Newb Question (Advise for a Build)

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

I am using a Necro (curses)/Mes (Domination) PVE character, what is a good build involving curses and interrupts?

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

Look around for various Spiteful Spirit builds. They are mostly to punish and work against physical attackers.

If you want something to counter casters, consider Pain Inverter (Asura), Backfire (Dom). Bring whatever interrupt to your taste.

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Find any random SS build then toss in [skill]Power Return[/skill]

Cheap quick interrupt. It gives the enemy energy, but that's completely harmless in pve.

If you're pro, equip D-shot and bow swap to use it.....well, i wouldn't recommend that it is fun in pvp though

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

^ What he said.

The original post inspired me to update the sticky.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Depending on what campaign(s) you own.

When only Prophecies was out:

[skill]spiteful spirit[/skill][skill]parasitic bond[/skill][skill]empathy[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]shame[/skill][skill]desecrate enchantments[/skill][skill]insidious parasite[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

I sometimes swap shame for guilt or backfire or power leak. Back then Soul reaping gave you enough energy all the time.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

The mesmer skills you should be considering for a general SS build are either:

1) Unlinked
2) Requiring zero investment in the attribute to be effective

Speccing hard into a third attribute will weaken your build considerably.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
The mesmer skills you should be considering for a general SS build are either:

1) Unlinked
2) Requiring zero investment in the attribute to be effective

Speccing hard into a third attribute will weaken your build considerably. Now adays, yes. Since with the changes to Soul Reaping and the availability of other spells. Since the OP didn't specify what campaign(s) he/she has access to I gave an example of a build I used to run back when Prophecies was the only thing available.

signet of disruption is a good skill to use. I still don't like using arcane echo as it is too energy consuming for my tastes. Of course getting skills like Cry of Frustration and Signet of Lost Souls are good too.

Interupts are just that, you don't really need to invest heavily on domination magic just to interupt. Swap Empathy for Cry of Frustration (stopping those nasty troll ungents and healing sigs).

Xylia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Pond [pond]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
The mesmer skills you should be considering for a general SS build are either:

1) Unlinked
2) Requiring zero investment in the attribute to be effective

Speccing hard into a third attribute will weaken your build considerably. I disagree. It is perfectly feasible to run an SS build at curses 11+3+1, SR 10+1, Domination or Inspiration 10.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xylia
I disagree. It is perfectly feasible to run an SS build at curses 11+3+1, SR 10+1, Domination or Inspiration 10. but would you do it, power return just is a cheap interupt wich has the fastest recharge of non-elite interupts

same reason why Power return is good in PvE, is that Power Leak is bad in PvE.
And with Soul Reaping you won't need inspiration interupts

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

It's feasible but what skills would you use?

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xylia
I disagree. It is perfectly feasible to run an SS build at curses 11+3+1, SR 10+1, Domination or Inspiration 10. Attribute-wise, of course, it won't make much of a difference, and 11 in SR is more than enough. What it will do is encourage you to bring unviable mesmer spells (such as Empathy and Backfire) at a poor attribute spec into PvE.

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
If you're pro, equip D-shot and bow swap to use it.....well, i wouldn't recommend that it is fun in pvp though OMG you are really really bad. D-shot on a necro??? WOW! I think you are confusing the word "pro" for mentally retarded...
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To "correctly" answer the OP, try this build:

Power spike is 5 energy now...
[skill]Power Spike[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Arcane Echo[/skill][skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]barbs[/skill][skill]mark of pain[/skill][skill]enfeebling blood[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
You don't need a ton into domination to make this build work.
Curses --> 12+1+1
Soul Reaping --> 10+1
Inspiration --> 8 or 7
Domination --> whatever is left over

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

Thanks guys, I have access to all campaigns. This really helps, I didn't want to start buying skills before I got some advice.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Just a though since this is PVE have you thought about the

Necrosis and Wastrels worry?

They are a good low energy dmg set Cast you ss and then bast targets with the above skills Balance in intturpt and a heal skill

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

Quick question guys, I'm wanting an interrupt that will interrupt a Norn "Bear Form" skill. I've Tried Power Lock, Power Strike and Signet of Distraction but so far no go...

(Looking for a good skill to interrupt with doing "Mano a Norno".)


Necrosis sounds fun! (I'll have to go to Istan and start getting it). Wastrel's looks great too. Thanks guys@!

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Well since you have EotN, use "You move like a dwarf". It's such a versatile skill. I had it on my bar for a long time even with a very low norn rank. Since it's a shout that KD's, it can be used as an interrupt. Even if you arn't interrupting, it's a good way to defend yourself or other allied casters from melee (since it cripples). I use it often in HM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
OMG you are really really bad. D-shot on a necro??? WOW! I think you are confusing the word "pro" for mentally retarded... Am i doing it wrong? ill try running it on a monk...

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

Thanks, I'll have to go do the Worthy Deeds quest and add it in!

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
OMG you are really really bad. D-shot on a necro??? WOW! I think you are confusing the word "pro" for mentally retarded... D-shot is one of the best interrupts in the game. swapping to a shortbow and firing it off is a perfectly viable strategy, when you don't need your secondary for anything else.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
OMG you are really really bad. D-shot on a necro??? WOW! I think you are confusing the word "pro" for mentally retarded... DShot is one of the best skills in the game and works fine at 0 spec.
If you've an open secondary, it's a fine choice... if a little unorthodox.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Quote:
OMG you are really really bad. D-shot on a necro??? WOW! I think you are confusing the word "pro" for mentally retarded... .

Get over yourself. In the context mentioned above it's clever usage of D-shot and there's nothing retarded about it.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
Quick question guys, I'm wanting an interrupt that will interrupt a Norn "Bear Form" skill. I've Tried Power Lock, Power Strike and Signet of Distraction but so far no go...

(Looking for a good skill to interrupt with doing "Mano a Norno".) You don't need to interrupt it.

You can use anything that states simply "interupts target foe", example is web of disruption leech signet wail of doom and a ton of other things.