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Ellisthion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

R/E

15 Jan 2008 at 03:36 - 1

I was wandering around regent valley, trying to work out if any of the pre-searing cave ruins could be seen post-searing, and I found some amusing bridges...

This is the only pre-searing bridge near the aqueduct. Okay, fine.

Here's the same bridge, same location (see minimap)... but, uh...

That's not quite the same bridge...

But wait, there's more!

Here's a post-searing bridge, this time north-east of the aqueduct.

Now here's the same bridge, pre-searing.

Wait, that's no bridge...

So, not only have they built a bridge since the searing, but it has somehow been damaged, despite not being hit by the searing!

Now, admittedly, Regent Valley has been severely bashed by the searing, with the terrain far more deformed than, say, Ashford or Ascalon City. Even so, I have never seen giant flaming crystals form a bridge across a river...

Neo Nugget

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15 Jan 2008 at 03:46 - 2

Oh that's really cool

I like pre, so i like these kind of things.
thanks for sharing this.

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

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W/Mo

15 Jan 2008 at 03:54 - 3

Quote:

Now here's the same bridge, pre-searing.

Wait, that's no bridge...

lol, good one.

its an interesting fact that youve found, and also, i dont know if you noticed, but the first presear bridge has a "clean" surface, where the postsear bridges seem to have an "anguish face" (or demon face) at the side (at least the side your pictures show).

Zeek Aran

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Earth, sadly

BORK

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15 Jan 2008 at 03:57 - 4

Next question. Do hills GROW that much?

Zahr Dalsk

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15 Jan 2008 at 03:59 - 5

My theory is that the devs just weren't paying that close attention and so there were things that don't match properly.

Malice Black

Site Legend

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15 Jan 2008 at 04:00 - 6

Come now, you're just being picky.

Harrier's haste

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ViLE

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15 Jan 2008 at 04:03 - 7

Well if there was an earthquake they probably do lol......

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

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Granite Citadel

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N/Me

15 Jan 2008 at 04:10 - 8

they are different bridges.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

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North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

15 Jan 2008 at 05:28 - 9

Well, the geography should be the same except where the devs/designers purposely changed it. So, this must be intentional. It is weird that the post-searing bridges look much older than that one pre-searing bridge. It has similar architecture to other ruins near Ascalon, Surmia, the Courthouse, Dragon's Gullet, etc.

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

15 Jan 2008 at 05:35 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Next question. Do hills GROW that much?

No, but all of Ascalon's rivers turned to tar when the Searing occured. So the tar just doesn't raise as high as water so you see more of the hills.

Also, my theory is that the Pre Searing bridges got destroyed in the searing. Ascalonians had to build new bridges to get across canyons like that especially because their rivers turned to tar. Since the Charr still do frequent raids it's possible that the bridges have been damaged in these skirmishes.

Overthinking it? Maybe, but that's my $0.02

Operative 14

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Arizona, USA

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15 Jan 2008 at 06:14 - 11

Very interesting observation there. I think RPGmaniac is probably right, the searing did happen two years (technically about 9 years but.. uh...) before when you were out there wandering around, so it's possibe all sorts of things might have happened that made them want to build and rebuild bridges.

One thing that you have to consider is that the Charr were invading Ascalon, so there's a good chance that the Ascalonians themselves might have destroyed the bridge, and later rebuilt it, so they could starve the Charr of supplies in the desolate Ascalon area.

Further evidence that they were destroyed and rebuilt might be seen by their construction; the new bridge is smaller and easier to have built then the old bridge with it's superfluous cast iron ornaments and added stonework on the sides.

Of course, what might be more fitting is that the developers decided to make Ascalon with a more gothic look in Post-sear than in Pre-sear, and they were hoping no one would notice the change. And that worked for, what, over 3 years?

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

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DKL

15 Jan 2008 at 06:15 - 12

Regarding the bridges... My bad.

Earth Ele was going for drunkard title and well... yeah.

arcanemacabre

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North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

15 Jan 2008 at 06:19 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

One thing that you have to consider is that the Charr were invading Ascalon, so there's a good chance that the Ascalonians themselves might have destroyed the bridge, and later rebuilt it, so they could starve the Charr of supplies in the desolate Ascalon area.

That's impossible! There are Moa birds everywhere!

But yeah, I agree with RPGmaniac's assessment. The face on the bridges may actually be that of Adelbern, too. Kinda looks like him. :P

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

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N/

15 Jan 2008 at 06:21 - 14

Not surprised. you were in the academy all that time.

The more grotesque architecture could reflect the general mood of the Ascalonians during those war years.

Bridges, in particular, are quite likely to be built during war times to facilitate troop movements.

Operative 14

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15 Jan 2008 at 06:24 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

That's impossible! There are Moa birds everywhere!

But yeah, I agree with RPGmaniac's assessment. The face on the bridges may actually be that of Adelbern, too. Kinda looks like him. :P

Well, the Charr are still there, so how successful do you think that action was?

pamelf

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Me/Mo

15 Jan 2008 at 07:14 - 16

lol, cool tidbit. Thanks for sharing.

Wilian Norward

Ascalonian Squire

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15 Jan 2008 at 07:22 - 17

I hate to burst your bubble, but there is a very easy explaination.

During the Searing, a bridge from some other area in Ascalon was hit by an explosion that launched the bridge into the air where it landed at that particular stream, intact.

BenjZee

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Mo/

15 Jan 2008 at 09:28 - 18

lol nice little thing you noticed. Wasn't there also something to do with the monument moving in the cities of ascalon quest. (well that one coulda moved)

-Loki-

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15 Jan 2008 at 09:48 - 19

Yeah. People really need some new content to play with.

Chrono Re delle Ere

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W/

15 Jan 2008 at 10:33 - 20

Seems pretty obvious that Charrs did put some "change-bridge-design-magic" into all that mess xD

Lady Raenef

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15 Jan 2008 at 10:36 - 21

When Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, it shifted the the land it was on by a nice effect. So, you can't come up with the theory that the searing caused the land to deform from the massive impacts and the bridge happened to lodge itself there?

Personally, I don't care. I hate post-searing because it looks like crap. So, I downloaded that mod that made Ascalon look pretty again even in post. It works wonders, I feel like grass is growing under my feet and Ascalon looks nice again! Yay. I'm done here.

I think finding more things like this would be interesting.

Darkobra

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E/Me

15 Jan 2008 at 10:38 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Yeah. People really need some new content to play with.

No, we don't. Do you know if you get 10 charr on that bridge, the face grins and eats the charr? My game's more fun.

Ellisthion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

R/E

15 Jan 2008 at 12:23 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

No, but all of Ascalon's rivers turned to tar when the Searing occured. So the tar just doesn't raise as high as water so you see more of the hills.

Actually, the terrain around Fort Ranik and Regent Valley is very different. If you wander out into Ashford, it's dead easy to match everything up, but in Regent Valley it's a lot more than water levels. The hills and valleys are just not the same. Strange that the land is so different and yet the aqueduct is almost untouched.

If they were built recently, the only explanation would be that there was an existing building that got trashed by the searing, and the bridges were built from its ruins. This would explain the faces and the damaged pillars.

The face is on both sides, btw.

Age

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Mo/

15 Jan 2008 at 22:24 - 24

I never noticed the bridges being different in pre and post I just knew about the res shrine outside of Ascalon.When playing in beta it was where it was in pre and Ambassador Zain was right behind it and it looked more orangey then.

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

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17 Jan 2008 at 03:56 - 25

The pre-searing architect died in the searing so they had to replace him when rebuilding destroyed bridges.

Biostem

Jungle Guide

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17 Jan 2008 at 04:03 - 26

I always thought that the searing was more than just a bombardment; I interpreted the crystal things as literally changing the very land they crashed into. It makes sense to me that, while the charr may have used them to simply bring down the great northern wall, the titans or whomever they prayed to to bring about the searing had other things in mind. In short, the charr wanted to breach the wall, but the forces behind the bombardment wanted to wipe away the life and very identity of Ascalon...

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

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Rt/

17 Jan 2008 at 04:24 - 27

I smell a conspiracy!

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

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17 Jan 2008 at 05:24 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biostem

I always thought that the searing was more than just a bombardment; I interpreted the crystal things as literally changing the very land they crashed into. It makes sense to me that, while the charr may have used them to simply bring down the great northern wall, the titans or whomever they prayed to to bring about the searing had other things in mind. In short, the charr wanted to breach the wall, but the forces behind the bombardment wanted to wipe away the life and very identity of Ascalon...

I like this explanation.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

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R/Mo

17 Jan 2008 at 05:37 - 29

Its the dark world!!

Now where's my magic mirror...

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

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:D:D

D/W

17 Jan 2008 at 10:50 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilian Norward

I hate to burst your bubble, but there is a very easy explaination.

During the Searing, a bridge from some other area in Ascalon was hit by an explosion that launched the bridge into the air where it landed at that particular stream, intact.

i lol'd

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