Fix Nightfall treasures!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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I'm sure everyone by now has heard of the treasures in Nightfall where you can get golds, cash, purples, sometimes gems, etc. without a key. However, the rumor is that these reset every month per character, but sometimes you have to wait a little longer.

Well, it's been 3 months for my main character and they still haven't reset for her. Yet they've reset twice for all my other characters already. Now I did hear that it might be based on how often a character is played, but I haven't been on that account that much, as I've been working on my other one. So what's up with this?

It should automatically set, no matter what, every month like stated.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Anet has not stated HOW they reset. People ASSUME how it works, and do fairly well with it. Until Anet says HOW it works, we can do nothing more than guess. Based on assumptions made by the community after extensive testing, I have had no problems with it.

What is your suggestion? Fix something we don't even know to be broken? If anything, just ask Anet to tell us how the reset is calculated.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

The whole "every month they reset" thing is just what everyone assumes is the factor, like the above poster says

Even so, this shouldn't be in Sardelac, it should be in Q&A if anything, but, imo, it should be a letter to ncsoft, not in a game suggestions forum

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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My suggestion is that they should be a steady reset. I don't know how they've reset twice for all characters but my main, which hasn't reset in 3 months. So I think it needs to have a better "schedule" if you will.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Maybe it isn't a schedule?

Maybe it has something to do with the rate your character is played? No one really knows.

Can a mod please remove this from Game Suggestions?

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

My suggestion is that there should be no reset at all. Then people can't bitch about not receiving enough free shit.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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ANet should just deposit all the contents of the FREE chests into all character's inventories every 31 days to remove unnecessary confusion. I think that would be a fair solution.
/Sarcasm

Zydonis

Zydonis

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Loners United [CULT]

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I'm not saying for sure, but from my experience, if you don't wait a full month before clicking one, the reset time starts over. Since I've noticed this, I can open them every month on the day, so I'm reasonably sure it's true.

Also, if you try to open one before it's reset, it seems to count as an opening, and the next time you'll have worse drops.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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How can you fix something that's not broken? ANet never told us exactly when these chests reset. People just assumed they reset every month. So until ANet tell us exactly when these chests are supposed to reset, none of us can say something is wrong with them.

Quote:
My suggestion is that there should be no reset at all. Then people can't bitch about not receiving enough free shit.
I like your suggestion.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Have you been checking on them before the one month period has passed?

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

It is believed that if you touch the chest before the month is up then you have to wait another month for it to be reset. So if you touch the chest a day early and nothing is there you know have to wait another month before it is reset. Once again that is what is believed.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
My suggestion is that there should be no reset at all. Then people can't bitch about not receiving enough free shit.
Ya I am gonna have to agree with that.

Anet put them in their as a little reward for PvE players, they didn't HAVE to do it. It was a nice gesture that people have taken as something that ANet should fix because they don't like how it's set up. Just take it away, people will complain for a month or two then forget about it. >.<

Liselle Morrow

Liselle Morrow

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
My suggestion is that there should be no reset at all. Then people can't bitch about not receiving enough free shit.
Irrelevant though your post is, it's not your free goldie of the month service anyway. Drops get very lousy after a few months, it's all purples and cash drops are cut down to about 1/4th of the original drop or less, up to the point where it's no longer lucrative enough to bother with opening them. It's just a small gift to those who have bothered to advance more than 1 character and thus had less time to farm for cash.

Also I've heard this same story from lots of different people and it usually only happened to one of their characters while others were fine. I once opened treasures exactly a month after the previous ones and managed to open them all except on my ele, those were all empty and I knew I hadn't miscalculated because I had the date on paper. There were no differences between my ele and a few of the other characters that did open their treasures as I had hardly played any of them. Also another month later I still couldnt open my ele's treasures. Then about a few days back (which was after about a 3 month cooldown period) voila, I could open the treasures again on my ele. It's a complete mystery why this happens, but if it's not a random factor (more commonly referred to as a bug) I'll eat my ele's socks...

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

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I love how these are somehow "free" which means we don't have to work our way there to them.

"Free" would mean it would be readily available in town with no effort at all.

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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How do you work your way to them??? Roll in a wurm? Dodge aggro for 2 minutes? Throw on a mediocre running build involving flame djinns haste, sprint, and storm chaser?

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

One question, how are you checking to see if there is anything in them? If you are opening them and then it says "there is nothing in here" you have opened it too soon and you now have to wait another 31 days(automatic reset). I used to do that too and i thought WTF!

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

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you know, it would be nice to have the treasures reset once every 3-4 months making them drop golds and gems on the first run, then 50-50 golds and purps with reduced cash amount and the third time all grapes and even a more reduced cash amount, after that, its resets and here we go all over again

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
you know, it would be nice to have the treasures reset once every 3-4 months making them drop golds and gems on the first run, then 50-50 golds and purps with reduced cash amount and the third time all grapes and even a more reduced cash amount, after that, its resets and here we go all over again
I could live with that. Plus it gets annoying trying it every month on each character, and then they only spawn purples and low cash and such. I do like your idea.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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I heard that it is account based with drop rarity (ie if you open it on 1st char, then 2nd, then 3rd, you're going to get grapes your 2nd time around on 1st char)

And btw, you haven't answered as to whether you're checking them before the month is up(as that resets the timer) but I'm assuming you know about that since you've opened them multiple times on 2nd and 3rd chars.

Some weird bug for you? dunno, but I haven't had problems personally. Explanation would be good as to how they really work though.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Yes I think I have been checking them too soon, but I didn't realize that reset it again and made you wait another month.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Yes I think I have been checking them too soon, but I didn't realize that reset it again and made you wait another month.
Did it not occur to read up on wiki before making a thread complaining about the way it's reset?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I think they're fine as they are... however, maybe have the character's birthday reset them to their original state - so, once a year you get golds + plat? That would be a nice additional birthday present.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Yes I think I have been checking them too soon, but I didn't realize that reset it again and made you wait another month.
Nobody outside of Anet employees knows HOW they work. However, you seem to have done no research on what has been learned about it. Do some research BEFORE posting there is a problem to be fixed. It works fine for me, and lots of other people. If it doesn't work fine for you, it is 99% sure its because you don't know what you are doing.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Buried_Treasure
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Treasure

Read it, click the links, and read those, and then come back if you still have problems.

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Omg.. stop crying..

IT'S FREE.
ANet has never stated when the chests reroll.

From wiki:
The most likely theory for treasure resets is that if you attempt to open any chest within the month following the last access to a Treasure without waiting the full month, the timer resets for approximately an additional month for that character only. This means that if you attempted to open the same chest every day, you would never get any treasure from it apart from the first time you opened it.

~Prof.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Of Black


From wiki:
The most likely theory for treasure resets is that if you attempt to open any chest within the month following the last access to a Treasure without waiting the full month, the timer resets for approximately an additional month for that character only. This means that if you attempted to open the same chest every day, you would never get any treasure from it apart from the first time you opened it.

~Prof.
Yes, thats true. This theory worked for me, I opened many treasures on many character in the past.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin
I love how these are somehow "free" which means we don't have to work our way there to them.

"Free" would mean it would be readily available in town with no effort at all.
I think you would be hard-pressed to call running for 2 minutes "effort". You hardly need a running skill as long as you know how to avoid aggro.

I just bring Fall Back on my paragon, and maybe Charge on Koss and run around for a while.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Did it not occur to read up on wiki before making a thread complaining about the way it's reset?
QFT

Please, no more suggestions and no more stupid threads :/

Peter Panic

Peter Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

ct

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by angmar_nite
How do you work your way to them??? Roll in a wurm? Dodge aggro for 2 minutes? Throw on a mediocre running build involving flame djinns haste, sprint, and storm chaser?
perfect, my e/w/r needed a good build

but i think that the whole no reset idea is best. i always forget when i last checked them, if i remember to check them at all, so w.e