Snowman Lair HM chest drops
Tender Wolf
I can see why in normal mode, the snowman lair dungeon only drops Wintersday items. But even though it's only snowballs and things that are used in hard mode in the same dungeon, I still think that something else besides those things should come out of the end chest. Yes some Wintersday items are fine but why not at least a good purple or bad gold? Purple because it doesn't add to your Wisdom title, since it's the snowman lair, and a bad gold because it adds to the title but no one would use it. Tomes and shards/gems probably don't need to drop in here but since it's hard mode I think a better reward would be in order than Wintersday stuff.
I Phoenix I
The Snowmen Lair is easy enough, even in HM. In other dungeons, you only get double rewards in HM of what you would normally get in NM, so why should the Snowmen Lair be any different?
Please, no more suggestions...
Please, no more suggestions...
quickmonty
It's an easy dungeon, even in HM, so I don't expect great drops.
Most people do it repeatedly for the reputation points, not the drops.
Although I would like to see better drops, I don't think it is necessary.
Most people do it repeatedly for the reputation points, not the drops.
Although I would like to see better drops, I don't think it is necessary.
Sir Pandra Pierva
Does it get double drop in HM
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Does it get double drop in HM
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I D E L E T E D I
/notsigned
it was a little bonus dungeon, and its good place to CR which i think is good enough
it was a little bonus dungeon, and its good place to CR which i think is good enough
Sir Pandra Pierva
ok didn't know that.
You can't see me
The reward must match the difficulty of the dungeon, (Or logic would have it).
That dungeon is way too easy to drop anything of remote value. I'm not signing anything that gives mundo rewards for no work. Stop suggesting things please. (Wasn't three threads on the first page already not enough for you?)
That dungeon is way too easy to drop anything of remote value. I'm not signing anything that gives mundo rewards for no work. Stop suggesting things please. (Wasn't three threads on the first page already not enough for you?)
I pwnd U
/notsigned
Easiest dungeoun in the game, we don't need better rewards for beating a kiddie dungeon
Easiest dungeoun in the game, we don't need better rewards for beating a kiddie dungeon
Adam144
Mini Polar Bear.
Tender Wolf
If it's so easy then why did a full party of mine end up at 60dp, except for me because I had pumpkin cookies? Can't be that easy. Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
I Phoenix I
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
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MisterB
That's the second-easiest dungeon after Frontis Irontoe's in GWEN, even in HM. The rewards are fine. I'm not going to comment on your 60 DP issue. Try changing tactics. Go Splinter + Barrage, or even R/E with Obsidian Flesh if you must. Those 2 builds are really easy to run in there, even if they may not be the best.
edit: /notsigned because I like the wintersday rewards there
edit: /notsigned because I like the wintersday rewards there
Zahr Dalsk
Please, leave the wintersday stuff, free booze drops from that, and we all like booze, amirite?
DarkFlame
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
If it's so easy then why did a full party of mine end up at 60dp, except for me because I had pumpkin cookies? Can't be that easy. Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
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As for the suggestion, its an easter egg of a dungeon, its rewards should match that silly tone.
/notsigned
Coin Operated Girl
just take 1 other player with 6 hero's: 6 searings with hp/aegis (or 5 and an icy vein nec :P is also fun) 2 monks. Snowman will be exploding all around you... funny how people want rewards for this 
.... the dungeon itself is a reward imho. Free points, 4 high end chests, xmas moa birds and ALE! what more can a person want
I can't believe I actually posted to this
.... the dungeon itself is a reward imho. Free points, 4 high end chests, xmas moa birds and ALE! what more can a person want I can't believe I actually posted to this
Phoenix Tears
ya..some drop chance for polar bear ...
would be really a pain in the ass.. to wait ever a year.. just to get maybe a chance to get that pet ...
and 100 platin x thousand ecto pets SUCK
would be really a pain in the ass.. to wait ever a year.. just to get maybe a chance to get that pet ...
and 100 platin x thousand ecto pets SUCK
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
If it's so easy then why did a full party of mine end up at 60dp, except for me because I had pumpkin cookies? Can't be that easy. Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
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Anyways, /notsigned. It's an easy dungeon whether you think it is or not. It's meant as a bonus dungeon, it does not require gold rewards. If you don't like the rewards, don't play this dungeon. As far as I can see it's already too hard for you to do anyways.
quickmonty
Two SF heroes and a MM hero and this dungeon is a cakewalk. Fill out the party with the two hench monks and anything else.
mrmango
Tender, don't you ever take comments that are negative and try to wonder why everyone thinks they're stupid? (Btw they're very very stupid.)
Like this, pretty dumb. /notsigned
Like this, pretty dumb. /notsigned
Kiragi Yagami
idk, i dont want to critique tender's suggestion *hints at rest of people in this thread*, but i think that normal dungeon drops from such an easy dungeon might be a bit much, since a 2 person team with 5 barragers and 1 weapon spell rit can clear it in HM in about 3 minutes. still, i wouldnt mind having a small chance to get that polar bear :P
still, i have to go with /notsigned
still, i have to go with /notsigned
knoll
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
If it's so easy then why did a full party of mine end up at 60dp, except for me because I had pumpkin cookies? Can't be that easy. Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
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Also the drops are bad because the dungeon is so easy.
Faer
A dungeon that can be completed in less than ten minutes, consistently, and with minimal effort, shouldn't give out decent rewards. Even Candy Canes are a bit too high class for that nonsense.
Anduin
I agree with the others that say dungeon rewards should reflect the difficulty of the dungeon, and so in that sense the rewards are fine how they are.
But in that sense, Vloxen Excavations should give more faction points in hard mode, where it goes from being a normal quest, run of the mill dungeon, into being one of the hardest dungeons in the game (I found Shards of Orr and Frostmaw's both to be considerably easier than this dugeon, both of which are master's quest dungeons).
It currently gives 2250 points, whereas master's quest dungeons, which are easier and less time consuming, give 4500.
Then again, I should also be able to argue that dungeon difficulty should match the quest difficulty. Secret Lair of the Snowmen is in no way a master's quest dungeon. And, in a similar vein of thought, Vloxen Excavations, being a normal quest dungeon, should not be harder than the master's quest dungeons, especially when it is at the point of being one of the hardest dungeons (in hard mode). That's pretty rediculous, all things considered.
But in that sense, Vloxen Excavations should give more faction points in hard mode, where it goes from being a normal quest, run of the mill dungeon, into being one of the hardest dungeons in the game (I found Shards of Orr and Frostmaw's both to be considerably easier than this dugeon, both of which are master's quest dungeons).
It currently gives 2250 points, whereas master's quest dungeons, which are easier and less time consuming, give 4500.
Then again, I should also be able to argue that dungeon difficulty should match the quest difficulty. Secret Lair of the Snowmen is in no way a master's quest dungeon. And, in a similar vein of thought, Vloxen Excavations, being a normal quest dungeon, should not be harder than the master's quest dungeons, especially when it is at the point of being one of the hardest dungeons (in hard mode). That's pretty rediculous, all things considered.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
If it's so easy then why did a full party of mine end up at 60dp, except for me because I had pumpkin cookies? Can't be that easy. Guess some of us are just a little better than others.
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Originally Posted by I Phoenix I
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Rewy
/notsigned
considering that my mainly played character is a Ranger, I find the dungeon very easy. (Only annoying thing was the traps... on the first time.)
I just buffed up everyone with fire weapons that I had + Greater conflagration and 2 eles. It was a cakewalk in the end in in HM.
(though to my other character - an assassin 25xSnowBall doesn't look fair XD )
considering that my mainly played character is a Ranger, I find the dungeon very easy. (Only annoying thing was the traps... on the first time.)
I just buffed up everyone with fire weapons that I had + Greater conflagration and 2 eles. It was a cakewalk in the end in in HM.
(though to my other character - an assassin 25xSnowBall doesn't look fair XD )
TheRaven
/notsigned, but not for the reasons everyone else has posted/flamed.
I think the rewards should match the dungeon. This dungeon is a cute homage to Wintersday, so it's appropiate that the rewards are wintersday items. If the chest is changed then change it to match the theme.
Add Candy Cane Weapons (rare drops)
Add a Mini Polar Bear (super super super rare drop, same odds as Strength of Snow quest)
add unopened Wintersday gifts.
The rewards really aren't that bad for this dungeon. You can get spiked eggnog here and it's the only place that's available outside of Wintersday. You also get a boatload of Delver points towards the title.
I think the rewards should match the dungeon. This dungeon is a cute homage to Wintersday, so it's appropiate that the rewards are wintersday items. If the chest is changed then change it to match the theme.
Add Candy Cane Weapons (rare drops)
Add a Mini Polar Bear (super super super rare drop, same odds as Strength of Snow quest)
add unopened Wintersday gifts.
The rewards really aren't that bad for this dungeon. You can get spiked eggnog here and it's the only place that's available outside of Wintersday. You also get a boatload of Delver points towards the title.
Steboy93
This dungeon is extremely easy and i believe the rewards are fitting for the difficulty of the dungeon. If your entire party was on 60% dp you really need to get better at the game.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Arcanis the Omnipotent
4 peppermint candy canes would be nice. Other than that, the dungeon's real purpose is to farm Deldirmor points. I mean, its the easiest way in the game to do so. Just go with what you have.
R.Shayne
/not signed
The dungeon is a Wintersday dungeon so the rewards fit.
I do like the suggestion of adding wintersday weapons and especially the polar bear mini.
The dungeon is a Wintersday dungeon so the rewards fit.
I do like the suggestion of adding wintersday weapons and especially the polar bear mini.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
I can see why in normal mode, the snowman lair dungeon only drops Wintersday items. But even though it's only snowballs and things that are used in hard mode in the same dungeon, I still think that something else besides those things should come out of the end chest. Yes some Wintersday items are fine but why not at least a good purple or bad gold? Purple because it doesn't add to your Wisdom title, since it's the snowman lair, and a bad gold because it adds to the title but no one would use it. Tomes and shards/gems probably don't need to drop in here but since it's hard mode I think a better reward would be in order than Wintersday stuff.
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legion_rat
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
I would sign this idea if the purple and gold weapons were ONLY wintersday max weapons! Not normal skin weapons!
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Practice more in NM if you need to.
(Oh and Fish, I like the new avatar)
~the rat~
thedeadlyassassin
It's not meant for the reward from chest, it's the best place to farm dwarf reputation.
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by Adam144
Mini Polar Bear.
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OP: I've never even touched the Snowman Dungeon yet, because I've heard how little reward it's worth, and I just haven't bothered to go through it. The point of it is Wintersday, and that's how it should stay.
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
I would sign this idea if the purple and gold weapons were ONLY wintersday max weapons! Not normal skin weapons!
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chowmein69
/notsigned
I like the rewards they have right now , helps my drunk title and its an easy dungeon imo
I like the rewards they have right now , helps my drunk title
and its an easy dungeon imo
RhanoctJocosa
Put the Mini Polar Bear in the end chest. Mini Pets like the Panda are bad for the game, tbh.
Tender Wolf
I do like the idea of the candy cane/wintergreen weapons and the mini polar bear in the end chest (rare chances of course). That would help.
Also, I thought of another idea for a way to clear this - what about Daze or Disease? Would that be effective? *goes to try*
Also, I thought of another idea for a way to clear this - what about Daze or Disease? Would that be effective? *goes to try*
MisterB
[skill]Barrage[/skill] + [skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill]
Try it. They die. Blowing them up is better than spreading conditions, and faster, too.
Try it. They die. Blowing them up is better than spreading conditions, and faster, too.
Channel_V93
How does I bad at this game?
Idk ask tender wolf
Idk ask tender wolf
Shadowmoon
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Originally Posted by Faer
A dungeon that can be completed in less than ten minutes, consistently, and with minimal effort, shouldn't give out decent rewards. Even Candy Canes are a bit too high class for that nonsense. |
yeah the difficulty really deserved a 100+ armbrace mini