Sylvari
Theo Godscythe
I have read the "Movement of the World" article on Guild Wars Wiki but the one thing that I don't understand about the Sylvari is whether there are any Males in their species. Through the article it only refers to the Sylvari as her or she and it also says that they cannot reproduce which would lead you to believe they are all female. Any ideas on this?
Fangclaw
Well, maybe they are at the time of GWEN...
But I guess if its going to be playable in GW2, then there will be males as well.
But I guess if its going to be playable in GW2, then there will be males as well.
Free Runner
Gaile did say in one of her chats when asked if there would be male Sylvari that she had seen concept art for the Sylvari females (the only image we have of the Sylvari so far) and males. So i guess there are going to be males.
Theo Godscythe
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Well, maybe they are at the time of GWEN...
But I guess if its going to be playable in GW2, then there will be males as well. |
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Gaile did say in one of her chats when asked if there would be male Sylvari that she had seen concept art for the Sylvari females (the only image we have of the Sylvari so far) and males. So i guess there are going to be males.
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Thank you for the information.
arsie
Sousuke and Kai Ying are a male Sylvari...
Fangclaw
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Originally Posted by arsie
Sousuke and Kai Ying are a male Sylvari...
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In any case, I dont think they are. No green hair, no swirling tatoos so what makes you say that?
shoyon456
while we're on the topic, since it's been said the sylvari do not reproduce, why are they even going to bother making a male model other than to appease people? lol I don't know what others think, but the female concept art is MORE than enough to my liking
Not to mention, if you are seriously going to classify the sylvari into male and female, are the breasts on the concept of the female sylvari just for show? lol
Not to mention, if you are seriously going to classify the sylvari into male and female, are the breasts on the concept of the female sylvari just for show? lol
Mark Nevermiss
The Sylvari should be like the dryads or forest nymphs, i.e. female only.
Eldin
There have been many games in the past where some of the most awesome races/classes forced you to be female.
Not to be discrimnatory or anything, but when it comes to gender, men prefer either sex (maybe females a bit more :P ), I see no case in games where people are screaming for a male variant of something though.
Not to be discrimnatory or anything, but when it comes to gender, men prefer either sex (maybe females a bit more :P ), I see no case in games where people are screaming for a male variant of something though.
arsie
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... I see no case in games where people are screaming for a male variant of something though.
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shoyon456
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Not so much screaming for a male variant, rather puking after seeing the female versions.
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Free Runner
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
Frankly I thought the concept art for the female sylvari was stunning. But still, why female AND male if they dont reproduce, whats the point of having both sexes with their respective "parts"? XD
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I will be making Sylvari female as i also thought their concept art was great
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Tatile
What if they change it so Sylvari have no gender? That would be interesting, and I'd probably be more inclined to play one.
I Will Heal You Ally
lol Female Charr warriors in cute pink skirts
Oogami
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Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally
lol Female Charr warriors in cute pink skirts
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( and dont forget the pink lipstick on the pouty lips)
On a side note I'd love having a male variation from the sylvari but i won't die if there isn't one. Still looking pretty much forward to them.
Guildmaster Cain
If there arent any male versions of Sylvari, there are no female either. Because otherwise their boobs and other female parts would be useless and evolution doesnt like useless body attributes.
Without males, no females, it would just be a unisex race.
O wait someone else also noted that earlier..
Without males, no females, it would just be a unisex race.
O wait someone else also noted that earlier..
Theo Godscythe
It's all the same to me my Sylvari will inherit my Ranger's stuf and he's callled Arden which can be used for male or female.
shoyon456
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
If there arent any male versions of Sylvari, there are no female either. Because otherwise their boobs and other female parts would be useless and evolution doesnt like useless body attributes.
Without males, no females, it would just be a unisex race. O wait someone else also noted that earlier.. |
You think its possible whole race was just started because melandru is preparing an army of sylvari born from herself (her tree domain) to try to take control over the other gods like abbadon tried? LOL
Its possible from what we've seen... But
1)why would the gods allow Melandru to simply 'will' a race into existence, its got to violate some kind of noninvolvement thing
2)Abbadon's followers (the margonites) were humans that simply "converted" to him. Yes they were changed physically, but they weren't 'born' from abbadon.
mazey vorstagg
What if they are unisex they just have boobs because they're modeled in the image of Melendru (by her I presume). Then they wouldn't have any other useless parts (well, useless for them)
And to answer the above post, the Dwarfs are gone. there must be a new race to take their place. Perhaps with the fall of the Dwarfs Melendru was allowed by the other gods to create a new species.
And to answer the above post, the Dwarfs are gone. there must be a new race to take their place. Perhaps with the fall of the Dwarfs Melendru was allowed by the other gods to create a new species.
itsthatkid
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Firstborn
Notice that the article refers to the firstborn Sylvari as 'it'.
I think it will be interesting that Sylvari will only be one gender (feminine).
I also think Charr should only be male... But ehh.
Notice that the article refers to the firstborn Sylvari as 'it'.
I think it will be interesting that Sylvari will only be one gender (feminine).
I also think Charr should only be male... But ehh.
Avatara
Sylvari wouldn't need genders anyways... I mean they grow on trees. No need for sex 
shoyon456
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http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Firstborn
Notice that the article refers to the firstborn Sylvari as 'it'. I think it will be interesting that Sylvari will only be one gender (feminine). I also think Charr should only be male... But ehh. |
Either way, I'll be looking forward to this race in particular.
Aubis
I wonder if the Dreams of Dreams have a connetion with the gods cause the nigthmare it said the Sylvari hear a dark and evil voice maybe abbadon or the other evil gods
KalleDamos
The charr don't have any 'female' concept art does that mean the charr will be a male only race? And seeing as how the Sylvari cannot reproduce would not having a male counterpart be more for the concept of fitting in with the other races who have both a male and female gender?
Hyper Cutter
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Originally Posted by KalleDamos
The charr don't have any 'female' concept art does that mean the charr will be a male only race?
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itsthatkid
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
The problem with this is that if they are indeed "it"s, then like you say there is no need for a gender, including feminine. Yet, they concept art is clearly shown to have feminine attributes. It was said before that this could be due to them being created in Melandru's image, but it still begs the question of why do they have these organs if they serve for no purpose?
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Vicks
Technically, if they do not reproduce there would be no need for breasts, as they have no young to suckle. Lack of reproduction also implies they are all sterile, so they are probably all devoid of sexual organs no matter if they look more like a human-female or more like a human-male. There's probably going to be Sylvari who resemble either of the human genders but that will be cosmetic differences at best. There's plenty of ways to describe them looking the way they do despite having no actual reason to, evolutionarily. That is to say, why some of them would look curvy and voluptuous ("female) while others to be angular and stocky ("male") when they don't even have a real gender. It could all lie in the mysteries of that seed pod the guy stole from the cave.
The passage says the cave was guarded by plant monsters. Well, those monsters were probably born from those pods. Think of them as "proto-sylvari". The pods must have some capacity to be imprinted upon by what is around them, either magically or physically. Maybe some of Ronan and Ventari's DNA was imprinted on the pods, which had formerly only had the bare vegetation of the cave they were in to imprint. This could have caused the birth of the new race after the pod grew and matured, incorporating this new genetic material into its sprouts.
It could also be magical, which seems fitting given this subconscious dream-like connection between all the Sylvari. Perhaps the seed was imprinted upon in a more mystical nature by the emotions and wisdom of Ventari, and the friendship he had with Ronan. This could have caused it to change into something more pure and gentle than the ones which remained in the harsh and barren cave system.
Either way, whether it was physical, magical, or a combination of the two, if it's imprinted upon by something that has genders then the resulting product will certainly have some residual or vestigial traces of those genders.
The passage says the cave was guarded by plant monsters. Well, those monsters were probably born from those pods. Think of them as "proto-sylvari". The pods must have some capacity to be imprinted upon by what is around them, either magically or physically. Maybe some of Ronan and Ventari's DNA was imprinted on the pods, which had formerly only had the bare vegetation of the cave they were in to imprint. This could have caused the birth of the new race after the pod grew and matured, incorporating this new genetic material into its sprouts.
It could also be magical, which seems fitting given this subconscious dream-like connection between all the Sylvari. Perhaps the seed was imprinted upon in a more mystical nature by the emotions and wisdom of Ventari, and the friendship he had with Ronan. This could have caused it to change into something more pure and gentle than the ones which remained in the harsh and barren cave system.
Either way, whether it was physical, magical, or a combination of the two, if it's imprinted upon by something that has genders then the resulting product will certainly have some residual or vestigial traces of those genders.
Onarik Amrak
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No need for sex
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Laughing Bat
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But still, why female AND male if they dont reproduce, whats the point of having both sexes with their respective "parts"? XD
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Anyways its one of many reasons why you shouldn't change very little to humans and call it a new race(asura and charr ftw!) Personaly I thought the Sylvari concept art looked great and will likely have a male counterpart if for no other reason than to give us more options. I think Vicks gave the best idea for how it would fit into the lore.
Fangclaw
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I think Vicks gave the best idea for how it would fit into the lore.
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ragnagard
Nah I will try to explain a bit:
When a male and a female loves theirselves too much, they aproach each other till they are together and (within a time of pleasure, rofl) the male put a little Seed on the female. That seed grows and it turns into a new baby.
Emm and,,, yeah, lol. on the topic.... Boobs should be there for a reason; other than looking for em.
I think that the mysticism about this new race will lead me to directly play with a sylvary even if I can be a female, male or both chars.
PD: If we discuss about boobs on a descendant from melandru... why we dont discuss too why did original melandru has boobs for? :P
When a male and a female loves theirselves too much, they aproach each other till they are together and (within a time of pleasure, rofl) the male put a little Seed on the female. That seed grows and it turns into a new baby.
Emm and,,, yeah, lol. on the topic.... Boobs should be there for a reason; other than looking for em.
I think that the mysticism about this new race will lead me to directly play with a sylvary even if I can be a female, male or both chars.
PD: If we discuss about boobs on a descendant from melandru... why we dont discuss too why did original melandru has boobs for? :P
Tatile
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
PD: If we discuss about boobs on a descendant from melandru... why we dont discuss too why did original melandru has boobs for? :P
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*Traditional, I say. The mother is seen to magically grow a child within and men were quite rightly mystified by this.
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by Tatile
Probably originates from the traditional personifications of nature being a female (Gaia for example). Nature and women* give life, so it only makes sense that the two would be connected in lore.
*Traditional, I say. The mother is seen to magically grow a child within and men were quite rightly mystified by this. |
Vicks
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PD: If we discuss about boobs on a descendant from melandru... why we dont discuss too why did original melandru has boobs for? :P |
Also, if Grenth and Kormir are any indication, some or all of the gods were originally mortal beings who merely absorbed or inherited some sort of celestial essence, in which case they would probably retain their previous features.