Why not a little $ perk to play PVP

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

I like PVP but I seem to get so poor when I play. All those skills you can unlock but can not use unless you fork out 1k each. I am primarily a PVE player. I love the fact they added Z keys, but I was hoping they could implement a gold spiff for winning a match. Nothing crazy but maybe a 100 gold for a match won and maybe a 150 gold perk for a flawless win. RA, HH, TA, and HA only

samcobra

samcobra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/Me

ever heard of Zaishen Keys?

Llint

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Need moar gold sink.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
I love the fact they added Z keys
Quote:
Originally Posted by samcobra
ever heard of Zaishen Keys?
Yes, he has

But indeed, they added zaishen keys not too long ago, this is already some kind of a $ reward being added to PvP. IMO there's no need at all to add more $ rewards to it as a PvP player doesn't needs any money really,and PvE players..well..they farm for it/get it by playing the game(PvE) ?

/notsigned

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
I like PVP but I seem to get so poor when I play. All those skills you can unlock but can not use unless you fork out 1k each.
It's called getting a PvP character. If you want to take your PvE character and actually care about what skills you use, then be ready to pay for them.

Darkhell153

Darkhell153

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

right behind you

Highlander Honor Guard [HHnr]

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Get PvE farmers out of our lovely PvP! It's messed up enough with them in it

/unsigned and stabbed with a fork.

NecroticChanter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Toronto

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]

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Be like WoW's battlegrounds and have a small sum of money(average 300g) per kill split amongst the entire party? 300/8=37.5g ea.

Not much but it would give the pvper some money. Ofc, Anet did introduce Zaishen Keys but tbh, the keys' values are dropping like hell from 5k when they first came out to about 1.5k-2k now. I think the Zaishen Keys are enough but if Anet wanted a pvp char to earn the same or similiar amount of money as a pve char, the battlegrounds idea is not that radical is it?

/unsigned , Zaishen keys should be enough for now.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
It's called getting a PvP character. If you want to take your PvE character and actually care about what skills you use, then be ready to pay for them.
/agree 100000000000%

L|S >+>+G+<+<

L|S >+>+G+<+<

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhell153
Get PvE farmers out of our lovely PvP! It's messed up enough with them in it

/unsigned and stabbed with a fork.


get pvp whingers & crybabies to stop moaning about the skills and screwing it all up for pve'ers!!

stabbed back with a sharp stick

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by L|S >+>+G+<+<
get pvp whingers & crybabies to stop moaning about the skills and screwing it all up for pve'ers!!

stabbed back with a sharp stick
Nerfing stupidly imbalanced skills does not 'screw it up' for PVE'ers.

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
Nerfing stupidly imbalanced skills does not 'screw it up' for PVE'ers.
Yes it does.

Now you dont really need money in pvp, and if you did there are Z. Keys and thats all you'd need along with HoH Chest drops.

So yea, Less QQ Moar Pew Pew.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
Nerfing stupidly imbalanced skills does not 'screw it up' for PVE'ers.
Skills are not stupidly imbalanced, they're combined to form builds that do well in PvP but fail hard in PvE, and the skills as they are used in PvE are NOT overpowered.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/notsigned

You've already heard of Zaishen Keys.

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

Although I completely agree with the fact that PvP nerfs affect PvE builds (I play both and have noticed), this idea is bound to cause way to many problems, even with the report system implemented.

I am quite sure ANet does not want to add more potential exploits to the system.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

/not signed


also I am sick of seeing every other warrior be a glad stance tank. Its getting really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing old

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
It's called getting a PvP character. If you want to take your PvE character and actually care about what skills you use, then be ready to pay for them.
woot for logic

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

They throw zaishen keys your way. There are rare drops in halls. If you're using $ in your title and not Gold, then there's great rl things you can win in MTs. Quit complaining. Always more more more.....

/not signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
also I am sick of seeing every other warrior be a glad stance tank. Its getting really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing old
i herd target switchin or wild blow is gud

arbiter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

that dwarven house in beacons perch

koss

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Hey i heard anet is thinking of putting a chest in the hall of heroes and if you win you get a zaishen key and a rare drop of some sort! Maybe even a ghostly hero mini pet worth 1000+ ectos! WOW! Plus they are making pvp characters that have skills unlocked with balthazar faction!

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Zaishen keys and Hall of Heroes...
You gotta work for that gold!
But I think they should give you a small sum of gold if you reach 15 consecutive wins... maybe 50-100 gold would be fine.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Skills are not stupidly imbalanced, they're combined to form builds that do well in PvP but fail hard in PvE, and the skills as they are used in PvE are NOT overpowered.
If they fail hard in PvE why does it matter at all if they are nerfed?

Darkhell153

Darkhell153

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

right behind you

Highlander Honor Guard [HHnr]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by L|S >+>+G+<+<
get pvp whingers & crybabies to stop moaning about the skills and screwing it all up for pve'ers!!

stabbed back with a sharp stick
well since I'm not one of the ones crying over it go talk to one who's doing that...and begone foul stick of lies!!! *breaks the stick and stabs with a fork*

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned
The point of PvP is to win and have fun doing it.

Not grind for money in PvE (which the economist in me does enjoy).

PS L|S whatever your name is... many of us play both PvE AND PvP, rather then just play only half of a game they payed for and then insult a few hundred thousand people.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

100 gold and the faction for a win vs a team that got unlucky and had a noob or two with them? No way man!


/notsigned.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

L|S does have a good point though, it's annoying when people use lame builds that are overpowered in PvE, making a single skill nerfed for everyone. Splinter weapon barragers were nerfed, People that needed recall for Shadow Form Farming got screwed, and not to mention deadly paradox...

argh

argh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhell153
Get PvE farmers out of our lovely PvP! It's messed up enough with them in it

/unsigned and stabbed with a fork.
agreed...wammos in RA think they are leet...i can't help but sigh

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

/not signed

Please no more "make the game easier for me" threads please

That goes for all of you

Yes, I'm talking to you

Yes, YOU, stop lookin around like this is directed else where.

And you, that one, get a hair cut for the love of God.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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I don't get it? Why do PvPer's need money?

Let's see. Your characters are instantly at Level 20 with no grind and are given max weapons and max armor for free. You don't even have to buy any skills. You are also given free skills in exchange for faction. These are all things that us PvE'ers have to fork out cash to get.

Kahmal

Kahmal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Isle of the nameless

Captain Tickles Pirate Palooza[Arrr]

W/

sigils, but still we have z.keys to sell to obtain those now. Lets not forget a couple good halls wins gives those as well.

/notsigned.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

It surprises me that people would not think this an ok idea. I do farm for gold which how I keep my 10 characters going but it is such a waste of time. I farm for an hour and get 8k-10k. With this you would play PVP for hour and get what 1 to 2k. Time is money to people and let’s face not everyone has time for both. It would just be a small incentive to get and keep PVE players playing RA. Yes we have Z-keys which are great. But to think you can get rich on them is pretty foolish. Let’s say you get 3k a key if you sell. In the time it took you to farm 5k faction You can farm twice the amount in gold in PVE. It is not a get rich scheme it is just a small perk to play.

Edit

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
I don't get it? Why do PvPer's need money?
It would alow them to have cash to buy uber Skins and mods for those skins

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

oh yee of little convincing

Quote:
Painbringer It surprises me that people would not think this an ok idea. I do farm for gold which how I keep my 10 characters going but it is such a waste of time. I farm for an hour and get 8k-10k. With this you would play PVP for hour and get what 1 to 2k. Time is money to people and let’s face not everyone has time for both. It would just be a small incentive to get and keep PVE players playing RA. Yes we have Z-keys which are great. But to think you can get rich on them is pretty foolish. Let’s say you get 3k a key if you sell. In the time it took you to farm 5k faction You can farm twice the amount in gold in PVE. It is not a get rich scheme it is just a small perk to play.
1. No, not everyone has time for both, hence there are Hard Core PvEers and Hard Core PvPers, as well as those who can prioritise and comprimise.

2. No one should ever be paid anything to RA, EVER

3. Then go farm gold in PvE and don't PvP

4. Perks are A) Balt Faction B) Emotes C) Titles D) Smack talk against real people E) Zaishen Keys F) Reward Points G) Gold Trimmed Capes H) Tourney Tokens (lol) I) And just for you Smith, EPEEN Spamming.

Bring on the Kittens please

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Basically, the Z Keys were intended for a way for PvPers to get money, but they're near impossible to sell anymore, and the Z Chest only drops crap (After using 12 keys, only 2 were gold weapons (which were awful, btw), 1 normal tome, and 9 assorted tonics, firewater, brulees)

Anyone who wants to buy Z Keys, knows they're not worth 3k each, like they were selling for before. The chest is hardly worth opening, I know one person (alliance member) who got a req 11 Diamond Aegis, and that is the best drop from the chest I've heard from so far.

There should be a reasonable way for PvP players to get cash, but to do something like this, you would need a few major gold sinks,

Maybe double storage for 3k or something? Everyone wants moar storage!

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by L|S >+>+G+<+<
get pvp whingers & crybabies to stop moaning about the skills and screwing it all up for pve'ers!!
Ok, here's the story about the PvE players that are ignorant, like quoted poster

In PvE, you want to find the most IMBA skill bar that can uber-pwn the mobs. In PvP, the same principle applies, although, there is dignity involved (anyone else remember how hard IWAY and ViMWAY got bashed? And Blood Spike back in Factions days?) People would rather run something thats fun to play, than run something thats the most IMBA. That is why PvPers call for nerfs on such things. We want to have fun.

PvP fun = having fun
PvE fun = IMBA raping mobs

imho, of course

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin
L|S does have a good point though, it's annoying when people use lame builds that are overpowered in PvE, making a single skill nerfed for everyone. Splinter weapon barragers were nerfed, People that needed recall for Shadow Form Farming got screwed, and not to mention deadly paradox...
Splinter weapon does too much damage, thats why it was nerfed. If it does too much damage in PvP it also does too much in PvE, just the AI can't complain about it. Shadow Form farming or any type of solo farming is overpowered. If you can take on a lvl 20 area designed for 8 people by yourself your build is overpowered.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
If you can take on a lvl 20 area designed for 8 people by yourself your build is overpowered.
This may be the single smartest GW-related thing I have ever heard.

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

Most hardcore pvp'rs are 100x richer than your average pve player because of HoH chest...

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

How about being able to unlock new armor sets in PvP upon purchasing them in PvE! OMG LOLOLOLOLOL

ThisSuddenInjury

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

PM ME Top 100 xp

Rt/D

Quote:
If you can take on a lvl 20 area designed for 8 people by yourself your build is overpowered.
Word.
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杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
How about being able to unlock new armor sets in PvP upon purchasing them in PvE! OMG LOLOLOLOLOL

'Hey lookz, I haev 12 warrior fissure of woe sets, I pwn choo!!!1!!11!!!!'

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

If this was implemented you'd have bot farmers farming ra for gold instead of general pve.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

/not-signed

This would bring out too many gold farmers ><