Question abt updates

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey evrybody im plannin to get prophecies but i hav a question abt the updates.I read sumwher that this game has inteligent streaming of updates so wht i want to ask is will i b able to jump straight into the action after purchasin and all the updates will b dl while im playing or will i hav to dl all of them before i play?Thanks.

Kahmal

Kahmal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Isle of the nameless

Captain Tickles Pirate Palooza[Arrr]

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you will have to download a bit before you can play i believe. Maps and equipment update as you play i think though...not 100%

xXDemonXx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Soldiers Of Untold Legends[SOUL]

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yea after u have it on ur acc u just load up each area u go into.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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if you get prophecies be prepared for a fairly large update before you can actually play the game. As it was release 3 years ago roughly...also when you enter a new town/area you will have to download the data for that area as well. If you are on a fast connection i would suggest you download the whole thing at one time...around 3.6g or so of data to download..although that downloads everyething for all the games...but once you have done so you don't have the slight lag or load times on entering areas...

to dl the entire image... click the properties of your game icon and add -image after ""
should look something like this

"c:\Program Files\Guild Wars\gw.exe" -image

then remove the -image tag and run the game

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey thanks for the quick response guys. but another thing has popped up.I dont hav a very fast internet so wht i wanted to ask if its downloaded a certain amount of updates and then i stop will it resume or continue from scratch?thanks.

Kahmal

Kahmal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Isle of the nameless

Captain Tickles Pirate Palooza[Arrr]

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if you download a percentage, that percentage will be downloaded. The download percentage bar will still start at 0% because you would be at 0% of downloading the files remaining.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I don't pay too much on spelling myself, but geez, try and buy a dictionary (No offence)

After installing the initial game, your game pretty much downloads every update over the past 2 years when first starting up. Then the first time you load a map, to download an initial 3000-4000 files. (Mainly graphics, I gues).

And then in the beginning about 100 files every time you visit a new area. Guild Wars also runs "hidden" downloads in the background. As far as I know, there is no way to stop them...

As for slow internet, welcome to 2008


SO summed up:

Insalling all the bs, Download all the update + files, you will probably be sitting at your computer for an hour/2 hours downloading (Depends HOW slow your connection is, I pray to god it's faster than 100kb/s, for you anyways).

rubina1

rubina1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

The game needs a RL [skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill] for instant patching.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

thanks for all the quick replies guys appreciate it!!infact i think this is the fastest forum i have come across!!I dont know why but questions keep on popping up.If my pc crashes(does that alot but its been right for a year now think its made its new years resolution loll!!) and i format it and all and re install guilld wars.Will i have to dl all the updates again?If so is there a way to store them(copy) on a dvd?Also,do you think my choice to start with prophecies is good?

PS:I do have a dictionary :P lollll!!

NeonXero

NeonXero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Pennsylvania

Leaked Aggression [grr]

D/W

If you want to keep your downloads... just burn the gw.dat (pretty sure thats the name) file onto a DVD, it will not fit on a CD. Then after you format or whatever, just download the client off of guildwars.com - and put your updated .dat file from the DVD into the newly created "Guild Wars" folder in your Program Files.

And yeah, Prophecies is generally a good one to start with.

Sorry if I put up some wrong information there... but I'm pretty sure its mostly accurate. Have fun and good luck!

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

thanks!!but why should i download lol if i hav the orig cd (soon hopefully)

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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well you wouldn't need to DL if you install fresh and then exit out and copy your "burnt" gw.dat into the proper dirrectory structure...but if you happen to lose you CD you can download the executable game file from Gw.com

Don't worry about not being able to download everything in an hour or two. Just start your download and then go do something or let it run over night. If you are on dial up...then i suggest you don't follow the advice on the -image thing....or if you do...do it over a period of nights... Good luck and have fun

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Going back to the first question, updates are streamed while you play so technically you will be able to jump right into the game after the initial updates. However the updates, as well as much of your original gw.dat(even from a fresh install off the discs) come compressed and you'll have to wait till those files are decompressed first. That usually takes awhile. As mentioned, its best to just use the -image command switch and leave it on overnight, before you try to play.

Also I don't know if they've updated the gw.dat on re-printings of the original disks, yet(though probably not). So installing from those disks leaves your gw.dat at 1.6(?) gigs. You have 2 gigs worth of updates waiting for you. If your gw.dat gets deleted, you will have to download all this stuff once again. You can just burn that file onto a dvd if you want, but I would advise doing it only after it is up to date, as the .dat is updated fairly often.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey thx so this -image command switch also has pausing and resume download right?

Xylia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Pond [pond]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gofi
hey thx so this -image command switch also has pausing and resume download right?
You can close it at any time and run the command again. I haven't run into any issues doing this.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by gofi
hey thanks for the quick response guys. but another thing has popped up.I dont hav a very fast internet so wht i wanted to ask if its downloaded a certain amount of updates and then i stop will it resume or continue from scratch?thanks.
The question im askin is does the above also apply to the -image command thingi?thanks.

PS:The quote above is based on the idea of downloadin the initial updates when i start up the game i think.Can someone clarify pls.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gofi
The question im askin is does the above also apply to the -image command thingi?thanks.

PS:The quote above is based on the idea of downloadin the initial updates when i start up the game i think.Can someone clarify pls.
The initial updates happen regardless of the command switch. The only thing the -image command switch does is fully update and decompress your .dat at one time, rather then stream the updates slowly in the background or decompress only as you get to a certain area. And the -image command switch does not have a pause and resume in the traditional sense. You can cancel and close anytime you want. When you start it up again, it'll resume from where it left off.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

thanks that cleared everything In Summary:
1)I can start playing when the initial updates finish dl but it will always dl new ones when i enter a new area.
2)If i dl the -image command it will dl everythin so ther will b nothing left to dl even if i enter a new area except new updates when they come around.

Is that right?

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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correct...and like it was stated above..you don't have to run the -image command till it finishes...you can start/stop it as you want..depending on how quick it downloads for you...

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

thanks everbody .Now can anyone pls tell which store or site in UK i can get a good deal for guild wars?

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

After all this and you don't even have the game yet?! -_-

Try play.com, HMV or Game. The prices maybe different depending on which chapter you want to buy.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

loll dont worry u rili hav convinced me to get the game loll.And another thing guys do u know the difference betweem the normal edition and special edition of prophecies coz the special is for £10 and the normal is for £15.DO u get the cds in the special?thx

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild..._and_Packaging

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

excellent link thanks!!

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey guys i hav another question.Approximately how big is a single update and how frequently are updates released?Thanks.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

also another thing i heard u can get a 10hr trial?How do i get this do i have to download anything?If so how big is it?And if anyone has the buddy key could i pls hav it?Thanks.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey wheres everybody lost?lolll.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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you can get a buddy key buy posting in the sticky for buddy/trial key request...it is the same size of a download as you would normally have when you buy the game...around 3.5 gig or so..

Updates vary...

small update = less that 1-200k
Large update = 100-500-1000 mg

link for buyddy key requests
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10067073

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

ahh large updates are for the special events right?no use to dl 3.5gig jus for a trial will take ages id rather wait for my game to come lol.thanks.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

thanks for all the help guys.im sure u might soon see a new player running around soon (maybe in may after my exams).Look forward to adventurin with all u guys if u stil play prophecies .

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

One last thing. There is typically a small update every Tuesday or Wednesday because Anet has little weekend events every weekend. But the big updates don't happen too often, maybe one a month or once every couple of months.

warcrap

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

somewhere on earth!

E/Me

you pop the cd into your comp then u have the game but when u start it up it will compress the updates so it will take a while before you can play maybe 4 minutes.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

For you, i would definately suggest the Platinum edition, its cheaper and very nice since you get prophecies + the GW:EN expansion. Although in certain stores GW:Prophecies has been known that GW can be as low as $10! But in a regular store it should be around $30. PLatinum is around $50-60. Since ur UK, just pretty much divide by 2 to get the amt in pounds, give or take a bit.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey thx for the update on the updates and ill certainly consider getting the platinum.If any of u do find a sweet deal on any guild wars game could u pls post it here^^ cant wait to get it.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey also i heard about guild wars 2.When is it coming out?and has the closed beta started?

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Wars 2 won't come out until 2009/2010. Don't think the CB started yet.

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gofi
thanks everbody .Now can anyone pls tell which store or site in UK i can get a good deal for guild wars?
I'd look around online. Generally stores will stick to the one price until they decide to put it on sale because:
1) Old game (which Prophecies is)
2) Doesn't sell well (Factions)
3) A new campaign is coming out (Nightfall)

If I was you and you are new to Guild Wars, buy a Prophecies + Eye of the North bundle.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey thx i will have to look into prophecies/eye of the north.Do u know when price cuts happen?eg easter.

gofi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

hey guys i love this forum loll it found me a sweet deal on one of the advertsments nightfall:collectors edition for £9!!too good a deal i couldnt miss the opportunity.Can i have an opinion?What do u people think should i buy prophecies then add the nightfall(on the way) or start with nightfall?Thanks.

PS:Remember im a new player to guild wars. .And still lookin for an answer to above question lol incase your answer is prophecies.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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Personally, I think it's best to start with prophecies as it offers the best learning curve from starting. If you are in a hurry to get to competitive pvp, nightfall/factions may be better as you'll advance faster but it's a much steeper learning curve.