BMP for sale
Croco Clouds
I think u guys now know how it feels to see someone /unsigned the BMP petition thread...
Bazompora
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
lol console never mind. all console FPS are /fail compared to mouse and keyboard
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But ... back on topic:
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Originally Posted by ViniousBlade
If the BMP was a big "thank you" to those who bought stuff in the online store during the promotion, than it's fair to say that selling it now is a big "F#*k you" to us now.
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flclisgreat
well i want to upgrade to CE on all campaigns. who wouldn't pay 5 bucks to Anet to get a kuuna?
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Bazompora
It might seem so from your point of view, but not releasing it at retailers would be an even bigger <to say it in your wordings> "F#*k you" to us, who have been purchasing all the GW releases through retailers all this time.
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Did ANet lie to you? No.
Did ANet charge you more? No.
Did you miss out on the casing for GW:EN? No.
Did you try empathising from our point of view? No.
Chris Blackstar
this just another slap in the face by Anet, thanks, thanks for nothing. Anet should gives us the option to buy GW:EOTN for 10 bucks also. All of us who made online purchases sacrfiiced not having a collecters box, or a box in general. I know I like to collect them.
Forget GW2, if this is any indication of how Anet does business, you just lost a customer, and I hope I am not the only one.
I have a feeling GW2 will be an exact copt of GW in almost every aspect except you will have different races and a new story. After a couple of months the same BS will start with skill balance BS and what not crap. All because of complainers.
The only way Anet will win me back is to never balance anything again, and keep PvP and PvE seprated, also not to give in to pressure, or to offer something to loyal fans.
What Anet should have done was extend the BMP offer and made people buy an online pack, or purchase GW:EN
Forget GW2, if this is any indication of how Anet does business, you just lost a customer, and I hope I am not the only one.
I have a feeling GW2 will be an exact copt of GW in almost every aspect except you will have different races and a new story. After a couple of months the same BS will start with skill balance BS and what not crap. All because of complainers.
The only way Anet will win me back is to never balance anything again, and keep PvP and PvE seprated, also not to give in to pressure, or to offer something to loyal fans.
What Anet should have done was extend the BMP offer and made people buy an online pack, or purchase GW:EN
Mr_Cynical
I was one of the people who bought GW:EN from the online store because of this promotion, and I still think this is a brilliant idea. Had I bought the game from an online shop, it would have cost me £17.99 - buying it from the online store cost me £24.99 (difference of £7). So let's see what that got me:
Are all of those benefits worth £1.01 to me? Hell yes. Well done to Arenanet for selling the Bonus Pack - locking people who are either too young to get a credit card, or live in a country where they aren't common (can't remember which one it was, but it was a European country where Guild Wars is officially sold) out of these brilliant pieces of Guild Wars nostalgia was a stupid decision in the first place.
Let me put it simply: if ArenaNet had told me at the time of the promotion that the BMP would go on sale in the circumstances that it is, I would still have done the promotion. Well done Anet!
There was no GW:EN collectors edition.
The Wintersday hats were re-offered because a screwup on ArenaNet's part meant that some servers failed to record the fact that people had received hats, and resulted in them losing their hats, bonus items and the candy cane shards they had bet in the minigame. The fact that people who hadn't been at the festival were able to get hats was a side-effect, the primary intention was to enable people who had attended the event to get the hats they would have had if ArenaNet's servers had been working properly.
- I got the Bonus Pack, which will be selling for £5.99, for free (so in reality I only paid £1.01 more for the game, since otherwise I would have bought the bonus mission pack)
- I got to play GW:EN as soon as I got up on the day of release, rather than hoping it would be delivered on time (which 3 out of 3 times it hadn't been for the campaigns)
- I got to play the Bonus Mission Pack on the day of release and participate in all the discussions in forums and in my guild about how great the missions are and what parts of them I'd done
- My characters have had relatively easy access to some gorgeous, max damage req9 weapons almost two months earlier than they otherwise would have
- I was able to play the fantastic Bonus Pack missions during my holiday, and before they were a completely routine part of GW like they are now (fully documented on Wiki etc.)
Are all of those benefits worth £1.01 to me? Hell yes. Well done to Arenanet for selling the Bonus Pack - locking people who are either too young to get a credit card, or live in a country where they aren't common (can't remember which one it was, but it was a European country where Guild Wars is officially sold) out of these brilliant pieces of Guild Wars nostalgia was a stupid decision in the first place.
Let me put it simply: if ArenaNet had told me at the time of the promotion that the BMP would go on sale in the circumstances that it is, I would still have done the promotion. Well done Anet!
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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
this just another slap in the face by Anet, thanks, thanks for nothing. Anet should gives us the option to buy GW:EOTN for 10 bucks also. All of us who made online purchases sacrfiiced not having a collecters box
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Hmmm, first the Wintersday hats get offered for free after Wintersday, and now this.
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Tyla
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Originally Posted by Mr_Cynical
There was no GW:EN collectors edition.
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Dev121
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
No it wouldn't.
Did ANet lie to you? No. Did ANet charge you more? No. Did you miss out on the casing for GW:EN? No. Did you try empathising from our point of view? No. |
Kityn
Anet has done more for the player community than any other gaming company and this is how 'so called loyal players' treat them. I am totally disgusted with the lack of maturity from many of the GW community. Anet at no time ever said that the BMP will not be offered at a later date. Nor was it implied. You people had assumed that to be so. Guess what? That is your fault and not Anets. Anet has done an outstanding job to make the GW players happy as a whole. And all of this bitching and moaning is a slap in the face to the greatest bunch of people that made this wonderful game.
Dev121
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Originally Posted by czymann
Anet has done more for the player community than any other gaming company and this is how 'so called loyal players' treat them. I am totally disgusted with the lack of maturity from many of the GW community. Anet at no time ever said that the BMP will not be offered at a later date. Nor was it implied. You people had assumed that to be so. Guess what? That is your fault and not Anets. Anet has done an outstanding job to make the GW players happy as a whole. And all of this bitching and moaning is a slap in the face to the greatest bunch of people that made this wonderful game.
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Anet suck at maintaining games i'm afraid to tell you.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Werent you one of the flamers from the BMP petetion thread declaring that you should be only one to get it? Stop crying, get over it, move on.
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I miss out on the case AND I have been cheated.
I shouldn't be the only one to get it - same with all others who qualified but the point is now: PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE BEEN LIED TO.
If they didn't offer it in such a stupid way, this debate wouldn't have even been started.
And maybe that's what the "sell BMP seperate" QQ'ers should have done.
Especially since the majority complained that it was extra playable content, but judging from their posts they only wanted this, as a weapons pack.
Infact - I say stop the weapons from it.
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Anet suck at maintaining games i'm afraid to tell you.
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Kityn
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Have you been playing guild wars?
Anet suck at maintaining games i'm afraid to tell you. |
One thing that people overlook. People at Anet actually play the game and do not sit on thier asses and do nothing. They try to find bots,exploits and bugs. They test out skills and builds. There is only so much they can do. They depend on the community for help in these areas. The community instead are full of selfish, ignorant and mean people who care for nothing and no one except what they want to make their character 'Better' than anyone else.
These types of people will stab their own Guildmates in the back. They cheat in AB. They abuse exploits. They verbally abuse other players. List goes on.
I am glad that the BMP will be made available for purchase for those at the time could not get it for FREE.
Keep up the great work Anet. I for one will be purchasing more games from you in the future.
flclisgreat
you know what. i wouldn't even have 1 problem with them selling it (even though i was "cheated" out of my GW:En box) if all the QQ'ers wanted it for the story's themselves. they don't they want it for the kick ass weapon skins. how is that different from the /dancenew or the glowing hands from prophecies SE?
Tyla
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
how is that different from the /dancenew or the glowing hands from prophecies SE?
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That's how it is different.
Bazompora
tyla salanari, I can answer for myself, thank you!
Yes it would, because in none of them cases would you ever be left out of content, while we would be if Arenanet doesn't make the BMP available at retailers.
It seemed they were backing out of their customer service, when they made the BMP available for only a portion of their customers. But now it seems like the trust will be restored.
They will, as you got the BMP for free.
No and nobody put that casing out of your reach either.
Yes I do; but you're in no way fair, when asking for our share of the service to be sacrificed.
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No it wouldn't.
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Did ANet lie to you?
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Did ANet charge you more?
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Did you miss out on the casing for GW:EN?
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Did you try empathising from our point of view?
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Dev121
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Originally Posted by czymann
I have been playing GW since the beginning. When I heard about the type of technology that Anet was going to use for GW, I knew that this game was going to constantly evolve. I like each and every change that has been made up to this point and I know many people who do as well. It keeps the game fresh and new. Anet does not suck at maintaining this game at all. It is your own perception of the things you did not like that makes you think that. Anet has done everything to try and make the community happy as a whole and the community just spit in their faces wanting more.
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Loot scaling
6 Man HA
Exploitable bugs
Sucky over-hyped expansion
Complete abadon of the current game
Sucky suppourt team
Lack of player with player gaming due to their crap decisions
Heres me wondering ' Why do less and less people play Guild Wars'
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Bazompora
Yes it would, because in none of them cases would you be left out of content, while we would be if Arenanet doesn't make the BMP available at retailers.
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It costed more on the online store.
Therefore that extra pricing = buying BMP...cept it costed more.
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Underage and parents won't do it? Cash Cards.
Last time i checked - you CAN get pre-payed cash cards aswell.
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You could of gotten the BMP aswell and the only person stopping you is yourself.
Much like people who bought GW:EN online.
YOU have not been cheated out of your loyalty.
Dev121
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Again: NO WE DIDN'T.
It costed more on the online store. Therefore that extra pricing = buying BMP...cept it costed more. |
Elisa
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Originally Posted by Bazompora
No and nobody put that casing out of your reach either
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Tyla
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
PROMOTIONAL = YOU DID NOT PAY FOR IT.
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Dante the Warlord
Yes, its not fair that they get the BMP now, but then again im going to say the same thing i said against selling it again LIFES UNFAIR. I knew the BMP would be offered again and im not extremely upset. Anet needs money and this is a great way, in fact this was very smart for them since it will bring quite a bit of money to them. New players who saw the new skins and such will jump on it, nearly everyone will have the BMP and ANET can work on making the rest og GW more fun with the money they get.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord
Anet needs money and this is a great way, in fact this was very smart for them since it will bring quite a bit of money to them.
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If they sold it as a Mission Pack - they would of probably made more and put up chances of moneymaking during future....promotions.
Again: If they sold this on the online store as an open sort of thing, no QQing would of occurrd.
Bazompora
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
we are still left out of physical content.
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO BUY ON THE ONLINE STORE.
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
YOUR IGNORANCE DOES NOT COMPENSATE THIS ARGUMENT.
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And your argument was fault.
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And nobody put the BMP out of your reach either.
Underage and parents won't do it? Cash Cards. Last time i checked - you CAN get pre-payed cash cards aswell. |
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Like when you asking on our share.
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You could of gotten the BMP aswell and the only person stopping you is yourself.
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My question to you now is: what gain do you have in attempting to harm the interests of your fellow GW customers?
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
If they sold this on the online store as an open sort of thing, no QQing would of occurrd.
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freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Reler
So it won't be special anymore... What is the bonus now?
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And concidering you got the BMP free by spending £17.99 in the store, you cant really complain since we have to actually pay for it!
Anyway this is great news and also intended from the start!
Anet gets everyone excited about the BMP, makes us think we missed the chance to get it.... then we all winge about it and demand it and hype it even more....
....then surprise, surprise they sell it in the store as a single item and ship it into a select high street stores!
These people arent stupid, Clever Anet!!!!!!!! Atleast the price looks reasonable to!
flclisgreat
i have the solution. all the people who buy the BMP, don't get the weapons.
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
i have the solution. all the people who buy the BMP, don't get the weapons.
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If anything, it would only cause more problems, and only reinforces the idea that those of you whining that other people are getting it, just don't want anyone else to get the new skins.
flclisgreat
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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
That's been suggested many times before and is frankly, stupid.
If anything, it would only cause more problems, and only reinforces the idea that those of you whining that other people are getting it, just don't want anyone else to get the new skins. |
Bazompora
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
honestly isn't that how its f*cking supposed to be? people who bought the SE got stuff the rest didn't. people who spent $30 in the in-game store got something the rest shouldn't be able to get, but will be able to.
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flclisgreat
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Originally Posted by Bazompora
And why shouldn't they?
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honestly, the people who had the ability to buy it and didn't cause they didn't know about the weapons(no one did, so those who did buy it wanted it for the story) its there own fault, they shouldn't be able to get it. those that couldn't (aka Europe) should be allowed to buy it
Coloneh
fail anet. im disappointed.
why are you punishing customers who bother to read the announcement about the BMP the first time?
good job giving up to all the whiners and illiterates.
you dont get a sticker anet.
why are you punishing customers who bother to read the announcement about the BMP the first time?
good job giving up to all the whiners and illiterates.
you dont get a sticker anet.
Death By Ketchup
I don't see what your crying about, so the rest of us get it. you had it for 2 months before the rest of us, and dont use the excuse that we got the box, who cares, if you had the box it would just be collecting dust like our box. And personally I would rather spend my own money then use a credit company and have to pay them back double later. >.>
freekedoutfish
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because they did the promotion, and bought $30 worth of whatever through the in-game store.
honestly, the people who had the ability to buy it and didn't cause they didn't know about the weapons(no one did, so those who did buy it wanted it for the story) its there own fault, they shouldn't be able to get it. those that couldn't (aka Europe) should be allowed to buy it |
Did you honestly think Anet would NEVER actually release the BMP as a stand alone add on to purchase seperately? If you did, then you were kidding yourself. It was a blatent marketting technique to entice us in.
Dont get piss'd of now just because you bought GWEN from the online store for more then those of us who got it from play.com or alike for cheaper. All so you could get the BMP the instant it was released.
It was obvious it would eventually be sold as a seperate item and now you feel ripped off. You should have waited and bought GWEN for cheaper elsewhere!
Anet isnt going to limit the weapons to those who bought the BMP during the promotion because it would caused outrage! Just get used to the fact you bought GWEN from Anets store for alot more then you had to...
...Ill try not to laugh!
Anet is likely to do a lot of stuff in the next 12-24 months to keep the community happy and will impliment a lot of things we have asked for, just do do it! This is just the first of many.
flclisgreat
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We didnt know about the weapons until AFTER the BMP had been promoted and the offer was over!
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my point exactly. no one knew about the weapons so everyone shrugged it off and said "who gives a flying how Gwen escaped?" well those of us that did care payed for it to find out. on release everyone saw the sweet skins and started QQ'ing. just for that reason alone it shouldn't be sold to anyone who had access to it. all they want are the weapons
Phaern Majes
If you did the promotion then quit complaining thats 10$ you never had to spend and never will have to spend. If you want to bitch about something then bitch about why Anet isn't offering the EotN box for 10$. That is the ONLY thing you are truly out. And thats assuming you wouldn't of bought it online anyways.
willypiggy
Well I cba reading this whole thread so here is my opinion:
1. I played for eotn from a retail store as I like having the casing (I always loved the care that goes into a guild wars game manual etc.) and I payed more than I would have if I were to buy it form the in-game store (only like 50 pence more) and I lost out on the Bonus Mission pack. This didn't bother me as I am not a hardcore lore fan, I do like the lore but would prefer to have the physical item.
2. You sacrificed the right to have the physical item by buying form the in-game store. EVERY business I know about is out there to make money, If they can make money by selling the BMP then why shouldn't they?
3. Anet/NCSoft NEVER said that the BMP would be exclusive, just that it would be a free edition, they never stated it would be released at a later date or anything like that.
So to sum up, Stop QQ'ing over a something you did (Buying from the in-game store) and start pew pew'ing in the satisfaction that you got the BMP a lot sooner than those who want the physical item. Oh, and before anyone asks, I WILL be buying it from my local game store and laughing at EVERYONE who complains about not getting a physical item. Next-time use your brain.
1. I played for eotn from a retail store as I like having the casing (I always loved the care that goes into a guild wars game manual etc.) and I payed more than I would have if I were to buy it form the in-game store (only like 50 pence more) and I lost out on the Bonus Mission pack. This didn't bother me as I am not a hardcore lore fan, I do like the lore but would prefer to have the physical item.
2. You sacrificed the right to have the physical item by buying form the in-game store. EVERY business I know about is out there to make money, If they can make money by selling the BMP then why shouldn't they?
3. Anet/NCSoft NEVER said that the BMP would be exclusive, just that it would be a free edition, they never stated it would be released at a later date or anything like that.
So to sum up, Stop QQ'ing over a something you did (Buying from the in-game store) and start pew pew'ing in the satisfaction that you got the BMP a lot sooner than those who want the physical item. Oh, and before anyone asks, I WILL be buying it from my local game store and laughing at EVERYONE who complains about not getting a physical item. Next-time use your brain.
Croco Clouds
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Originally Posted by Death By Ketchup
I don't see what your crying about, so the rest of us get it. you had it for 2 months before the rest of us, and dont use the excuse that we got the box, who cares, if you had the box it would just be collecting dust like our box. And personally I would rather spend my own money then use a credit company and have to pay them back double later. >.>
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My box is in recycling/manufacturing plant now...
freekedoutfish
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my point exactly. no one knew about the weapons so everyone shrugged it off and said "who gives a flying how Gwen escaped?" well those of us that did care payed for it to find out. on release everyone saw the sweet skins and started QQ'ing. just for that reason alone it shouldn't be sold to anyone who had access to it. all they want are the weapons
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I want the new missions and extra lure or loore, how ever you spell that. The weapons would just be a nice touch because my character doesnt have many different ones. Also being a long running customer of Anet's and having spent A LOT of money on them over the years I feel I deserve those weapons as much as the next person.
GWEN wasnt much of a "thank you" from Anet, and the BMP will make up for it IMO to a small extent.
But its just not far to hold back the weapons from people just because they didnt purchase the BMP during the promotion. Thats purely spite and makes no sense!
The BMP is one product. You cant pull it apart and give bits to some and not to the rest, otherwise your giving a non-complete product to some customers and a full one to the rest. Its just unfair and not a good PR move.
flclisgreat
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Its just unfair and not a good PR move.
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and what they did was?
Lord Sojar
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I dont want the weapons desperately!
I want the new missions and extra lure or loore, how ever you spell that. The weapons would just be a nice touch because my character doesnt have many different ones. But its just not far to hold back the weapons from people just because they didnt purchase the BMP during the promotion. Thats purely spite and nothing more. |
This would be the same thing as if ANET offered the Prophecies CE glow in the online store because the promotion didn't target enough people. It is wrong. Just like selling the BMP is wrong. People who acted on it by supporting the company before it was even released, trusting ANET did a great job with it should be rewarded. Why do all the people who didn't have their full trust get to purchase it, and for 10 USD nonetheless. Shame I say! You didn't put your confidence in ANET to make it worth acting on during the promotion. Well I say, you snooze, you lose. Guess ANET doesn't have respect for those that support them even without evidence.
fowlero
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Or that is real life. Promotions are just, promotional. ANET offering the BMP is a complete backstab to those who supported their company during the "limited" promotion. It is like saying "Hey thanks for your great support, but now we are going to go ahead and make this limited promotion not so limited anymore."
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However I wasn't of age to have a credit/debit card at that time, my parents refuse to purchase across the internet, it would be suspect to most people if a 17year old asks to borrow their card, there are pre paid cash cards however they only work in the plaync store which is useless.
This alienated me (and others) from content i would happily of purchased, which i believe is a stab in the back to the masses that support them through retail stores.
The collectors editions were just that, not promotions, and if it really does bug you if you look hard enough you can still find them in the vast realms of the interweb.