Grr.... HoM...

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

So I am standing in my HoM, for quite some time I have been working a bit on pimping it. You know, getting mini pets, hero armor, titles and so on...
I have quite a few things to show on my honor, but here is the thing that is really pissing me off. No matter how many times I press *Rearrange the display* some title combonations never come.

Is this pissing you off as well, or don't you care at all ?

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

I wish It'd just have a ''Randomize'' option, and then an option to display whatever titles/armor you want in your order.

But honestly I don't care at all, no biggie.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

The way it's organized it rather silly. I still haven't quite figured out how it moves the statues around, or how it acts when you add a new statue. Although, the only ones I have trouble with are Honor and Fellowship, since I don't have more than 2 elite armour sets on any character.

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

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A simple option so we could chose which statuts to show, would indeed be nice. You hear me Gailie ?! :P

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

There have been several posts about this in the "Sardelac Sanitarium" forum. Given that GW1 is developmentally dead, I doubt a user-sortable feature will be added to the HoM anytime soon.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Its how easily it could be changed that makes me angry. Plus, HoM was such a major disappointment, this little "bug" is just...dumb.

Ahh...Anet.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

I seem to remember seeing proof somewhere that the way the statues were arranged was the any 5 statues that are consecutive in a list can be shown together but apart from that it is impossible. I can't, however remember whether this list was the same as the one shown in the HoM or a different list altogether.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

This has pissed me off ever since HOM came out.

Although the OP is incorrect when he says some combinations would never appear. They would appear eventually. It's just that "eventually" is too insanely ludicrous to be viable.

When HOM first came out a poster here did the mathematical calculations about this about how many clicks it would take to get the exact combination you want with a fair number of titles. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like a few million clicks IIRC.

It should definitely be changed so you can display exact specific titles of your choosing.

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Although the OP is incorrect when he says some combinations would never appear..
That needs proof, because after something like 200-300 clicks, I don't belive it anymore :S

Cuthroat Dibbler

Cuthroat Dibbler

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Lore School

Me/

Display management options are very weak I agree. I for one would like to see better facilities for rearrangement of Monuments, pets etc etc

We have been told tho that changes will come over time, and I believe this particular idea is one that surfaces regularly...ergo it stands a reasonable chance of happening.

Um Yeah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Illusions of Grandeur [Illu]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Togira Ikonaka
I seem to remember seeing proof somewhere that the way the statues were arranged was the any 5 statues that are consecutive in a list can be shown together but apart from that it is impossible.
In my experience, this is how title rearranging works. It's sort of like a circle, so you can only look at 5 consecutive titles, in the order that you put them in the HoM.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
That needs proof, because after something like 200-300 clicks, I don't belive it anymore :S
200 - 300 won't cut it. I bet if you clicked it like 5 million times though, you'd see the combo you want come to be from one of those clicks. Or you could wait til someone who is good at math comes along and posts the mathematical calculations again in this thread which could give you a more precise number which would still be too ludicrous to do.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

They should make up for this by turning it into a slot machine. Get four Canthan titles to show and you win 1k!

Qual

Qual

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Togira Ikonaka
I seem to remember seeing proof somewhere that the way the statues were arranged was the any 5 statues that are consecutive in a list can be shown together but apart from that it is impossible.
I think this is how it works... I highly doubt that clicking 5 million times would work. Because after something like 50 clicks or less, you start to see the same combonations again...

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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It's cyclic. Every time I add a statue I can return to my original configuration of Holy LB Leg. Guardian, Leg Skillhunter, Leg. Cartographer, Leg. Spearmarshal. Doesn't matter what I add, that configuration is always available after several clicks.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
They should make up for this by turning it into a slot machine. Get four Canthan titles to show and you win 1k!
Awesome! Now HoM will have some use.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
A simple option so we could choose which statues to show, would indeed be nice.
Totally agree, this really frustrates me as well.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

yea its frustrating but its not like it really matters

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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There's so many rants about this issue that it surprises me Anet still hasn't taken the intiative to go ahead and do this for us. It's not hard. Besides, maybe I don't want to display 5 monuments for my title. Honestly, I'd rather just have my most hard working title up on there, with the Luxon and Kurzick banners next to it. It looks nice. But, I have to clutter it with two more. If people want to see my stuff, they just go to it.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Yeh, just a little check box system that allows you to display which one, and then a rearrange button for those 5. Even that would suffice.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Imo the execution of HoM is quite impeccable..Whirling statue roulette ftw!

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Could we possibly have a thread in Sardelac of all the changes we want for HoM that are WITHIN REASON? Or do we already have one? No, I won't go there to check. =P This place really needs some fixes.

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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It's a thing that they should fix. But I don't really care because I barely go into my HoM.

And you'll need more than 100 billion clicks to get the combination you want if you to have the exact combination with 20 statues...

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

This thread asked the same question. It seemed to have fallen on deaf ears.

CougarTheTall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dallas, TX

The Blood Spikers

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
A simple option so we could chose which statuts to show, would indeed be nice. You hear me Gailie ?! :P
/signed


YEAH GAILE, HEAR HIM DAMNIT!

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
So I am standing in my HoM, for quite some time I have been working a bit on pimping it. You know, getting mini pets, hero armor, titles and so on...
I have quite a few things to show on my honor, but here is the thing that is really pissing me off. No matter how many times I press *Rearrange the display* some title combonations never come.

Is this pissing you off as well, or don't you care at all ?
welcome to the hall of programming fails


You should know, like so many other of us, that the HoM has lots of points.. that aren't well thought out and could be improved

TaCktiX

TaCktiX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Order of Chaos Reborn [ToC]

The "everything topic" is here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10243512

/Signed to this.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

/signed for a checkbox to select the titles you wish displayed!

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Bleh, they can fix the ice crown for all the whiners, but they can't fix the HoM......

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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There is one simple answer for the armor/ title monuments. One checkbox or something or drop down menu for each space. You click that space, click the title you want in that space and there you go.

There would be 5 spots on say a mini map looking thing? To show where each title would be. Of course for mini pets that would be a lot of windows... But it could still be applied.

Liselle Morrow

Liselle Morrow

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Just to correct some misconceptions here, when rearranging the statues in your Honor monument (or any of the other monuments for that matter) it doesn't go through all the possible combinations at all. It only goes through about 15 or 20 orso before repeating the cycle of exactly the same combinations and in the same order. Only by adding new statues can you change the combinations that are in the cycle and as mentioned before some combinations always keep showing up, so they seem to have some sort of preference for certain combo's. Also I noticed that in most cases my Tyrian and Canthan (cartographer, skill hunter, etc) take preference over the Elonian ones when they don't all fit.

It just seems an odd and broken concept really. Let's give them some nice monuments so they can display their achievements and then let's add a randomizer button that doesn't work... yeah right. Just sounds like a combination of time constraints and badly rushed work to me. Fortunately I'm not too bugged about it, no one ever goes in there but me anyway. Still would be nice if they added a better rearranging option.

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

Yes it would be nice to show the things you wanted and in the order you wanted them in.

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
yea its frustrating but its not like it really matters
/agree
Nothing to add.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Go to the LLL thread, page two, and see what Gaile said about this.

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Go to the LLL thread, page two, and see what Gaile said about this.
throw us a link

Angelic Upstart

Angelic Upstart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

South Coast UK

[SBS] [RETIRED]

W/E

Another thing that gets my goat is the fact that you cannot, display weapons of your choice in there, this need sorting out also.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Agreed with totally, absolutely and in all other ways annoying. There are two things that desperately need to be fixed by Anet to keep my playing...The first is armour storage (we need it if i want to display armours in my HoM) and the second is arranging. They made such a big deal out of the HoM and how we would be able to display our legacy, but unfortunately it's impossible for us to 'choose' this legacy we are meant to be able to display.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Just give us a checkbox....thanks.

mazik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Its how easily it could be changed that makes me angry. Plus, HoM was such a major disappointment, this little "bug" is just...dumb.

Ahh...Anet.
Shouldn't we wait for GW2 before we decide if it was disappointing or not

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

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One of the big selling points for EotN and establishing the link to GW2 is the HoM.
It is quite important and the way it was punted by ANet / Gaile indicated as much.

This is especially meaningful in light of GW2 being completely different from GW1 and not being able to link the 2 in terms of items, chars, etc (at least from what I read and the limited information that is around), HoM is the ONLY link between the 2.
ANet made the fuss about it, to dampen the tempers of so many people going ape about not being able to transfer GW1 -> GW2.

Statements are even being made that players will get something for something being in your HoM, upon GW2 release.

HoM From Guildwiki:
Quote:
The Hall of Monuments is an explorable area in the Eye of the North expansion and will be incorporated in Guild Wars 2 to help tie the games together and reward dedicated Guild Wars players in Guild Wars 2.
QFT

Well, they have some work to do, so hopefully HoM will live up to it's perceived greatness.

Fact of the matter is: exact detail, mechanisms, how everything will work upon GW2 release, is still very unknown. Plus, it doesn't look like any changes are planned any time soon for HoM.

You can just read the discussions on Guild Wars Wiki and see all Gaile's responses as "information of this kind has not been released", "the way that the HoM interfaces with Guild Wars 2 has not even been developed on a formal basis", "we don't have that level of detail", etc.
These were from about a 1.5 months ago.