuke them.
For pvp i dunno, all classes get their metas and occisanal imba builds :P.
... Mesmer if i was to say one though, never really seen them to common at any point but they always pop up.
For pvp i dunno, all classes get their metas and occisanal imba builds :P.
... Mesmer if i was to say one though, never really seen them to common at any point but they always pop up.
Two April Mornings
Mesmer. I regret sticking to one for PVE.
cosyfiep
sin, paragon and mesmer are the least desired.
though rits dont get much love either---which is strange since they can do healing and damage.... (I have 2 of them, 3 mesmers, a paragon that I am beginning to like again (died on her survivor attempt) and one sin which I am still trying to master).
though rits dont get much love either---which is strange since they can do healing and damage.... (I have 2 of them, 3 mesmers, a paragon that I am beginning to like again (died on her survivor attempt) and one sin which I am still trying to master).
Longasc
http://www.gwchars.de.vu/
The order is:
1. Monk
2. Warrior
3. Elementalist
4. Ranger
5. Necro
6. Dervish
7. Assassin
8. Ritualist
9. Mesmer
10. Paragon
The Dervish seems to be very popular among German players.
That Assassins/Ritualists/Dervish/Paragon are a bit less played, maybe for these reasons:
1. Expansion Chars
Everyone can create one of the core classes. For one of the other 4, you need the specific chapter
2. Char slots
Not everyone is buying char slots, and people usually created one of the Core classes first.
3. Farming
Everyone seems to have a monk for that.
This list does not list "primary" chars, it just counts which chars people registered on this page. It does not mean that monks are the most played class, but at least many consider them worth a slot.
The state of Mesmers after so many years is IMO by far worse than that of the latest profession, Paragon. Still a pity, I think their style is underrated. I blame it on the gay male dance.
The order is:
1. Monk
2. Warrior
3. Elementalist
4. Ranger
5. Necro
6. Dervish
7. Assassin
8. Ritualist
9. Mesmer
10. Paragon
The Dervish seems to be very popular among German players.
That Assassins/Ritualists/Dervish/Paragon are a bit less played, maybe for these reasons:
1. Expansion Chars
Everyone can create one of the core classes. For one of the other 4, you need the specific chapter
2. Char slots
Not everyone is buying char slots, and people usually created one of the Core classes first.
3. Farming
Everyone seems to have a monk for that.
This list does not list "primary" chars, it just counts which chars people registered on this page. It does not mean that monks are the most played class, but at least many consider them worth a slot.
The state of Mesmers after so many years is IMO by far worse than that of the latest profession, Paragon. Still a pity, I think their style is underrated. I blame it on the gay male dance.
~ Dan ~
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Observe GvG pls
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Least played in PvE, depends. In nightfall there are plenty of Dervs/Paras. In factions and proph, not so. The same applies to rits/sins - lots in factions (well ok, not "lots"), but hardly any elsewhere.
But i'd have to say mesmer, as there just isn't many no matter what campaign it is.
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Specially male. When I see a male mesmer I have to run over and talk to them.
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that type is very hard to come by
Vinraith
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Which of course is funny since Paragon is the best PvE class
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Dkraftwerk
The two I've noticed least of are Paragons and Mesmers. Male Mesmers in particular, I find, are even harder to come by. I always stop short when I see one and it's funny...because they do the same to me. We just stare at each other in awe, kind of funny really.
Pyro maniac
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There's usually only one in a team - if the guild runs one at all.
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TheRaven
For me, I hate taking Assassins in my pugs. It's not that assassins are a bad class. If you find a good one they can really help the team and in PvP they are wonderful.
But unfortunately most assassins are created and played by 10-12 year old boys that think assassin ninjas are the Kewlest awesomest rockin pwnage profession eva!!!! and they just never learned how to play. They think they can run into a mob, flash their daggers and the mob should instantly die. If the mob doesn't die then it's because that RED ENGINE GORED monk moron wasn't doing his job.
Yeah, I try to avoid assassins at all costs unless I know the player behind the sin.
But unfortunately most assassins are created and played by 10-12 year old boys that think assassin ninjas are the Kewlest awesomest rockin pwnage profession eva!!!! and they just never learned how to play. They think they can run into a mob, flash their daggers and the mob should instantly die. If the mob doesn't die then it's because that RED ENGINE GORED monk moron wasn't doing his job.
Yeah, I try to avoid assassins at all costs unless I know the player behind the sin.
Edge Martinez
For PvE my sin is one of my favorite toons. BUT... I run him as a crit barrager, and use his sin skills for survivability. My overall favorite PvE class to play is probably ranger or monk.
My least favorite? Well... I hate my Necro, but I hated my mesmer more, so I deleted him to get a PvP slot. The mesmer would have been cool, would have been good,... hell, he finished Prophecies and Factions, but I did it alone. Pretty much had to when I typed Mesmer LFG.
My least favorite? Well... I hate my Necro, but I hated my mesmer more, so I deleted him to get a PvP slot. The mesmer would have been cool, would have been good,... hell, he finished Prophecies and Factions, but I did it alone. Pretty much had to when I typed Mesmer LFG.
Aerian_Skybane
A dervish, paragon, and assasin will all be picked before a Mesmer, which is really sad because my GF plays one to match my warrior, and our guild has a blast playing with a mesmer. They really are underrated, not only that but they are pretty fun to play with too. Ah well, not everyone can think outside the box.
Assasins are everywhere though, they always try to join my parties. I really can't trust them though, most of them are like what has been said above, really stupid players. I only accept assasins of people I know. Then they rock.
Assasins are everywhere though, they always try to join my parties. I really can't trust them though, most of them are like what has been said above, really stupid players. I only accept assasins of people I know. Then they rock.
Numa Pompilius
I love playing mesmer, but there's really no denying they're gimped in pve. With their expensive and looong recharge skills they're great for annoying one or two enemies, but how often do you need to do that in PvE?
In PvE they're basically a weak necromancer without soul reaping or AoE spells.
My present favorite class are necros. I don't see why people bitch about the soul reaping nerf, it's hardly noticeable.
So paragons are good, you say? I tried one out briefly, but it just felt weak to me.
In PvE they're basically a weak necromancer without soul reaping or AoE spells.
My present favorite class are necros. I don't see why people bitch about the soul reaping nerf, it's hardly noticeable.
So paragons are good, you say? I tried one out briefly, but it just felt weak to me.
quickmonty
For PvE ..... Mesmer, 'cause the n00bs don't know how deadly they can be.
Tender Wolf
Hmm...well I agree that I don't see many sins running around in PVE. Now in PVP they're everywhere, and they're always the ones that kill me. Grr...lol Anyway, as for PVP, you don't see that many monks or rits, or at least I don't. The rest are all fair game to me.
I can pretty much play any profession but the one I can't get into is the assassin. I don't know why, I guess I just don't like how they look. To me they're all kind of ugly. lol And as a monk, I only do smiting because I don't like healing others, plus I'm really bad at it.
I can pretty much play any profession but the one I can't get into is the assassin. I don't know why, I guess I just don't like how they look. To me they're all kind of ugly. lol And as a monk, I only do smiting because I don't like healing others, plus I'm really bad at it.
Thorondor Port
To me its crazy to say that there is a least used class in pvp.
Obviously being there is a least used class, but its all depentant on the build..
Say your running:
w/e
w/e
n/e
e/rt
e/p
mo/me
mo/me
mo/me
Now your a pro team and dont lose and play every match on the wall to halls you encounter:
Iway,Sway,IVSpike,Smiteball,Legoway, 2monk backline balances with mesmer, 3 monk backline balances with dervishes or assassins, Rangerspike, eleball, that signet spike with the assasins, eoe bomb with all that SH and tele-ele's with KD
Chances are you'll see every class on the way to halls.
If any class is the least played in pvp I would blame the build you are playing.
That being said....
Monks and elementalists are the most common in my opinion (almost every team has one)
Obviously being there is a least used class, but its all depentant on the build..
Say your running:
w/e
w/e
n/e
e/rt
e/p
mo/me
mo/me
mo/me
Now your a pro team and dont lose and play every match on the wall to halls you encounter:
Iway,Sway,IVSpike,Smiteball,Legoway, 2monk backline balances with mesmer, 3 monk backline balances with dervishes or assassins, Rangerspike, eleball, that signet spike with the assasins, eoe bomb with all that SH and tele-ele's with KD
Chances are you'll see every class on the way to halls.
If any class is the least played in pvp I would blame the build you are playing.
That being said....
Monks and elementalists are the most common in my opinion (almost every team has one)
Aera Lure
Least popular? Generally speaking, in terms of being welcome in parties etc, probably the assassin. Least played? I'll say mesmer, as I do see enough Paragons and Ritualists around.
Zahr Dalsk
I'd say mesmer as the least often played.
Truth be told every now and then I make a mesmer and eventually delete it because I lack the patience to get them to the point where they have skills that make them effective. This is actually a commonly occurring problem for me, since some classes, like Ritualist, are not fun until one has reached a certain point (for Ritualist, I feel the fun started once I had capped Attuned was Songkai) however having gotten ritualist to that point I may do the same with a Mesmer. I might actually try Paragon and Dervish again in PvE as well (the starting areas are agonizingly dull in Nightfall, particularly the title/level grind and the lack of factions-speed leveling).
Also, Ritualists and Assassins seem pretty rare outside Factions.
Truth be told every now and then I make a mesmer and eventually delete it because I lack the patience to get them to the point where they have skills that make them effective. This is actually a commonly occurring problem for me, since some classes, like Ritualist, are not fun until one has reached a certain point (for Ritualist, I feel the fun started once I had capped Attuned was Songkai) however having gotten ritualist to that point I may do the same with a Mesmer. I might actually try Paragon and Dervish again in PvE as well (the starting areas are agonizingly dull in Nightfall, particularly the title/level grind and the lack of factions-speed leveling).
Also, Ritualists and Assassins seem pretty rare outside Factions.
Toutatis
I would say that the mesmer is probably the least played in PvE. The only time I have ever come across other mesmers in-game is at events (or on the extremely rare occasions when my guildies pull out and dust off theirs).
Although I think that's probably a good thing. Can you imagine the ego clashes if mesmers were always running into each other left, right and centre? The next major Guild War: started because one mesmer remarked that another mesmer's armor was "so last season"
Although I think that's probably a good thing. Can you imagine the ego clashes if mesmers were always running into each other left, right and centre? The next major Guild War: started because one mesmer remarked that another mesmer's armor was "so last season"
cthulhu reborn
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I love playing mesmer, but there's really no denying they're gimped in pve. With their expensive and looong recharge skills they're great for annoying one or two enemies, but how often do you need to do that in PvE?
In PvE they're basically a weak necromancer without soul reaping or AoE spells. My present favorite class are necros. I don't see why people bitch about the soul reaping nerf, it's hardly noticeable. So paragons are good, you say? I tried one out briefly, but it just felt weak to me. |
Without wanting to go too far in to the SR nerf but it's not the output of energy that was the concern but just that the mechanic of how it works is just lame. Some people feel that way and some don't. To me the whole mess around it turned me away from the necro as I just felt cheated. It was a big fight and it can result in a lingering bad taste. Again the average energy gain is fine. Anyways that's enough about that.
The least favourite classes tend to be the ones people have to think about when they put them together.
Sins tend to be suicidal because people don't think. Mesmer suck in PvE because people don't think...etc etc.
I can play any class fine in PvE but yes some take more thought than others. You cannot death's charge into a group of enemies out of your healers' range with your sin and expect to be effective unless you make a build that can sustain itself, at least for a short while. Most people don't get that and keep dying blaming the monks.
People will keep thinking mesmers suck because they don't see how effective they are in PvE especially in preventing a lot of damage. PvE has as a specific challenge that there is huge spike damage. Level 28+ creatures that can wipe entire parties in a couple of seconds. Trust me, damage prevention is important.
Go into the Gate of Pain mission with an interrupt mesmer and be glad of all those meteor showers that won't hit you and the melee demons that kill themselves on empathy. It really works.
But you cannot just blow all your energy at once, you have to time and weigh quickly what is and isn't important to disrupt. So yes it requires more thought and skill and thus is less popular.
cebalrai
Funny... My favorite AB character is a P/Rt. Motivation restoration and a little restoration from the Rit line. Flesh of my Flesh + Song of Restoration + Sig of Synergy = quick effective res that also heals the whole party.
Sir Seifus Halbred
It varies from mesmer to paragon, or sin to ritualist.
tehshadowninjar
Least played I would say....mesmer. Basically all they do is prevent most people from attacking. You take Me/N though, and you have a deadly build against ANY melee and almost as deadly against spell casters without hex removal or a monk.
Insidious Parasite = 30 average damage per attack. (Not skill casting)
Empathy = 35 average damage per attack. (Not skill casting)
Spiteful Spirit = 100 damage per any action that affects any player in any way.
Those 3 wipe out melee, plus, you have 60-130 damage skills that deal LOADS of damage agaisnt people using skills... IE eles, since 80% of their skills are 2s cast time all the way to 10s. Take dazed, and the ele is good as dead. But this requires ALOT of strategy and percision and skill. Most people think you can waste all your energy. Guess what? If you do, you're done for. There's something called res, and you only have 5 energy left! Heh.
Least popular... assassin. I would say this because of all the thought and skill needed to chain together the PERFECT skill bar. You can do any 3 combo easy, but it's much more effective if you have a 5 skill chain. This is very hard, because you want to find 5 skills with the lowest recharge, energy consumption, and activation. And there's only 1-3 skills in the entire Assassins's arsenal that can make 3 into 5 or 5 into 7. You also need self healing. (6) Mabye IAS/IMS (7) and a personal benefit skill of your own... IE Beguiling Daze (Shadow Step and Dazed on average for 6s) or mabye Aura of Displacement (Shadow Step in and dismiss to shadow step out to point of origin Aura of Displacement was cast) Which makes 8. Most kids... like some person up there said before, think assassins are somewhat like ninjas, they're like, so fast and stealthy, and like "ZOMFGZWTFBBQ, I GOTS A ASSASSIN, LOL, U BE DEAD BIG TIME!!!!11111111!!!shifteleventeen" And then blame the monk because YOU overextended. It takes all of 2 seconds to kill an assassin with 4 people with average builds attacking you.
Insidious Parasite = 30 average damage per attack. (Not skill casting)
Empathy = 35 average damage per attack. (Not skill casting)
Spiteful Spirit = 100 damage per any action that affects any player in any way.
Those 3 wipe out melee, plus, you have 60-130 damage skills that deal LOADS of damage agaisnt people using skills... IE eles, since 80% of their skills are 2s cast time all the way to 10s. Take dazed, and the ele is good as dead. But this requires ALOT of strategy and percision and skill. Most people think you can waste all your energy. Guess what? If you do, you're done for. There's something called res, and you only have 5 energy left! Heh.
Least popular... assassin. I would say this because of all the thought and skill needed to chain together the PERFECT skill bar. You can do any 3 combo easy, but it's much more effective if you have a 5 skill chain. This is very hard, because you want to find 5 skills with the lowest recharge, energy consumption, and activation. And there's only 1-3 skills in the entire Assassins's arsenal that can make 3 into 5 or 5 into 7. You also need self healing. (6) Mabye IAS/IMS (7) and a personal benefit skill of your own... IE Beguiling Daze (Shadow Step and Dazed on average for 6s) or mabye Aura of Displacement (Shadow Step in and dismiss to shadow step out to point of origin Aura of Displacement was cast) Which makes 8. Most kids... like some person up there said before, think assassins are somewhat like ninjas, they're like, so fast and stealthy, and like "ZOMFGZWTFBBQ, I GOTS A ASSASSIN, LOL, U BE DEAD BIG TIME!!!!11111111!!!shifteleventeen" And then blame the monk because YOU overextended. It takes all of 2 seconds to kill an assassin with 4 people with average builds attacking you.
Racthoh
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Least played I would say....mesmer. Basically all they do is prevent most people from attacking. You take Me/N though, and you have a deadly build against ANY melee and almost as deadly against spell casters without hex removal or a monk.
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Go into the Gate of Pain mission with an interrupt mesmer and be glad of all those meteor showers that won't hit you and the melee demons that kill themselves on empathy.
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
Well, it's between Paragons and Necros for that title, they're both fairly absurd.
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Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
But you cannot just blow all your energy at once, you have to time and weigh quickly what is and isn't important to disrupt. So yes it requires more thought and skill and thus is less popular.
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Also while high-level bosses would be logical targets for mesmers they have half duration casts, half recharge time, and half duration hexes, again making a mesmer less effective at damage mitigation than, say, ursan perma-knockdown.
To me it seems as if mesmer is a class without focus, a class which can't do much of anything better than other classes, not as a primary. Originally they appear to have been intended for degen, shutdown, interruption and energy denial, but all that original capability has been gradually nerfed and eclipsed by the capabilities of other classes (rangers interrupt better, monks remove hexes better, necros degen and remove enchants better...).
So... I like playing mesmer, it is a sweet feeling when you totally ruin a fire eles day by hitting him with a Powerblock, or drop Empathy on a dervish, but I've a hard time seeing what unique benefits mesmers bring to the table any more.
Great as a secondary profession thanks to the inspiration line (which should have been the class primary line) though.
Hott Bill
Most least played in PvE is hands down, mesmar. In PvP it is probably Dervish. I too enjoy using my assassin in PvP because they can shadow step in, kill, and get out.
Um Yeah
In Pve: I'd probably say paragons or mesmers. Paragon's always been boring as hell for me to play, and I don't see too many of them regularly. Most people don't play mesmer well in PvE and give up on it or something. Idk
Pvp: RA/TA: Para, probably followed by rit or mes.
Pvp: HA: I don't HA anymore, but if I had to take a guess, probably rit or nec.
Pvp: Gvg: Sins, necs, and dervs. Unless, of course, you're Japanese >_>
Pvp: RA/TA: Para, probably followed by rit or mes.
Pvp: HA: I don't HA anymore, but if I had to take a guess, probably rit or nec.
Pvp: Gvg: Sins, necs, and dervs. Unless, of course, you're Japanese >_>
Vinraith
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Big_Daddy
I'd say mesmers are the least played in PvE, but I must admit I have often wondered how a certain mission or quest might have come out if I had a good mesmer on my team.