Nerfing TNTF and Seed of Life.. but not Ursan..

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Wolala Wagaga
Academy Page
#1
i just started playing my monk again in PvE after not touching her for a couple of months... and i really really missed Seed of life i mean... wtf did anet nerfed those skills... even though they are 'strong'... they are prof specific and not too 'imba'

now.. they introduce ursan.. i hav no objection to it... but at least bring back my beloved seed of life! (i know it wont happen, but i just feel sad )

if anet doesnt care about PvE balance, why did they nerf the two skills... maybe ursan is really NOT over powered i guess??
I Will Heal You Ally
I Will Heal You Ally
Krytan Explorer
#2
Well they did nerf it making the skill touchable. As far as that I don't find ursan so great. Yeah it's a good spike with 4+ people using it but you'll find rarely places where to use it cuz spellcasters needs to be out of aggro when the tank pulls and such and it just doesn't give you that much armor so you can say you're invincible. If you're a tank, mez, sin or any other less used proffesion then this is great for you, but every team needs to have their nukers, ss, monk up and ready to do their job. People using ursanway everywhere are just lazy to make their own build for that area... and not so many got guildies who're willing to help you out. So far the only place I found ursanway was good is UW and FoW and it's just great for having it there cuz now other professions can't complain they can't do anything and that's a really big plus for Anet
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#3
Seed of Life and TNTF continue to be extremely powerful skills. Ursan just breaks the game, and is boring to play. Also, this has been discussed before. Alot.
Turtle222
Turtle222
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
don't worry. Ursan will be nerfed...in time. Think of it like the BMP. Anet wanted enough people to look at the Scribes and historian in the MIDDLE of LA so that they would want it, and offer it again. Same goes for Ursan. When enough people have heard of Ursan, they will be wanting to buy GWEN. THEN anet will nerf it.
garethporlest18
garethporlest18
Forge Runner
#5
I"m sure Ursan will get nerfed more too. Anet is just trying to destroy the economy some more and then have people get a better chance at higher end titles. Because those casual whiners. If you have more real life than game life, then you should suck and fail in game. Same goes the other way around.

Surprised you guys didn't figure that one out yet.
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isildorbiafra
Krytan Explorer
#6
Ursan will not be nerfed. It is the only way average players can vanquish and do hard mode; and with players leaving gw by the hoards allready; they will not nerf it. It makes it possible for solo and unexperienced players to play eotn. And yes it is part of breaking the gw economy and making it all; and i do mean all available to everyone.

It wont be nerfed because there will be no followup expansion afther eotn; so they need to make eotn as atractive as possible.

Think about it. Whats fun in playing a game where there is no exclusivity anymore.

Anet is making shure that when the time comes evreryone buyes gw2!

Just wait and see. Its just a matter of time till kanaxai; panda and polar bears start dropping from high end chests and elite missions!
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by isildorbiafra
Ursan will not be nerfed. It is the only way average players can vanquish and do hard mode; and with players leaving gw by the hoards allready; they will not nerf it. It makes it possible for solo and unexperienced players to play eotn. And yes it is part of breaking the gw economy and making it all; and i do mean all available to everyone.
Why play a game if there is no challenge or anything to aim for? You can roll through Hard Mode while not knowing how to play Guild Wars with PvE skills. There isn't much replay value to the game without the concept of build design and tactics.

I'd say more players are lost to the game being dull, single-player, and grindish than to the game being hard. It is one of the easier games.

This has been discussed into the ground though. I'll leave it open for now.
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isildorbiafra
Krytan Explorer
#8
The value is in dollars. The hard core player has already bought eotn. Anmet needs cash. Now its time to make the game appealing to the average/ casual player that does not want to waste time with skill balance and intrecate builds!

I agree. Ursan makes some builds obsolete and does not apeal to the xp player but thats not the point. The point is cash and attracting new sources of revenue.
Pupu
Pupu
Jungle Guide
#9
ursan is a skill and its here to stay, live with it.

i never use it but i can accept it into the game, why cant you?
Gregslot
Gregslot
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Again with the nerf ursarn, dont nerf ursan thing....
CLOOOSEEEE!!!
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Kabroz the necro
Academy Page
#11
When there wasn't Ursan, lots of people complained when there was hard to find Uw/FoW/Vanquishing group. Ursan made chance for average players to try soem of them. Was pretty happy when done UW cler first time.

Seed of life and TNTF - Why you complain now? TNTF is ok right now, but though seed of life does realy need buff now.

Just leave ALL PvE skills like they are now, no complaining, whinning, trolling, agruing etc.

My advice: Enjoy game! it doesn't matter other people do it, if you hate Ursan - do not use it. Once again this is only a game (unless you are hardcore player)
If you don't enjoy playing... DON'T PLAY!
Turtle222
Turtle222
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabroz the necro
When there wasn't Ursan, lots of people complained when there was hard to find Uw/FoW/Vanquishing group. Ursan made chance for average players to try soem of them. Was pretty happy when done UW cler first time.

Seed of life and TNTF - Why you complain now? TNTF is ok right now, but though seed of life does realy need buff now.

Just leave ALL PvE skills like they are now, no complaining, whinning, trolling, agruing etc.

My advice: Enjoy game! it doesn't matter other people do it, if you hate Ursan - do not use it. Once again this is only a game (unless you are hardcore player)
If you don't enjoy playing... DON'T PLAY!
wise words
Theo Godscythe
Theo Godscythe
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Ok let's nerf Ursan
and let's nerf Necros
and Eles
and Monks
and Warrios
and Mesmerers
and Rits
and everything

Stop your pointless whining and get a LIFE. Without Ursan or "Save Yourselves!" Paragons HARDMODE+VANQUISHIGN WOULD BE A PAIN!
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
Ok let's nerf Ursan
and let's nerf Necros
and Eles
and Monks
and Warrios
and Mesmerers
and Rits
and everything

Stop your pointless whining and get a LIFE. Without Ursan or "Save Yourselves!" Paragons HARDMODE+VANQUISHIGN WOULD BE A PAIN!
Yeah, god forbid difficult things be difficult. We can't have Hard Mode actually being hard, after all.
Surena
Surena
Krytan Explorer
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
Stop your pointless whining and get a LIFE. Without Ursan or "Save Yourselves!" Paragons HARDMODE+VANQUISHIGN WOULD BE A PAIN!
No.

Without retarded PvE-Skills AND with quality AI in mind, Hardmode could have been fun.

See, my friend? I play for fun while you work. Else you wouldn't touch Hardmode at all.

Who needs a life now?
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
Ok let's nerf Ursan
and let's nerf Necros
and Eles
and Monks
and Warrios
and Mesmerers
and Rits
and everything

Stop your pointless whining and get a LIFE. Without Ursan or "Save Yourselves!" Paragons HARDMODE+VANQUISHIGN WOULD BE A PAIN!
Hardmode is not supposed to be hard?
Esan
Esan
Jungle Guide
#17
Having vanquished everything in all four chapters with heroes and hench only and no PvE only skills, I can authoritatively say that these skills are entirely irrelevant. Use them as a crutch if you are a lame player, but realise that what's broken cannot be broken.
trobinson97
trobinson97
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Another Ursan thread. Who's surprised?
upier
upier
Grotto Attendant
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
No.
Without retarded PvE-Skills AND with quality AI in mind, Hardmode could have been fun.
See, my friend? I play for fun while you work. Else you wouldn't touch Hardmode at all.
Who needs a life now?
And until that happens - I'd rather have retarded skills.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
but realise that what's broken cannot be broken.
Aye.
RhanoctJocosa
RhanoctJocosa
Legendary Korean
#20
ANet are not going to nerf Ursan because ANet:

1) are bad
2) understand that there are terrible players in this game who need OP skills to help them beat the harder areas.