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Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 17:09 - 1

Ok today's big news about the 117 being banned brings up some memories for me about other exploits we heard about over the years.

So I thought I'd see which ones we all remember and what action (if any) was taken in each case.

I vaguely remember a guild loosing its place in GvG because of an exploit.

There was the whole Sunspear/Lightbring points and afk farming and not killing monks so they rez mobs

The Shrines for afk farming had their NPC taken away so no blessings and the mobs were changed to only count as points for the first time you kill them, but no action was taken against users of the exploit.

Any others?

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Jan 2008 at 17:12 - 2

There was an exploit which gave reputation points for primary EotN quests that allowed people to get rank10 Delver in half an hour.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 17:16 - 3

Duncan...nuff said.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

11 Jan 2008 at 17:19 - 4

Duping
The series of ferries by using GH travel

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 17:22 - 5

I was curious about the duping - what happened - I think i read somewhere the items were deleted?

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 17:24 - 6

Lulz. They weren't, which is why you can still see 2000+ armbrace bids. A few people got banned, but obviously not everyone involved.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 17:27 - 7

well there was the hack/exploit what ever that a person could gain GM level status in the Game...and disconnect others etc..

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

11 Jan 2008 at 17:30 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Lulz. They weren't, which is why you can still see 2000+ armbrace bids. A few people got banned, but obviously not everyone involved.

Looks like a nice chunk of them did this time..(Same 'guild', same 'players'.

/wave bye bye to those stacks of ill gotten gains cheaters!!

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

11 Jan 2008 at 17:51 - 9

I think the first exploit I heard of was the one where you get get multiple 50K XP for killing the doppleganger

It was'nt really an exploit, but the bug I saw that was the most fun was the one in which henchies dropped gold when they died, and every monster was hostile to another. So all you needed to do was drag two mobs together, watch them fight and pick up the spoils.

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

11 Jan 2008 at 17:56 - 10

Just a few that actually 'surfaced':
-map traveling anywhere on map
-storage in pre-searing
-disconnecting everyone in instance
-...

metallidevils

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 18:06 - 11

What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense.

I don't know how those 117 people were able to find that secret room - did they physically hack something, or did they just run through an invisible wall or whatever?

I didn't really agree with the banning of a bunch of people who supposedly 'knowingly' bought duplicated items for cheap. I don't really see what they did wrong..they wanted an item, had no proof that it was duplicated, and bought it, with their earned money. One of the reasons that Microsoft doesn't automatically sue or kick off anyone with bootleg software, is because it's not always the consumer's fault.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

11 Jan 2008 at 18:17 - 12

metallidevils wrote:
What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense. /end

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 18:19 - 13

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

metallidevils

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 18:20 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

But that doesn't make sense. How often do you hear of mislabeled clothing items, electronic items, etc, where the company honors the price that is on the item, because it's their mistake? And even if they don't honor the price, the person is never going to get in trouble for trying. It wouldn't be like I found the command to automatically spawn 100 ecto in front of me. But if it drops, why shouldn't I take it? Worst case is, Anet takes it away, or does a rollback or whatever. But I wouldn't have done anything illegal or bannable.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 18:20 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallidevils

What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense.

I don't know how those 117 people were able to find that secret room - did they physically hack something, or did they just run through an invisible wall or whatever?

I didn't really agree with the banning of a bunch of people who supposedly 'knowingly' bought duplicated items for cheap. I don't really see what they did wrong..they wanted an item, had no proof that it was duplicated, and bought it, with their earned money. One of the reasons that Microsoft doesn't automatically sue or kick off anyone with bootleg software, is because it's not always the consumer's fault.

I would think just going through and finding 100 ectos isn't an exploit but if you were to have to have a monk use charm animal on a certain tree then cast mending on it for the 100 ectos to appear - that is an exploit because there are a set number of perameters that you must go through that a person wouldn't do in normal game play

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 18:20 - 16

There are two free chests (not really chests) in Nightfall that say "Do not touch!"

If I touch them will I get banned?

j/k

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

11 Jan 2008 at 18:22 - 17

How about the afk lightbringer points farming exploit that allowed you to get LB points for killing rezzed monsters. Was so jealous when I saw r8 LB's in DoA a few days after it opened. By the time I found out about the exploit, it had been fixed.

Would I have taken advantage of it ... probably since they weren't hell bent on banning like they are now.

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 18:22 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

Oh man, I remember this. I returned to GW the day after it happened, only to find a few people I knew had gotten insanely rich the day before.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

11 Jan 2008 at 18:24 - 19

DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 18:28 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

If this is true and what we should do - then anyone who found a cupcake yesterday is in big trouble

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 18:29 - 21

Exploits:
-When a player uses an existing game mechanic to his/her advantage outside of or beyond its intended design.

-When a player bypasses existing game mechanics to achieve something to his/her advantage.

-When a player uses a game mechanic that is broken/bugged to his/her advantage.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

11 Jan 2008 at 18:29 - 22

...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes(cupcakes?) are used as currency.
LAWLZ

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 18:34 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes(cupcakes?) are used as currency.
LAWLZ

Its the point that the cupcakes shouldn't have been there.

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

11 Jan 2008 at 18:36 - 24

[*]the Doppleganger used to drop rare items everytime you beat him/her in bonus time...many people used this to unlock items fast (before Balthazar faction was implemented. i probably merched many unconditional items during that time)
[*]with some timing you were able to directly go into the Hall of Heroes battle skipping the rounds usually required to be done before it

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

11 Jan 2008 at 18:38 - 25

Did people actually get in trouble for using Signet of Midnight on the guild lord? Or was the latter at least reset to an earlier time? I can't recall. But a guild did lose its place in the GvG tournament because they asked the other team to resign.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 19:36 - 26

i think with the Signet of Midnight that there was a ladder reset.

There was the zoning exploit for the drunk title...drink up zone out and get all mins...rinse repeat.

Hrm what else... the knights armor "mechanic" wear one item of knights and get -3 no matter where you got hit...

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra song

Exploits:
-When a player uses an existing game mechanic to his/her advantage outside of or beyond its intended design.

-When a player bypasses existing game mechanics to achieve something to his/her advantage.

-When a player uses a game mechanic that is broken/bugged to his/her advantage.

does that mean syncing in RA is an exploit?

Lvl 20 in the guild hall...kill a player over and over for exp in a scrimage battle

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

11 Jan 2008 at 20:02 - 27

The ability to open storage anywhere using a packet sender.

The ability to travel anywhere using a packet sender.

The ability to visit the guildhall from pre using a packet sender.

Hack the client to get GM status to kick other people, change their names, and access hidden areas.

Syncjoining the rollerbeetles to get into the top 100 multiple times and steal all the rollerbeetles.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 20:10 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coridan

does that mean syncing in RA is an exploit?

I would say yes. but its impossible to fix. :\

I would say the knights armor one was bug that we didnt know was a bug. XD

Henchman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

A cave in the Shiverpeaks

Mo/

11 Jan 2008 at 20:13 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchie

I vaguely remember a guild loosing its place in GvG because of an exploit.

There was the Signet of Might exploit- The skill was supposed to buff a target spirit for 10 seconds, and afterwards that spirit was instantly destroyed.
The skill was bugged, and could target anyone, including opponents and their guild lord, meaning that they had 10 seconds to live.

It was exploited by some guilds, and therefore they were banned.

stee11

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Grammar Gorillaz

W/A

11 Jan 2008 at 20:14 - 30

How did people get banned today? or recently or whatever...

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

11 Jan 2008 at 20:15 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

I bought 3 full sets of fissure with ecto's @ 300g a pop back then. good times

Mahanaxar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Italy

Lupus Et Agnus

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 20:25 - 32

Not an exploit, but one of the many stupid moves by Anet was removing the Denravi swords (+5 energy). The price spiked at 100k+some ectos.

Then they added +5 en craftable weapons with Factions.

Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

kooomar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Pow Pow Pow [myau]

Mo/E

11 Jan 2008 at 20:26 - 33

I miss being able to walk outside of a factions city, get a blessing, sac myself, have a hero rez a flesh golem, sac myself again, have another hero rez a flesh golem, then giving both golem owners dual vamp weapons, waiting for them to degen allowing the golem to become hostile=10 kurz/luxon points, then allowing the MoR mesmer with res chant to rez both, rinse and repeat. 10k afking faction every couple hours or so wihout leeching

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

11 Jan 2008 at 20:40 - 34

The exploit where you could disconnect everyone in an instance is very misunderstood.

It required a packet editor, and it used the ability to ping your health to your team. You could only disconnect people in your party. You couldn't become a GM, lol. That is all server side.

zhou

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Third Time Lucky [Sigh]

11 Jan 2008 at 20:43 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

It was exploited by some guilds, and therefore they were banned.

They wern't banned, i used that bug in [gg] and got into top 30 none of us got banned.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

12 Jan 2008 at 01:57 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by booooYA

Did people actually get in trouble for using Signet of Midnight on the guild lord? Or was the latter at least reset to an earlier time? I can't recall. But a guild did lose its place in the GvG tournament because they asked the other team to resign.

Ladder was reset but ppl still kept their champ points and the fame from HA.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

12 Jan 2008 at 02:12 - 37

Farming vampires in Urgoz on HM for +600 gold ID's.

Lacerate expliot in polymock.

Harrier's haste

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

ViLE

R/P

12 Jan 2008 at 02:14 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Farming vampires in Urgoz on HM for +600 gold ID's.

Lacerate expliot in polymock.

Doesn't that place like deserted after Gw:en came out....?

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

12 Jan 2008 at 02:37 - 39

man I missed out on all the good exploits, never got a gh so couldnt do any of that stuff and never had a need to get a run......ah oh well, guess back to the old way of doing things--me and my h/h party slowly killing things.

Vann Borakul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Noble Honor [NH]

E/

12 Jan 2008 at 02:41 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

.

Can someone explain this more?