Just Vanquishing an Area, there were 1-2 doyalak riders in each group, wich is No Problem to deal with, but twice now in 2 different areas i came accross groups with 3 doylak riders, now 2 is easy to over come, but three is impossible, and it would be alright if u played with groups/people, but i cant find any1 good enough, so my heroes and henchies are all i have, and cus doylak riders cant be knocked down my ele cant interupt them, not to mention the group has 14 enemies in it, and no matter where i flag my H/H's the enemies run straight pass me for them, making it hard to tank, and making interupting that 1 step harder, i have managed to off those groups, but still for the sake of future players, please limit the game to have 2 healers per group, atleast that way H/H can be done better.
Peace
Just Stressful
gloria vander belt
I pwnd U
Ya I have had this problem before. It's a real pain, even if you spread out your damage their healing is to strong due to bumped up attributes and insane energy recharge. Just have to keep focusing on one or switching between the monks. Not easy for sure.
Keithark
/me hench with leach sig or something like that, ranger with BhA savage and distract, you with savage slash...lots of ways to interrupt
Marty Silverblade
3 Dolyaks is doable, I've done it. You mentioned tanking. It's a waste of a skillbar. H/H can get you Legendary Vanquisher if you do it right.
Molock
Have you tried spamming Scourge Healing/Enchants? I have never actually taken the time to vanquish so I don't know exactly how hard it is to take down these guys.. I guess interupting them is nearly impossible because of the HM buff they get...
3 is indeed overkill, it should (but probably won't, lol) be changed.
3 is indeed overkill, it should (but probably won't, lol) be changed.
eximiis
try to pulling the group or making it move so the dolyak are close to each other making it easier to aoe them.
pressure would be the key. if they flee teh aoe, they don't heal each other while running away.
pressure would be the key. if they flee teh aoe, they don't heal each other while running away.
knives
BHA + Epidemic/Fevered would help.
Chrono Re delle Ere
was just about to post BHA + epidemic, and about tanking with h/h, try putting your heroes 1 and half aggro buble distant from you, always works out for me.
Longasc
The Frostgate mission has a group of 4 Dolyak Masters.
The way to beat them is enchantment removal. Daze is optional, but not needed. It is also not too effective, a their heals are so fast that they even bring them through if dazed, too fast for heroes usually.
Warrior: Be W/D and use Rending Touch
Necromancer: Chillblains and/or Gaze of Contempt help, too.
Did it with both of them. My Necro also vanquished with only one enchantment removal skill (Gaze), without Daze (had two splinter/barrage rangers) and it works (fine!).
Mark of Protection is the only thing that makes them strong. They run out of energy for the 10 energy heal other spells pretty quickly, and then you just have to take care of Mark of Protection, which fortunately has a longish recharge, too.
The way to beat them is enchantment removal. Daze is optional, but not needed. It is also not too effective, a their heals are so fast that they even bring them through if dazed, too fast for heroes usually.
Warrior: Be W/D and use Rending Touch
Necromancer: Chillblains and/or Gaze of Contempt help, too.
Did it with both of them. My Necro also vanquished with only one enchantment removal skill (Gaze), without Daze (had two splinter/barrage rangers) and it works (fine!).
Mark of Protection is the only thing that makes them strong. They run out of energy for the 10 energy heal other spells pretty quickly, and then you just have to take care of Mark of Protection, which fortunately has a longish recharge, too.
Mr. G
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LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!! please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!! |
urg read the posting rules, and if you arn't posting for help why were you posting?
to say "twaz wel' 'ard, but I iz leet?"
Longasc
So your only wish was to reduce the number of Dolyak Riders from 3 to 2.
This should be in the suggestion forum.
I see no reason why PvE should be made even easier because you find the few areas where you have to fight harder "annoying".
Next time think about what you are posting before you post such nonsense. Do you really expect people to feel with you about Dolyaks and having a hard time???
This should be in the suggestion forum.
I see no reason why PvE should be made even easier because you find the few areas where you have to fight harder "annoying".
Next time think about what you are posting before you post such nonsense. Do you really expect people to feel with you about Dolyaks and having a hard time???
Kook~NBK~
Yep, those multi-monk groups are a pain. I'm kinda stuck on the Frost Gate bonus because of the Doylak infested mob there - LOL. I'm not looking forward to clearing out Dreadnaught's drift / Lornar's Pass, that's for sure.
Then again, some of the the ideas posted here have possiblities...
Then again, some of the the ideas posted here have possiblities...
Old Man Of Ascalon
Bring Scourge Healing and Spiteful Spirit. It's what I had to do versing the Grawl healers that mob into groups sometimes 4 strong. That will kill them fast.
Zeek Aran
I did it with a friend and no interrupts. We grouped them and bombed them with burning and other things, switching back and forth for five minutes until one died. Yay! Anyway, there are many things you can do. Enchantment stripping, daze, and backfire are the best though.
cellardweller
Equip a sword, stand with your right shoulder against a wall, select them and hit space, and watch them come running straight for you. They'll fall quickly under SV/AV energy denial when trapped like this.
Messy
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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt
LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!
please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!! |
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt
LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!
please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!! |
Mesmer. That is all.
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt
LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!
please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!! |
Yang Whirlwind
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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
So, if you're not asking for help, then you are whining. "There's too many healers" wah wah
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Since it sounds like you overcame those "3 healers in in huge mob" difficulties, I would deem that what you faced would be called a challenge,- not something that needed fixing!
Avai
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
...As egocentric as you are. You know, when you spell properly, I'll read properly. That's called compromise. You should try it with your terrible planning from now on.
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Keithark
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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt
LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!
please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!! |
Whisper Evenstar
i have overcome 4 dolyaks in HM... gwen is your friend....
Hobbs
Yeah yesterday I was vanqushing Lornar's from Beacons H/H I was pretty much done when I came upon this group of 3 Dolyaks and about 12 other Stone Summit, long story short I couldn't beat them and I resigned.
Squishy ftw
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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind
I would deem that what you faced would be called a challenge,- not something that needed fixing!
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People should QQ less and think more about how to overcome those challenges.
Lyger
Lornars proved the most problematic for me - mainly because of the buffed up Dolyak Riders (as opposed to Dolyak Masters) because they have hex removal. In the end, I got so fed up with it I ran from Snake Dance to Lornars to get an 8 man team and gave my wards ele meteor shower. The enemies will still bunch up, and one meteor shower keeping the Dolyaks knocked down is plenty of time to kill at least one Dolyak and make it more manageable when the stone summit can stand up again. Enchant removal + interrupts = win.
=DNC=Trucker
Good, stronger PVE monkage challenge the 'holy trinity', and require support/shutdown roles which are rarely in demand. My advice is to grab that lonely mesmer in town and see what a handful of diversions do to those riders.
~ Dan ~
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QFT.
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CougarTheTall
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Originally Posted by quickmonty
^Must be an emo^
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~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall
No, people on this forum really are a bunch of flame fags. If you don't run the same builds, know the same stuff or play the same way as them you are a noob and obviously don't know anything about anything.
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Earth
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
i hate ppl posting anything.
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@OP: You shouldn't tank.
What you should do is take a ranger with BHA and lock it on a target.
Oh, and please don't go all QQ on me because I'm trying to help you.
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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall
No, people on this forum really are a bunch of flame fags. If you don't run the same builds, know the same stuff or play the same way as them you are a noob and obviously don't know anything about anything.
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Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall
No, people on this forum really are a bunch of flame fags. If you don't run the same builds, know the same stuff or play the same way as them you are a noob and obviously don't know anything about anything.
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I would hope so anyway, as there really should be no room for derogatory terms like that here. This is a game forum, frequented by many ages and types of people. Can we have a little more respect for one another please?
As for the original intent of the thread...people posting their own solutions to the mentioned problem IS helpful to those of us yet to face the challenge. Whether the OP intended the thread to 'help' or not is inconsequential at this point, as the replies are relevant to us all as players. Forums are meant for sharing experiences, not insults.
puffzilla
I'm using totem of Man!.. wait for it to recharge
I'm using I'm unstopable
I'm using Ursan Blessing.
Ya can't say I had any issues or really exited out of ursan for that area.
I'm using I'm unstopable
I'm using Ursan Blessing.
Ya can't say I had any issues or really exited out of ursan for that area.
CougarTheTall
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Or it's probably just people like you who think mending is good, and therefore it is, because no-one has the right to say you're wrong.
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Perhaps the OP wouldn't be such a "bad" player if people such as yourself would stop telling them how bad they sucked and how stupid they were and actually help them develop a decent build, or by all means, actually go play with them and help them. But we're too l33t for that aren't we.
In a game this size with all the many different combinations, I think it is inherently ignorant to put someone down because you don't like what they do. Different skills, builds and professions work differently between different people and different play styles and to say something sucks because you deem it infieror to something you would normally run is quite ignorant indeed.
To the OP: If you need help with this mission or any other missions, let me know. IGN is Cougar The Tall. I have beaten these things and wouldn't mind helping you if you ask.
Shakti
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Perhaps the OP wouldn't be such a "bad" player if people such as yourself would stop telling them how bad they sucked and how stupid they were and actually help them develop a decent build, or by all means, actually go play with them and help them. But we're too l33t for that aren't we. In a game this size with all the many different combinations, I think it is inherently ignorant to put someone down because you don't like what they do. Different skills, builds and professions work differently between different people and different play styles and to say something sucks because you deem it infieror to something you would normally run is quite ignorant indeed. To the OP: If you need help with this mission or any other missions, let me know. IGN is Cougar The Tall. I have beaten these things and wouldn't mind helping you if you ask. |
He wasn't interested in help beating it, didn't want any build info etc, he wanted basically to....well I'm not entirely sure...say how hard it was and get people to agree? Say that area should be changed? Not sure.
While I honestly applaud your kind offer of help, I'm afraid in this case it's...wasted.
CougarTheTall
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Originally Posted by Shakti
The problem with that Cougar is that the OP didn't WANT help. After a few helpful posts what he said was "LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!"
He wasn't interested in help beating it, didn't want any build info etc, he wanted basically to....well I'm not entirely sure...say how hard it was and get people to agree? Say that area should be changed? Not sure. While I honestly applaud your kind offer of help, I'm afraid in this case it's...wasted. |
Either way, an offering of help is better than a flaming any day.
Darkobra
Cougar, Gloria's always like this. If you help her, she'll shower you in abuse. Just keep your guard up.
freaky naughty
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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall
I too read into this, but by my logic, someone who would come in here and make a thread such as this really does want help, but is too proud to admit it.
Either way, an offering of help is better than a flaming any day. |
Sirius-NZ
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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall
You are by far the worst, most derogative person I have seen on this forum, it seems every post you make is simply you telling someone else how bad they suck all while making up such false statements to back up your point. Ad Hominum(sp) anyone?
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And is often just a little toooo accurate...
Kamatsu
As this is just a whine/rant thread with little to no discussion value/possibility..
Thread Closed.
Thread Closed.