I am halfway to Legendary Vanq, that is to say T9/54, C15/33, E34/34.
Hardest places so far, Garden of Seborhin and Hidden City of Ahdashim. Basically anything full of overpowered elementals in supersize mobs.
Most frustrating and most attempts - Joko's Domain. Only one that took me three attempts.
About builds; there really is no right or wrong guys! It's just preference. Whatever works for you, enjoy it. There's no gimmickry in any build except Ursanway.
People forget that the primary determining factor in a party build is what role/class are YOU playing. A H/H party led by a single Monk or Mesmer player is going to be way different in composition/build/tactics to one with a single human Warrior or Ranger. There really is no one-size-fits-all solution and if you're not customising your party make up to the area you're Vanquishing then you're either lucky, dying or lot or using lots of consumables.
For reference, typical H/H team I used for Elona Vanquisher:
1 Warrior with Earth Shaker (me)
1 Ranger (Jin) with BHA, Pet and Poisonous Bite
1 Monk (Dunkoro) with LoD and Aegis (for manual timing)
1 Necro MM (Olias) with Rotten Flesh (not in human areas) Fiends and Horrors
Mhenlo
Kihm
Herta
Cynn
I don't need any feedback on this thanks, it worked OK and now I'm doing Cantha/Tyria I am using other stuff due to the different choice of Henchmen.
Legendary Vanquishers
Torqual
Yang Whirlwind
Finished Elona with whoever from the guild wanted to come - that was hard in some areas (probably more so because of the some builds we had to make do with - 3-4 warriors sometimes ^)
Almost done with Prophecies and it's been a breeze!
Build:
my Ele (nuke + sear + djinn + Pain Inverter)
2 Warriors (Ursan)
3 Necro heroes (what people call Sab's build)
2 monks heroes (1 prot + 1 heal)
Without all but the MM/Jaged bones necro in the 6 man areas
In the early 4-man areas I used a flash air-spamming build. Those Grawl are not so tough when you can keep them blinded!
The combination of those 3 necro's really work,- that's all there is to it!
rotscale wasn't much of a problem for us - can't recall what build we used for that one, but it went pretty smoothly! Did that one from ToA with 8-man party!
Agree with above: Garden of Seborhin - sucks big time (actually failed that once - only time ever!)
Ruby Djinn's in numbers are to my mind the toughest opponent's in the game, especially if you bring hero's/henchies,- they tend to group together making it far to easy for the sear's to take them out.
Almost done with Prophecies and it's been a breeze!
Build:
my Ele (nuke + sear + djinn + Pain Inverter)
2 Warriors (Ursan)
3 Necro heroes (what people call Sab's build)
2 monks heroes (1 prot + 1 heal)
Without all but the MM/Jaged bones necro in the 6 man areas
In the early 4-man areas I used a flash air-spamming build. Those Grawl are not so tough when you can keep them blinded!
The combination of those 3 necro's really work,- that's all there is to it!
rotscale wasn't much of a problem for us - can't recall what build we used for that one, but it went pretty smoothly! Did that one from ToA with 8-man party!
Agree with above: Garden of Seborhin - sucks big time (actually failed that once - only time ever!)
Ruby Djinn's in numbers are to my mind the toughest opponent's in the game, especially if you bring hero's/henchies,- they tend to group together making it far to easy for the sear's to take them out.
X Ice Man X
I did Tyria and Cantha back in the days before EoTN, so there was no "easy" ways (Consumables, Vast amounts of PvE Skills to pick from) to vanquish the harder area's.
Rot Scale was by far the hardest to kill, Heroes would stupidly rush in and get them selves whiped out time and time again there. Huge amounts of Micro Management to stop them from rushing in, keeping them behind objects and casting for them so they didn't charge in after something.
Eastern Frontier was a pain, the Grawl just destroyed any casters in the team in seconds.
Most of the Kurick territory was slightly, with all the Hammer KD and the Splinter Weapon's.
Most of Elona was easy to do, nothing really stood out to me there as too difficult. Even the Sand Storm boss wasn't that difficult to do, Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support + BHA = FTW
Rot Scale was by far the hardest to kill, Heroes would stupidly rush in and get them selves whiped out time and time again there. Huge amounts of Micro Management to stop them from rushing in, keeping them behind objects and casting for them so they didn't charge in after something.
Eastern Frontier was a pain, the Grawl just destroyed any casters in the team in seconds.
Most of the Kurick territory was slightly, with all the Hammer KD and the Splinter Weapon's.
Most of Elona was easy to do, nothing really stood out to me there as too difficult. Even the Sand Storm boss wasn't that difficult to do, Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support + BHA = FTW
yarddog
i already vanquished, i used sab's necro build at the tail end of it, wasnt yet on the market when i started, but for the 4 man ascolon areas i used, shut down mesmer, monk,VwK tank(guildie) and i play ranger(BHA, rules HM). really no issues unless the pesky beasties broke aggro on our tank, but for the most part it went smoothly.
the hardest area for me was rotscale. went with a guildie/alliance grp, all humans. what a pain in the rear
the hardest area for me was rotscale. went with a guildie/alliance grp, all humans. what a pain in the rear
Squishy ftw
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Majesty's rest,rotscale and because I started from Fishermen's Haven.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
See first question.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Eastern frontier, had to restart twice before I found the right hero builds to kill those annoying grawl.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
The charr areas in EOTN(I know, don't count as leg vanquisher). I loved fighting against those balanced charr groups. At least they provided a good challenge, not in a dumb overpowered way, but through good builds and party setup(some had 2 monks, 2 nukers, 2 melees, a warder and a spirit spammer).
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
80% of factions, a lot of nightfall and most 8-man prophecies areas.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't bring an obsi tank.
Seriously.
Don't.
Majesty's rest,rotscale and because I started from Fishermen's Haven.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
See first question.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Eastern frontier, had to restart twice before I found the right hero builds to kill those annoying grawl.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
The charr areas in EOTN(I know, don't count as leg vanquisher). I loved fighting against those balanced charr groups. At least they provided a good challenge, not in a dumb overpowered way, but through good builds and party setup(some had 2 monks, 2 nukers, 2 melees, a warder and a spirit spammer).
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
80% of factions, a lot of nightfall and most 8-man prophecies areas.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't bring an obsi tank.
Seriously.
Don't.
Davros Uitar
Not finished the vanquishs yet myself - have 10 or less to go on each continent. From what I have seen though :
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Eastern Frontier 4 man. This is the only area I have had a fail at (started from Ruins of Surnia - bad choice). Changed my tactics though and went 5 man from the gate (5th man being Mursaat Eelementalist )
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
look above.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
its all in the second line.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Any place that goves me Kurczik faction.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Probably that underground place out of Dragons Gullet (kill like 5 things)
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale gave us one of our rare party wipes (only the one), so he wasn't the worst. Our toughest time with 3 wipes was Mr Powerstone himself - Snapjaw. We had breezed through Ssyn and were overconfident. Basically we could not split Snapjaw from another spawn and our lure failed in epic fashion.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Sab's is a good basis, but think through your areas and don't be afraid to experiment with your own builds. Interrupts can be your friend so learn the good points of rangers and mesmers. We have tried both the expolsive growth and the Jagged bones mm's and the jury is stil out for my 2 man + h/h team. Lastly, learn to pull well and nothing is a bother - pull badly and you can epic fail even with the best of builds.
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Eastern Frontier 4 man. This is the only area I have had a fail at (started from Ruins of Surnia - bad choice). Changed my tactics though and went 5 man from the gate (5th man being Mursaat Eelementalist
)What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
look above.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
its all in the second line.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Any place that goves me Kurczik faction.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Probably that underground place out of Dragons Gullet (kill like 5 things)
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale gave us one of our rare party wipes (only the one), so he wasn't the worst. Our toughest time with 3 wipes was Mr Powerstone himself - Snapjaw. We had breezed through Ssyn and were overconfident. Basically we could not split Snapjaw from another spawn and our lure failed in epic fashion.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Sab's is a good basis, but think through your areas and don't be afraid to experiment with your own builds. Interrupts can be your friend so learn the good points of rangers and mesmers. We have tried both the expolsive growth and the Jagged bones mm's and the jury is stil out for my 2 man + h/h team. Lastly, learn to pull well and nothing is a bother - pull badly and you can epic fail even with the best of builds.
Drop of Fear
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Joko Domain. Huge ele and paragon undead boss groups are just baad.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Joko Domain again, just huge.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Old Ascalon
Grawls healing each other are baaad if your team is only made of 4 ppl
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Gyala Hatchery. Because i still do Boss runs to earn Luxon points and i soooo love it now.
8 bosses, 15 minutes, 3000 luxon points ftw!!!
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Shadow passage ofc
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rootscale. Just long, not really dangerous once he's dazed and cannot cast anythig
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Bring DP removers, always use essence of celerity (saves time and makes things easier). dont expect to do it in a week... couple of maps a day and u're fine
Joko Domain. Huge ele and paragon undead boss groups are just baad.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Joko Domain again, just huge.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Old Ascalon
Grawls healing each other are baaad if your team is only made of 4 ppl
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Gyala Hatchery. Because i still do Boss runs to earn Luxon points and i soooo love it now.
8 bosses, 15 minutes, 3000 luxon points ftw!!!
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Shadow passage ofc
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rootscale. Just long, not really dangerous once he's dazed and cannot cast anythig
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Bring DP removers, always use essence of celerity (saves time and makes things easier). dont expect to do it in a week... couple of maps a day and u're fine
Shikaru
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Hidden City simply because of the severe lack of corpses.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Old Ascalon because I kept disconnecting -_-
What area took you the most tries to complete?
All areas, without counting disconnects, took 1 try.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Any area with wyrms. I could c+space as a monk which is nice.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Any area with bodies was fairly easy.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Djinn.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Do NOT overload your team with defense. Pure tanks are not recommended in most if not all areas. Casters with prot on them hold agro better than your 1000hp 1010231208 armor warrior could ever hope to.
If anyone is curious with what build I was running...
1 SoD prot Monk or divert hexes depending on area
1 HB healing Monk
4 Searing flame eles
1 rit/n minion bomber
1 SS necro with barbs etc
Sometimes I'll take out an SF ele for a BHA ranger if I know that area has a nasty ele or rit boss.
If I'm going with real people I usually ask them to double/triple agro in a few cases so that things go faster. Zones of 250 or so get done in about 40-50 minutes. (with an extra 10 minutes looking for that last patrol or group that we may have missed <_<)
Hidden City simply because of the severe lack of corpses.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Old Ascalon because I kept disconnecting -_-
What area took you the most tries to complete?
All areas, without counting disconnects, took 1 try.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Any area with wyrms. I could c+space as a monk which is nice.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Any area with bodies was fairly easy.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Djinn.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Do NOT overload your team with defense. Pure tanks are not recommended in most if not all areas. Casters with prot on them hold agro better than your 1000hp 1010231208 armor warrior could ever hope to.
If anyone is curious with what build I was running...
1 SoD prot Monk or divert hexes depending on area
1 HB healing Monk
4 Searing flame eles
1 rit/n minion bomber
1 SS necro with barbs etc
Sometimes I'll take out an SF ele for a BHA ranger if I know that area has a nasty ele or rit boss.
If I'm going with real people I usually ask them to double/triple agro in a few cases so that things go faster. Zones of 250 or so get done in about 40-50 minutes. (with an extra 10 minutes looking for that last patrol or group that we may have missed <_<)
Steboy93
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Before close, can someone give a link to "Sabs build"? I've yet not found any details on what it is.
If it is what it sounds like it is, then maybe Old Mans suggestion to use an explosive growth bomber instead of the N/Mo bomber isn't that bad. |
Here you go:-
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10200851
Whisper Evenstar
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
I would have to say Tahnakai Temple - before I found someone with the quest that made it trivial. I wasted a bit of time being stubborn and trying it with hero/hench tho....
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
I got annoyed by Joko's Domain - it was one of the earliest areas I did and I was not prepared, yet kept going anyway until it was done
What area took you the most tries to complete?
You won't believe this, but Anvil Rock. For some reason, it took me 4 tries before I noticed the path leading to Frost Gate (and those final enemies that I could never find).
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
I like the Jade Sea/Echovald Forest areas - lots of enemies, some faction bonus, and a few greens along the way
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Hmmm - many areas were easy once I found my groove and got used to the process - its hard to pick just one...
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
The first area I vanquished had a SF ele boss that I was COMPLETELY unprepared for, so I would say that area (far NW area in Vabbi - forget the name). I think my party had -59 dp before we finally got him. To make it even harder, I was stupid and saved him for last - a hard lesson that I learned early, thankfully...
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Do Ascalon when you have time to caravan from Yaks. Take 1 trip to Dragon's Gullet, then start over and go to E Frontier. Makes all those areas so much easier....
Most important - have fun!
I would have to say Tahnakai Temple - before I found someone with the quest that made it trivial. I wasted a bit of time being stubborn and trying it with hero/hench tho....
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
I got annoyed by Joko's Domain - it was one of the earliest areas I did and I was not prepared, yet kept going anyway until it was done
What area took you the most tries to complete?
You won't believe this, but Anvil Rock. For some reason, it took me 4 tries before I noticed the path leading to Frost Gate (and those final enemies that I could never find).
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
I like the Jade Sea/Echovald Forest areas - lots of enemies, some faction bonus, and a few greens along the way
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Hmmm - many areas were easy once I found my groove and got used to the process - its hard to pick just one...
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
The first area I vanquished had a SF ele boss that I was COMPLETELY unprepared for, so I would say that area (far NW area in Vabbi - forget the name). I think my party had -59 dp before we finally got him. To make it even harder, I was stupid and saved him for last - a hard lesson that I learned early, thankfully...
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Do Ascalon when you have time to caravan from Yaks. Take 1 trip to Dragon's Gullet, then start over and go to E Frontier. Makes all those areas so much easier....
Most important - have fun!
CougarTheTall
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You won't believe this, but Anvil Rock. For some reason, it took me 4 tries before I noticed the path leading to Frost Gate (and those final enemies that I could never find).
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Focus on Toucher and monks keep him alive, focus on monks and Toucher kills you.
Pretty frustrating.
Juno Onuj
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Speaking of Sab:I just realized that I've never used her build is because I'm too lazy to set it up.
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PhQ
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Rotscale, actually had to change heroes' builds a bit for that.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
One of the crystal desert maps, there was a patrolling group of hydras that took forever to find.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Eastern frontier, if only counting wipes. Rotscale if counting remapping to get a certain kind of spawn.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Places with wurms, only had to c+space.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Wurm places again.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't use a full tank, protting, kiting and minions accomplishes the same thing.
Rotscale, actually had to change heroes' builds a bit for that.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
One of the crystal desert maps, there was a patrolling group of hydras that took forever to find.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Eastern frontier, if only counting wipes. Rotscale if counting remapping to get a certain kind of spawn.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Places with wurms, only had to c+space.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Wurm places again.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Rotscale.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't use a full tank, protting, kiting and minions accomplishes the same thing.
bhavv
Just seems to me that everyone that flames sabway is a useless player. OP proves my point.
Sabway is 1337 sauz with chips added for dipping.
Sabway is 1337 sauz with chips added for dipping.
Zeek Aran
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way to ruin your own thread, grats.
also, after looking at your vanquishing bars and the comments about the necro builds, i had to giggle. the backline is absolutely terrible, a single SF with BA to supply random burning is crap. 3 rangers are too much, you never heard of warriors, minions are actually crap in HM if you don't bomb them etc etc. |
CougarTheTall
Why are you people such jerks? You're all complaining about how this guy disliked sabway because he didn't test it/have knowledge of it or for whatever reason. Yet you all are bashing the hell out of his build, which was good enough for him to complete vanquisher, without testing it, or having any knowledge beyond looking at it, yourselves. The word hypocrite comes to mind.
It goes back to what I was saying in the other thread. Flaming someone because they use a different team build, skills, play styles, or professions is ignorant at best. Just because something worked for you, doesn't mean it will work for someone else and vise versa.
Also @Zeek: Toucher Rangers, Splinter Barragers, Cripshots, Burning Arrow Ganksters and all those lovely Rangers that bring Frozen Soil along for those elite missions say otherwise to your comments. Bagging a profession because YOU don't think it is good is never a smart idea. Any profession can kill any other profession in the right hands. All professions have equal potential to be great assets to a team, player skill on the hand is a totally different beast.
Also, don't forget about BHA rangers.
It goes back to what I was saying in the other thread. Flaming someone because they use a different team build, skills, play styles, or professions is ignorant at best. Just because something worked for you, doesn't mean it will work for someone else and vise versa.
Also @Zeek: Toucher Rangers, Splinter Barragers, Cripshots, Burning Arrow Ganksters and all those lovely Rangers that bring Frozen Soil along for those elite missions say otherwise to your comments. Bagging a profession because YOU don't think it is good is never a smart idea. Any profession can kill any other profession in the right hands. All professions have equal potential to be great assets to a team, player skill on the hand is a totally different beast.
Also, don't forget about BHA rangers.
ThunderStruck
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Why are you people such jerks? You're all complaining about how this guy disliked sabway because he didn't test it/have knowledge of it or for whatever reason. Yet you all are bashing the hell out of his build, which was good enough for him to complete vanquisher, without testing it, or having any knowledge beyond looking at it, yourselves. The word hypocrite comes to mind.
It goes back to what I was saying in the other thread. Flaming someone because they use a different team build, skills, play styles, or professions is ignorant at best. Just because something worked for you, doesn't mean it will work for someone else and vise versa. |
Zeek Aran
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Also @Zeek: Toucher Rangers, Splinter Barragers, Cripshots, Burning Arrow Ganksters and all those lovely Rangers that bring Frozen Soil along for those elite missions say otherwise to your comments. Bagging a profession because YOU don't think it is good is never a smart idea. Any profession can kill any other profession in the right hands. All professions have equal potential to be great assets to a team, player skill on the hand is a totally different beast.
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Also, it's been gone over many times; ANYTHING works in PvE. Even mending on every character.
CougarTheTall
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Touch rangers? Lawl. Crippling and degen aren't that useful in HM PvE. I'd rather just nuke that crap out of them [fire or with an SS necro], instead of wasting my time being inefficient. We weren't talking about elite missions, we were talking about vanquishing. Also, frozen soil can be brought on any profession and be effective. Barraging is the only viable way for a ranger to deal damage in HM and compete with anything else, but you can't really trust a hero to spam it and put splinter on himself.
Also, it's been gone over many times; ANYTHING works in PvE. Even mending on every character. |
Also, you did not specify PvE or PvP pugs.
The amount of sheer stupidity seen amoung players in game is astounding. He hardly ever pings his Glass Arrows build because people see Glass Arrows and yell "NUUUBB", yet want the build before the venture is through. People have a very venomous pre-disposition to skills that have been nerfed but are still usable, or to skills that are not a part of the current flavor of the month.
Also, another thing I figured I would note is MM's and Minion Bombers. I saw a few people bashing him for apparently not knowing the difference, not knowing how they work, blah blah, whatever. Does anyone remember the Jagged Nova Bomber build that was on wiki, before PvX took over the build section? The build that became the "HoH/AB flavor of the month? The build that basically got Jagged Bones nerfed?
Yeah, that was him. Built, tested, formated and posted, by him. It was also the very first Necro build in the entire wiki database to be vetted as an excellent build into every single category, from PvP HA to AB, and from PvE Hero builds to player controlled. The only section it did not appear in was the farming section.
It's just another case of people bashing others on face value. Most of the time they turn out wrong. He didn't like sabway, leave it alone. If he chooses not to run it, his loss. If he chooses to bash it, his loss. You would think sabway saved your children from a car fire by the way you people are reacting and then turning around and doing the exact same thing to him.
Esan
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Barraging is the only viable way for a ranger to deal damage in HM and compete with anything else [...]
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Also, it's been gone over many times; ANYTHING works in PvE. Even mending on every character.
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Zeek Aran
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Well, he is my brother and anytime you get some free time, we can all go out and do a vanquish. We'll bring our rangers. Until then, anything you say about it is completely based off of assumption.
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Also, you did not specify PvE or PvP pugs.
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You would think sabway saved your children from a car fire by the way you people are reacting and then turning around and doing the exact same thing to him.
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MagmaRed
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Touch rangers? Lawl. Crippling and degen aren't that useful in HM PvE. I'd rather just nuke that crap out of them [fire or with an SS necro], instead of wasting my time being inefficient. We weren't talking about elite missions, we were talking about vanquishing. Also, frozen soil can be brought on any profession and be effective. Barraging is the only viable way for a ranger to deal damage in HM and compete with anything else, but you can't really trust a hero to spam it and put splinter on himself.
Also, it's been gone over many times; ANYTHING works in PvE. Even mending on every character. |
Hench are hard to use, so make sure you know their skill set well, and take the right ones for the area you are Vanquishing. Heroes are more adjustable, and can be flagged, etc., so they make things easier. Know what is in the area, and take out the toughest groups/bosses first. This way you can kill the other stuff to work off DP if need be.
I won't say my style was 'best', but it worked well. Not everyone can play the same way, so it is a matter of knowing HOW you play, and choosing a team build that works with that play style. I used a lot of finesse, not a lot os power. Although I could dish out significant damage, I was more interested in keeping the enemy from deal damage to my teal, and healing their team. Arcane Conundrum on a Mesmer is fun for easy interrupts, and Frustration is even more fun. Hero MMs are godly with Death Nova, so use them everywhere there are corpses. Claude/Eve are not bad damage dealers, but they are awesome at keeping your casters with energy, take them unless you have a hero with Blood Ritual, or can/will use it yourself. Plan for 2 hours for every area. Not all will take that long, but some will, and not having to rush makes things more fun, and easier. Take a friend, as someone to talk with while Vanquishing makes things LOTS more enjoyable, if possible, take a full guild/alliance group.
CougarTheTall
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I never mentioned Sab's build. Why use 'way' in everything? IWAY started this, but it's the only thing to use Will Avenge You! in the title. Sab Will Avenge You! ? No. Just Sab's build. If you'd like to further argue with me, go ahead, but I won't be reading it.
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Mickey
Thread fail +1.
Sab's build > Yours.
Party wide defensive skills, set on a Necro with infinite energy soul reaping = win.
Sab's build > Yours.
Party wide defensive skills, set on a Necro with infinite energy soul reaping = win.
crazybanshee
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What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Gyala Hatchery. Because i still do Boss runs to earn Luxon points and i soooo love it now. 8 bosses, 15 minutes, 3000 luxon points ftw!!! |
HawkofStorms
Some people should have watched Doctor Phil today.
It was about Cyber Bullying and how insulting and threating people over the internet is a federal felony.
It was about Cyber Bullying and how insulting and threating people over the internet is a federal felony.
jackie
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
- Not really any, one frustrating but I'll write it down below.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
- Tahnakai Expo without the quest that makes it nobrainer. Holding aggro with those massive Jade groups is fun eh?
What area took you the most tries to complete?
- None took more than one.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
- Propably Majesty's Rest, went there with my friend once we finished vanquing the area outside ToA and we didn't have anything proper in our build to counter Rotscale and his skills but I (Warr) bodyblocked him so that he stopped using skills and just ran back and forth in a little area. Was quite funny moment.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
- Any desolation area using full smiting team.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
- With Pain Inverter & superior mesmer skills ;D of my friend there weren't any. Bosses with spirit rift can be pain though if done with henchies.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
- It isn't very challenging if you just bother adjust hero/teambuilds according to the enemies that lurks in the area you're about to vanq. Smite against Undead etc. Good luck.
- Not really any, one frustrating but I'll write it down below.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
- Tahnakai Expo without the quest that makes it nobrainer. Holding aggro with those massive Jade groups is fun eh?
What area took you the most tries to complete?
- None took more than one.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
- Propably Majesty's Rest, went there with my friend once we finished vanquing the area outside ToA and we didn't have anything proper in our build to counter Rotscale and his skills but I (Warr) bodyblocked him so that he stopped using skills and just ran back and forth in a little area. Was quite funny moment.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
- Any desolation area using full smiting team.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
- With Pain Inverter & superior mesmer skills ;D of my friend there weren't any. Bosses with spirit rift can be pain though if done with henchies.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
- It isn't very challenging if you just bother adjust hero/teambuilds according to the enemies that lurks in the area you're about to vanq. Smite against Undead etc. Good luck.
Numa Pompilius
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You would think sabway saved your children from a car fire by the way you people are reacting and then turning around and doing the exact same thing to him.
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Washi
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Some people should have watched Doctor Phil today.
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USA "laws" never stop to amaze me, I am seriously sorry for people living there. Come to europe, taste some freedom.
Numa Pompilius
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Come to europe, taste some freedom.
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HawkofStorms
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If you don't like what is written here you can just STOP READING lol. How does it even compare to bullying IRL.
USA "laws" never stop to amaze me, I am seriously sorry for people living there. Come to europe, taste some freedom. |
Washi
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That is a dangerously clueless statement. Please read up on european internet law - that they're at best randomly enforced does not mean they do not exist.
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Yeah.... I mean, sending people death threats against them and their family while using racial slurs shouldn't be illegal, right? (note, not that any of that is happening here, that's just an example of what was on the show).
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Sorry but being sued for insulting someone over "teh internetz" is beyond my imagination, cause internet is a serious business, aye?
Jecht Scye
Currently, I have Elonian Vanquisher, and am 9 zones away from Tyrian Vanquisher(The last nine are going to be easy).
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Joko's Domain - by far. The fact that there are so many areas when you're unable to use wurms versus the undead. Cavaliers and Acolytes both have resurrection skills(Renew Life and Signet of Return). It's advised to do this with someone, but I completed this before Sab's 3 Necro Build came out. Make sure you have a ranger with Frozen Soil
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Joko's Domain - It took several, several tries. sometimes I was within 20 kills to winning before I realized it wasn't possible.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Joko's Domain - haha, this is getting redundant :P
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Shadow Passage - Because to took less than 3 minutes to do.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Shadow Passage - A few Jade Brotherhood and some Afflicted, and you're done.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Shekoss the Stony(Joko's Domain) - He had to be killed without use of wurms, as well as being surrounded by 2 Acolytes and at least one Cavalier.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
If you can get a guild group to go with you, get them to help you out with Snake Dance, Dreadnought's, and Lornar's pass all in one shot. Having 8 people in Lornar's is far easier than 6, so start from Rankor.
Finish Joko's Domain in Elona first if you do Elonian Vanquisher. After that zone, everything else seems easy.
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
Joko's Domain - by far. The fact that there are so many areas when you're unable to use wurms versus the undead. Cavaliers and Acolytes both have resurrection skills(Renew Life and Signet of Return). It's advised to do this with someone, but I completed this before Sab's 3 Necro Build came out. Make sure you have a ranger with Frozen Soil
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Joko's Domain - It took several, several tries. sometimes I was within 20 kills to winning before I realized it wasn't possible.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Joko's Domain - haha, this is getting redundant :P
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
Shadow Passage - Because to took less than 3 minutes to do.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish (besides Bukdek or The Temple)?
Shadow Passage - A few Jade Brotherhood and some Afflicted, and you're done.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Shekoss the Stony(Joko's Domain) - He had to be killed without use of wurms, as well as being surrounded by 2 Acolytes and at least one Cavalier.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
If you can get a guild group to go with you, get them to help you out with Snake Dance, Dreadnought's, and Lornar's pass all in one shot. Having 8 people in Lornar's is far easier than 6, so start from Rankor.
Finish Joko's Domain in Elona first if you do Elonian Vanquisher. After that zone, everything else seems easy.
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I achieved legendary vanquisher the other day and would like to ask some other Legendary Vanquishers or people close to it, the following questions:
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What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
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Don't leave home without some consumables but be sensible about their usage. If you're racking up DP, then there's probably a reason that no amount of powerstones will help you with. Consider restarting.
Find a player or two to buddy up with. I was lucky. I had my guild and alliance to help me. Others don't. If you can find one or two players starting out at the same time as you, who play roughly the same schedule, you'll fly though. Having that extra player and 3 heros instead of the henchies can be a life saver.
Know when to give up. Some days it just isn't happening. Give up, do something else (not another area - farming, guardian for example) and come back to it another day
Hope this helps a few people and good luck to all the future Legendary Vanquishers!
Brianna
I steamrolled all of Cantha with; Two monks, Three Searing Flames Ele's, SS Necro, MM, and a Paragon. Couldn't have been much easier than that.
Jensy
Just got Elonian Vanquisher lastnight, and that's my only continent so far. Have also vanquished most of eotn, save for Charr areas and parts of Norn.
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
- Joko's Domain, before going in with a very specific set of heroes. Zoomed through without problems with 2 Matra of Inscriptions smiters, 1 sav heat, bha ranger, SS, MM (modified first version of Sabs, without the healy crap), and two WoH-Prot monks. The undead just kinda kill themselves for you.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
- Hidden City in Vabbi, only because of the ruby djinn pop-ups. Arbor Bay in eotn, because it was so damn huge and there are so many bleepin' enemies.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
- Joko's had to be done twice, only because the first hero set up gave me fits.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
- All of Vabbi was fun.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish?
- Istan areas.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
- Dinos in eotn. Most bosses go down like a sack of turds with PI and minions, but the dinos are a PITFA.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
- Don't save the 'tougher' stuff for later. Get some of the harder crap out of the way first. Don't be rigid, use builds and heroes that work for each area you're in. Consumables can help drag your butts from the fire.
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
- Joko's Domain, before going in with a very specific set of heroes. Zoomed through without problems with 2 Matra of Inscriptions smiters, 1 sav heat, bha ranger, SS, MM (modified first version of Sabs, without the healy crap), and two WoH-Prot monks. The undead just kinda kill themselves for you.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
- Hidden City in Vabbi, only because of the ruby djinn pop-ups. Arbor Bay in eotn, because it was so damn huge and there are so many bleepin' enemies.
What area took you the most tries to complete?
- Joko's had to be done twice, only because the first hero set up gave me fits.
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
- All of Vabbi was fun.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish?
- Istan areas.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
- Dinos in eotn. Most bosses go down like a sack of turds with PI and minions, but the dinos are a PITFA.
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
- Don't save the 'tougher' stuff for later. Get some of the harder crap out of the way first. Don't be rigid, use builds and heroes that work for each area you're in. Consumables can help drag your butts from the fire.
CougarTheTall
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I steamrolled all of Cantha with; Two monks, Three Searing Flames Ele's, SS Necro, MM, and a Paragon. Couldn't have been much easier than that.
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Gold helmets all around specify differently.
The only problem we had in Cantha were the Jade Brotherhood guys. All it took was for a couple of those warriors to break through into the backline and it was clobberin time.
Targuil
almost done this:
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
So far I think Dreadnough's Drift. I hated summit.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Maguuma jungle. WIND RIDERSSSSS
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Dreadnough's Drift again. Two tries
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
I think i have to answer ascalon. So easy with sabs.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish?
Shadow passage.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Wind riders in maguuma jungle. Most pain in ass
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't go everything alone if you're stuck on somewhere. Even one friend with good heroes is enough for ANY area. Consumeables help alot on whatever you do. Do harder areas first so it's going easier way. BEWARE AOE DAMAGE AND GET [skill]protective spirit[/skill]. It's gonna save your ass more than you think
What was the hardest area for you to vanquish and why?
So far I think Dreadnough's Drift. I hated summit.
What was the most frustrating area for you and why?
Maguuma jungle. WIND RIDERSSSSS
What area took you the most tries to complete?
Dreadnough's Drift again. Two tries
What was your favorite area to vanquish and why?
I think i have to answer ascalon. So easy with sabs.
What was the easiest for you to vanquish?
Shadow passage.
What was the toughest enemy (boss, species, or mob) for you to defeat?
Wind riders in maguuma jungle. Most pain in ass
What advice do you have for someone who is or is about to try and get Legendary?
Don't go everything alone if you're stuck on somewhere. Even one friend with good heroes is enough for ANY area. Consumeables help alot on whatever you do. Do harder areas first so it's going easier way. BEWARE AOE DAMAGE AND GET [skill]protective spirit[/skill]. It's gonna save your ass more than you think