Hey there folks, this is the BM build I'm running right now. It works well, but I'm looking for a change. I want to keep running Beast Master, but I would like some new skills. anyways, here is what I'm running.
[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Bestial Pounce[/skill][skill]Bestial Mauling[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Call of Haste[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Heal as One[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
My beast master build. Please Rate
KalleDamos
quickmonty
I like to use the Sunspear title skill Never Rampage Alone as it gives you and pet a 25% speed buff and +3 health regen at r8
Wakka
Not bad as far as pet builds go.
If I were to make any changes I would drop Feral Lunge for [skill=text]Poisonous Bite[/skill] while the damage delt isn't the best, the degen is a lot nicer ^^
Never Rampage Alone could replace Lightning Reflexes but your energy might start to hurt. Although a lot of spells in the build are only 5e so it should work alright considering your Sunspear is high enough (and it should be, if not its easy enough)
But I would give it 7/10
If I were to make any changes I would drop Feral Lunge for [skill=text]Poisonous Bite[/skill] while the damage delt isn't the best, the degen is a lot nicer ^^
Never Rampage Alone could replace Lightning Reflexes but your energy might start to hurt. Although a lot of spells in the build are only 5e so it should work alright considering your Sunspear is high enough (and it should be, if not its easy enough)
But I would give it 7/10
lennymon
Personally I think poisonous bite is one of the worst skills can go on a bar. No offense to those who DO like it, but in my opinion apply poison with 3 in WS goes a lot further ;P
[skill]Predatory Bond[/skill] is really good in a pinch, but with heal as one AND a monk it's unnecessary. As far as attacks go, my faves tend to lean towards the spammable... like [skill]Predator's Pounce[/skill] and [skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill] is IMHO far better than the Bestial Mauling, more utility. If you do decide to try out apply poison, you can't go wrong swapping out LR for Natty Stride.
[skill]Predatory Bond[/skill] is really good in a pinch, but with heal as one AND a monk it's unnecessary. As far as attacks go, my faves tend to lean towards the spammable... like [skill]Predator's Pounce[/skill] and [skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill] is IMHO far better than the Bestial Mauling, more utility. If you do decide to try out apply poison, you can't go wrong swapping out LR for Natty Stride.
Washi
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Originally Posted by lennymon
Personally I think poisonous bite is one of the worst skills can go on a bar. No offense to those who DO like it, but in my opinion apply poison with 3 in WS goes a lot further ;P
As much as I love AP on a Bow build, I have to disagree with you here. Poisonous Bite has zero cast time, and costs much less energy, its a good skill for a beastmaster.
Terraban
If I ever take a Beast Master, he is taking Infuriating Heat to make the good characters better.
lennymon
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Originally Posted by Terraban
If I ever take a Beast Master, he is taking Infuriating Heat to make the good characters better.
Oh! it's on! Is this implying that you feel you are posting something useless? As that's the general take I had on your post as well.
zling
[skill]heal as one[/skill] is fit more towards thumpers and spear chukers that use their pet as a secondary weapon to their own.
as a pure beast master I'd suggest a real beast mastery elite such as [skill]Enraged Lunge[/skill] and [skill]ferocious strike[/skill] think about it this way, a bow ranger usually has a bow attack elite doesnt it? crip shot, BA, BHA, PA, Punishing Shot, whatever else a warrior usually has his weapon mastery's elite doesnt it? DSlash, Crip Slash, Eviscerate, Back Breaker, Devastating Hammer, whatever else thus a beast master who uses his pet as his weapon should use an elite of his "weapon mastery" yes I know that [skill]heal as one[/skill] is also in the beast mastery line but it isnt an attack skill and thus isnt inside the "weapon mastery" category
KalleDamos
Actually when I use a bow ranger, i tend to use things like Melandru's resistance, Melandru's Arrows, Glass Arrows, and praticed stance over the common cookie cutter elites.
Pyro maniac
use a spear with it.
auto attacking on spear does some damage as well
zling
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
second of all for Rangers it is true that Melandru's Arrows and Glass Arrows are also viable elites, when you look closely both of them add considerable damage. however Melandru's Resilence not Resistance is just sub par on any ranger bar and Practiced Stance has a very specific use, like in a Choking Gas Ranger which is so outdated... when you look at the Beast Master, nothing outside the Beast Mastery line can help so you're limited to a Beast Mastery elite, now you need damage so Heal as One is kinda pointless, you're pet will be doing sub par damage and you will contribute 0 dmg to it... Rampage as One is the only elite that you should consider if you really dont like Enraged and Ferocious but even that is better on a hybrid(RaO Thumper fcol)
Amy Awien
He did not say all bow elite's are cookie cutters.
I doubt the combo Bestial Pounce / Bestial Mauling will see it's effect often. you have no control over when your pet hits so Pounce would have to accidentally hit when a foe is casting and Mauling - and thus daxe - depends on this condition. I think bringing concussion shot - even with low marks - is a better way to apply daze and you'll free up one slot. Cobalt
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Originally Posted by quickmonty
I like to use the Sunspear title skill Never Rampage Alone as it gives you and pet a 25% speed buff and +3 health regen at r8
The big problem with that skill is the energy cost is way to high for what you get, in fact even if it was 15 it would still be high, thus few bother to uses it.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Terraban
If I ever take a Beast Master, he is taking Infuriating Heat to make the good characters better.
lol. That goes for you never run beastmaster lol.
@cobalt- never rampage alone is better then rampage as one and frees an elite skill for your bar and with a spear and coupled with [skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill] or [skill]Strike as one[/skill] (yeah I know strike as one is garbage but its fun to play with so lay off) it can be quite good. 
Amy Awien
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Originally Posted by Cobalt
The big problem with that skill is the energy cost is way to high for what you get...
Huh, how can you say that? It's energy/duration ratio is similar to Tiger's Fury and Heket's Rampage but without their drawbacks, it is a IAS for both you and your pet and it adds a +3 health regen on top of it all.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Amy Awien
Huh, how can you say that? It's energy/duration ratio is similar to Tiger's Fury and Heket's Rampage but without their drawbacks, it is a IAS for both you and your pet and it adds a +3 health regen on top of it all.
You forgot the frees up an elite. lol
Biostem
If I'm going w/ a beast mastery build, I still would include *some* bow attacks; you are still going to attack, aren't you?
I prefer heal s one since it heals you, your pet, and can rez your pet - it saves you 2-3 slots in that way. As for the sunspear skill, it is affected by expertise, so having a good rating there helps a lot, too. Another thing that I've found to work well, if you have factions, is to take ritualist as your secondary and use skills like nightmare/splinter weapon on you and your pet, and ancestors rage on your pet.
Marverick
If I run Beast Mastery in PvE, I run [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill]. The two are pretty much mutual.
[skill=text]Call of Protection[/skill] [wiki]Feral Aggression[/wiki] [skill=text]Otyugh's Cry[/skill] [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill] [wiki]Great Dwarf Weapon[/wiki] [skill=text]Comfort Animal[/skill] [skill=text]Charm Animal[/skill] [wiki]Sunspear Rebirth Signet[/wiki] You get around 60-70DPS and a 20-40% chance of knocking down the target every time your pet attacks. Use a Zealous Spear to keep up with energy needs. 15-16 Beast Mastery and 13 Expertise. If you're more into interrupting and disabling casters, which I think is what you want with your build, then try something like: [skill]Expert's Dexterity[/skill][skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill] [wiki]Never Rampage Alone[/wiki] is really for pet/weapon hybrids in PvE. Unfortunately, those aren't exactly optimal. Heal as One doesn't save you any slots in PvE... pet heal and rez is already one slot (Comfort Animal) and you don't need a self-heal in PvE as a backline Ranger.
Draginvry
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Bestial Pounce[/skill][skill]Bestial Mauling[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Call of Haste[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Heal as One[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
Not bad, but I find Bestial Pounce hard to use on spells which take less than 2 seconds to cast. I prefer a spearchucker.
[skill]Disrupting Throw[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]never rampage alone[/skill][skill]call of protection[/skill][skill]heal as one[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill] The zero (or one if you use a rune) attribute apply poison meets the requirement for disrupting throw. Use a req9 spear and put everything else in expertise and beast mastery. You can get some good damage from autoattacks, an interrupt every ten seconds, and you can stack poison and bleeding. Fairly effective for most areas. Call of protection is an off skill, replace it with a spear or pet attack if you find yourself having excess energy. Omar_Sharif
Imho better is thins but swap unguent for Great dwraf Weapom
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/any_Tank_Master
Pyro maniac
add 9 spear mastery and use a spear with it
Lourens
whats all this about spears?? why not use a bow and go with distracting shot or something like that ?
lennymon
Just because most people feel that a hybrid is best suited for dps, and those are better with spear/hammer. YMMV (your mileage may vary).
Amy Awien
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Originally Posted by Lourens
whats all this about spears?? why not use a bow and go with distracting shot or something like that ?
KalleDamos
The main reason Heal as One is on my build is that I like to take some presure off the monks by healing myself. I try to have a self heal in every build just in case. Always be prepared kinda thing.
mrmango
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
The main reason Heal as One is on my build is that I like to take some presure off the monks by healing myself. I try to have a self heal in every build just in case. Always be prepared kinda thing.
Prepare better: bring better monks. If they choose to group you for whatever reason (bribery?).
Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail.
System_Crush
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Originally Posted by mrmango
Prepare better: bring better monks. If they choose to group you for whatever reason (bribery?).
Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail. What are you smoking? [skill=text]Heal as One[/skill] is the elite version of [skill=text]Comfort Animal[/skill] all beast masters bring comfort, hence bringing an elite comfort can't be bad. (I may be biased as I primary as a necro and an Elite BotM would the the best thing ever) I'd recon Has1 is not much worse than [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill] and definitely better than [skill=text]Ferocious Strike[/skill] on a class that has access to expertise. Why is heal as 1 good? How many player monks have you met that heal your pets for you? Also this build needs [skill=text]Brutal strike[/skill] 60+ additional damage is the next best thing if you don't bring [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill]. While writing this, I wonder if anyone has ever tried a Expertise, channeling, beast mastery ranger... [wiki]Great Dwarf Weapon[/wiki] is nice for pets with [wiki]Feral Aggression[/wiki] on them. [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and [wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki] might be pretty good on a pet too.
Amy Awien
Unfortunately, channeling only works with spells.
Wakka
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Originally Posted by mrmango
Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail.
/Very much agree.
Whats with all the pet related posts on the forums recently 
Washi
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Originally Posted by Amy Awien
Unfortunately, channeling only works with spells.
I think he is talkin about an attribute not a skill.
Amy Awien
Ah, off course, that channeling, where the neat weapon spells are.
KalleDamos
I've updated my build, it is still for PvE, so here it is.
[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Brutal Strike[/skill][skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Never Rampage Alone[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] 11+1 - Beast mastery 10+1+2 - Expertise 10+1 - Marksmanship Rank 9 Sunspear. And with the double sunspear/lightbringer weekend coming up should hit rank 10 in no time.
lennymon
Without any bow skills to take advantage of your bow (thus relegating it to simple dps) it may be better to consider another weapon which will give better dps at that attribute level. Bows don't really get as good dps as spear for example. But... if you do stick with bow, I'd personally bring distracting shot instead of disrupting lunge for better odds of hitting that critical skill.
quickmonty
You could always take a weapon with +energy.
System_Crush
For a beastmaster I found it pays to bring [wiki]Volley[/wiki] as your only bow skill, with no wilderness survival [wiki]Rapid Fire[/wiki] will be the best preparation you'll get, and a volley spamm does more supportive damage damage than you could with increased attack speed.
[skill=text]Focused Shot[/skill] locks pet attacks right?
Aris the Accurate
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For a beastmaster I found it pays to bring Volley as your only bow skill, with no wilderness survival Rapid Fire will be the best preparation you'll get, and a volley spamm does more supportive damage damage than you could with increased attack speed. | Focused Shot locks pet attacks right? volly with no marksmanship won't be of much support...and rapid fire is fail. even with only putting in leftover spec points I would still take ap. No idea about focused shot..have it but never used it. @Kalle Might wana bring a way to rez your pet..and id take those points out of marks and go spear for faster natural attack and the ability to use a shield for more armor.
KalleDamos
No offence to any who keeps suggesting it, but if I wanted to use a spear, I would be making a P/R... I'm sticking with a bow, i like it, I enjoy the skills, and it means I have to spend less money on gear seeing as I already have a couple bows, and only one spear that is currently being used.
Earth
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
I've updated my build, it is still for PvE, so here it is.
[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Brutal Strike[/skill][skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Never Rampage Alone[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] 11+1 - Beast mastery 10+1+2 - Expertise 10+1 - Marksmanship Rank 9 Sunspear. And with the double sunspear/lightbringer weekend coming up should hit rank 10 in no time. But... Why do you have 11 marksmanship with no bow skills? That's pretty, you know, useless. You say you enjoy the skills, yet you have NO bow skills? I don't know but... Weird. EDIT: And what do you do if your pet dies? You are totally useless when that happens. Atleast bring a way to res it ^^
System_Crush
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Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
volly with no marksmanship won't be of much support...and rapid fire is fail.
He has 11 marksmanship which is plenty for volley.
Also rapid fire will make you do more damage with 11 marksmanship then you could with 10 spear mastery. But if you going to have no weapon related skills what so E4 then spear is indeed better. And it looks like you will need to eject all weapon related skills as you don't even have room for a pet rez ATM.
lennymon
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
No offence to any who keeps suggesting it, but if I wanted to use a spear, I would be making a P/R... I'm sticking with a bow, i like it, I enjoy the skills, and it means I have to spend less money on gear seeing as I already have a couple bows, and only one spear that is currently being used.
None taken, I'm not trying to get you to use a spear just to consider the choices. Since you will be taking a bow, I'd strongly recommend at least trying out both your build with disrupting lunge, and then just swap that for savage or distracting shot. The interrupt potential of a bow is far greater than the pet, with even just one skill and that can't be measured in dps. Don't get me wrong, you've a good build going together there I'm just trying to help you squeeze a lil more into it
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