A good PvE Dom Build?
KalleDamos
I've been playing Mesmer for awhile. Always seemed interesting. I took to Illusion very quickly because there is less thought and timing neede there. After nearly a year of Just illusion, I want to try domination for PvE. Now I'm not looking for something heavy in interupts. I tend to end up spamming interupts if I have too many, don't like doing that. Any suggestions?
Painbringer
What is your secondary?
Do you want just a standard Mesmer build?
PVE skills? Or the title skills?
Do you want just a standard Mesmer build?
PVE skills? Or the title skills?
KalleDamos
I'm a Monk Secondary, I'm not to high ranked in Luxon, Sunspear or titles to use pve skills effectivly, so looking for just basic mesmer skills in the domination line for PvE play.
Painbringer
I know you said you are a monk but if you get a chance give this a whirl
ME/N
[skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill] [skill]necrosis[/skill][skill]Cry of pain[/skill] Balance in Inspiration or more Domination
I like how these work together in PVE
Necrosis at a low level is still nasty
Sunspear rank 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Damage 40 43 50 53 60 63 70 73 80 83 90
Fun little combo and fast
ME/N
[skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill] [skill]necrosis[/skill][skill]Cry of pain[/skill] Balance in Inspiration or more Domination
I like how these work together in PVE
Necrosis at a low level is still nasty
Sunspear rank 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Damage 40 43 50 53 60 63 70 73 80 83 90
Fun little combo and fast
KalleDamos
Will look into it, thanks
horseradish
Yes, spamming interrupts is tempting, so you're gonna need practice for that.
[skill]Power Spike[/skill] [skill]Power Return[/skill]and [skill]Power Drain[/skill] are some of my favorites. (funny, they all have power in them lol)
What are the campaigns that you have?
[skill]Power Spike[/skill] [skill]Power Return[/skill]and [skill]Power Drain[/skill] are some of my favorites. (funny, they all have power in them lol)
What are the campaigns that you have?
Painbringer
Never gave you a straight Mes build
Mes/Monk no pve skills no special title skills Hefty spike as well
[skill]enchanter's conundrum[/skill] [skill]Shatter Delusions[/skill] [skill]Power spike[/skill] [skill]Empathy[/skill] [skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill] [skill]Drain enchantment[/skill] [skill]Ether feast[/skill] [skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]
Mes/Monk no pve skills no special title skills Hefty spike as well
[skill]enchanter's conundrum[/skill] [skill]Shatter Delusions[/skill] [skill]Power spike[/skill] [skill]Empathy[/skill] [skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill] [skill]Drain enchantment[/skill] [skill]Ether feast[/skill] [skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]
KalleDamos
Thanks for the build pain, as for what campaigns I have, all of them.
Terraban
"good" "PvE" and "Dom(which suggests the use of mesmer)" cannot exist in the same sentence.
Utaku
In hex heavy areas, a Hex eater vortex mesmer is gud.
smilingscar
I have found [skill]echo[/skill] to be my biggest friend as a pve dom mesmer. It makes me more versatile, especially because I usually end up trying to do two things at once.
Painbringer
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Thanks for the build pain, as for what campaigns I have, all of them.
Side note for Mesmer’s in PVE you must know what you are against. I ran a Mesmer from scratch using only Mesmer skills and have made it thru all campaigns (have not done EOTN with Mesmer only skills PVE skills to tempting). I constantly changed my build do to the foes I would meet. If it is a heavy caster area disruption/backfires, heavy melee area empathy or illusion. I even ran "when I knew in advance that foes would be in tight corridors" I would run chaos storm X 2 with echo. Sounds crazy but if the foes have no where to run Chaos storm x 2 makes mince meat out of them.
h9dlb
I was gonna ask the same question as the OP.
I take Gwen Hero as a dom/monk mesmer wherever I go in PvE but thought it was time to hone up her skills.
I am a Warrior and the other heroes I use are a Fire ele nuker and an MM. I have all 4 campaigns.
This is the build I'm using:-
[skill]Enchanter's conundrum[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Diversion[/skill][skill]Shatter Hex[/skill][skill]Cry of frustration[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Judge's Insight[/skill]
Tips appreciated - Thx
I take Gwen Hero as a dom/monk mesmer wherever I go in PvE but thought it was time to hone up her skills.
I am a Warrior and the other heroes I use are a Fire ele nuker and an MM. I have all 4 campaigns.
This is the build I'm using:-
[skill]Enchanter's conundrum[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Diversion[/skill][skill]Shatter Hex[/skill][skill]Cry of frustration[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Judge's Insight[/skill]
Tips appreciated - Thx
ShadowsRequiem
I wouldnt recommend putting HP on a mesmers bar....
Depends what you want to play :P I find interrupting is a lot of fun in pve and pvp.
Also warrior hate for areas with lots of melee monsters. Cluminess and Inetpitude
Depends what you want to play :P I find interrupting is a lot of fun in pve and pvp.
Also warrior hate for areas with lots of melee monsters. Cluminess and Inetpitude
LouAl
It's been hinted at a little here, but use skills that do damage fast or stop damage now. PvE is too fast for anything that doesn't meet this criteria. Also, know your foes and exploit them.
I personally run some of the following when playing Dom PvE:
Backfire
Empathy
Energy Burn/Surge
Mistrust
Power Spike
Shatter Enchantment/Hex
Spiritual Pain
Wastrel's Worry (in some situations...)
Wastrel's Demise
Visions of Regret
Hex Eater Vortex
Hex Breaker
I generally have a hard time picking my elite for Dom PvE because it seems like none of them work exceptionally well for PvE or my play style (as opposed to Illusion where there are too many good choices). I still like Mantra of Recovery, even though it got the crap nerfed out of it back in the day, it really helps to offset some of the long recharge times. Energy Drain also works well since you are going to be running through a TON of energy.
I almost always bring either Power Drain or Drain Enchantment, or both, to help offset the energy costs (especially when using Recovery).
Also, and this is very important, DON'T let people tell you that you should never have higher than 14 in Dom, it's a load of crap. Only go to 14 if you are using E-Surge/Burn, obviously, but if you are using any of the rest as your main skills (those that I listed anyway), it just makes stuff die faster to go to 15 or 16.
I personally run some of the following when playing Dom PvE:
Backfire
Empathy
Energy Burn/Surge
Mistrust
Power Spike
Shatter Enchantment/Hex
Spiritual Pain
Wastrel's Worry (in some situations...)
Wastrel's Demise
Visions of Regret
Hex Eater Vortex
Hex Breaker
I generally have a hard time picking my elite for Dom PvE because it seems like none of them work exceptionally well for PvE or my play style (as opposed to Illusion where there are too many good choices). I still like Mantra of Recovery, even though it got the crap nerfed out of it back in the day, it really helps to offset some of the long recharge times. Energy Drain also works well since you are going to be running through a TON of energy.
I almost always bring either Power Drain or Drain Enchantment, or both, to help offset the energy costs (especially when using Recovery).
Also, and this is very important, DON'T let people tell you that you should never have higher than 14 in Dom, it's a load of crap. Only go to 14 if you are using E-Surge/Burn, obviously, but if you are using any of the rest as your main skills (those that I listed anyway), it just makes stuff die faster to go to 15 or 16.
Epinephrine
Shatter Delusion pairs well with the Enchanter's Conundrum, or with Web of Disruption - if you were going to use either of those.
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Tyla
MoI+PvE spells imo, with empathy 
Dean Harper
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Originally Posted by Terraban
"good" "PvE" and "Dom(which suggests the use of mesmer)" cannot exist in the same sentence.
[skill]Hex Eater Vortex[/skill] + [skill]Shatter Hex[/skill]
gg
gg
Terraban
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[skill]Hex Eater Vortex[/skill] + [skill]Shatter Hex[/skill]
gg 2 skills that have a slight use in specific situations is "gg"?
gg 2 skills that have a slight use in specific situations is "gg"?
Dean Harper
lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
upier
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lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
My N/Me thought that was nice - but then switched to N/Mo with Divert, Aegis, PS and a condition removal because it was better!
Utaku
Well, you can't really compare a midliner with a backliner I guess.
upier
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Well, you can't really compare a midliner with a backliner I guess.
8 people in a party.
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary ....
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary ....
Utaku
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8 people in a party.
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary .... Who cares if a necro has passive e-management?
The OP's question was "what can I do with my mesmer in pve", and HEV is one of the options. It's pretty situationnal, but there are tons of zones with hexes (FoW, torment, southern shiverpeaks, echovald forest for instance). And of course, if hexes are uncommun, use another build!
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary .... Who cares if a necro has passive e-management?
The OP's question was "what can I do with my mesmer in pve", and HEV is one of the options. It's pretty situationnal, but there are tons of zones with hexes (FoW, torment, southern shiverpeaks, echovald forest for instance). And of course, if hexes are uncommun, use another build!
upier
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Originally Posted by Utaku
The OP's question was "what can I do with my mesmer in pve", and HEV is one of the options. It's pretty situationnal, but there are tons of zones with hexes (FoW, torment, southern shiverpeaks, echovald forest for instance). And of course, if hexes are uncommun, use another build!
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Originally Posted by Dean Harper
lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
made it sound like it's made of WIN!
It's really good for a mesmer. And I think that says it all.
Pyro maniac
[skill]Glyph of Renewal[/skill] as elite imo
skakid9090
Just use MoR cry of pain and stop sucking =)
Dean Harper
Damn, HEV got nerfed.... really sucks...
Estic
Do we really have to have this debate in every mesmer thread?
Kattar
If upier posts, then yes.
Clarissa F
Upier=flame bait necro troll.
Mesmers won't have a dominant build for all situations. If you want to do mindless c-space play, be a SS nuker. If you can tie your own shoes, you can figure out ways to cause plenty of damage and cause chaos for the enemy. [skill]cry of pain[/skill] can fit on any bar. The condition is easy to meet, and the rank for Sunspear is among the easiest to meet for useful damage. [skill]cry of frustration[/skill] gives AoE interrupt AND damage. If you just want damage, [skill]arcane echo[/skill] and [skill]energy surge[/skill] will dish out some nice AoE damage. Throw in an e-management skill like [skill]power drain[/skill] and you can do plenty of damage as a Domination mesmer, as well as cause chaos through interrupts. PS: [skill]guilt[/skill] is good if you want to keep it in the Domination line.
MarxF
As a mesmer you need to abuse enemy behaviour.
-Empathy -Backfire Those two skills you will find handy in all situations. Another good skill of course is MoR. HEV lost it´s value in PvP as it is more balanced now. You´ll need some e-management: -Power Drain -Drain Enchantment Now of course you will need a ress: -Signets work; but given fast casting maybe take another hard ress like Flesh of my Flesh And last but not least: -Necrosis -Cry of Pain Both Sunspear PvE skills that dish out so much damage it´s hilarious. Note: you can´t take a hard ress if you have Necrosis. Imo you should just go signets anyway, you shouldn´t die in PvE anyway (at least not in NM) viens87
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Originally Posted by h9dlb
I was gonna ask the same question as the OP.
I take Gwen Hero as a dom/monk mesmer wherever I go in PvE but thought it was time to hone up her skills. I am a Warrior and the other heroes I use are a Fire ele nuker and an MM. I have all 4 campaigns. This is the build I'm using:- [skill]Enchanter's conundrum[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Diversion[/skill][skill]Shatter Hex[/skill][skill]Cry of frustration[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Judge's Insight[/skill] Tips appreciated - Thx this build realy sux .. because they get problems of nrg !!
Magikarp
minus upier and terrabans ubertrolling...
mesmers are really a more experienced player class. they have a great way of being able to adapt to any situation skill choice wise, and in order to do that, you'll need to have some extent of know-how about the games monsters/locations ect. as a fan of mesmers i'll admit when we're outclassed at times, but what egotist seem to forget, is that all classes are inefficient or "outclassed" at times. i play warrior way more than mes, and im not as great in EVERY situation at EVERY time (although we are pretty versitile, and really able to do just about anything..) just test out skills, try out new things, mix and match professions often, and try to have fun with it. its a game.. although for some.. an ego trip
Terraban
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but what egotist seem to forget, is that all classes are inefficient or "outclassed" at times
Paragons are "outclassed" when up against Vocal Minority with stacked hexes. That happens with one kind of monster...Good ol' Dreadgaze Dryder's. Undead in NF to a lesser extent. Quote:
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