If I went out and bought a new account, and got all three new games, would I be able to play it? I would have absolutely no access to any funds from the exploit, because I did not transfer any funds to any alternate accounts from my main, which is now permanently banned. Would I be able to start over fresh without fearing the ban stick?
Perma ban on my main btw, one of the 117, blah blah blah.
Banned: Wanting to start over, can I?
Mickey
StormDragonZ
Banned once, banned always. That's my own thoughts.
Mickey
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Banned once, banned always. That's my own thoughts.
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RPGmaniac
I think there's some clause in the EULA that says when you get banned, they're banning you as a person. If they find out you got another account going, I think they'll ban you for that too. I'm not 100% sure though, I'd look it up if I were you.
Mickey
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I think there's some clause in the EULA that says when you get banned, they're banning you as a person. If they find out you got another account going, I think they'll ban you for that too. I'm not 100% sure though, I'd look it up if I were you.
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UNLESS, I have the expressed permission of NC Interactive to use the account, so, where can I contact NC Interactive?
Snograt
I would say that losing an account that's had lots of time and money spent on it is punishment enough for anything.
IF you were to register a new account with a Gmail address, they wouldn't know who you were anyway.
IF you were to register a new account with a Gmail address, they wouldn't know who you were anyway.
Mickey
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I would say that losing an account that's had lots of time and money spent on it is punishment enough for anything.
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{IceFire}
A friend of mine who was perma banned on one account bought another and was banned on that one as well, although now he finally has an account anet hasn't found yet. lol
Mickey
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A friend of mine who was perma banned on one account bought another and was banned on that one as well, although now he finally has an account anet hasn't found yet. lol
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RhanoctJocosa
You will need to change/modify your IP address somehow to be 100% safe. Then go for it.
Mickey
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Actually I've been looking into the ethicals of this, my brother in-law's a solicitor and a loyer and he's told me that if your account's been banned well tough, but if you were to go out and buy it over again just to have it banned again, That's a criminal act.
1. because the consigner is robbing the consignee of funds that were legally transferred. I'm speaking of money spent on the game, without an option of a refund. Therefore Arenanet is NOT allowed to continuously ban accounts without first doing a thorough investigation. Otherwise there can be court-cases involved and that's the last thing a business needs to face. Hope I cleared it up. By Australian law...I'm not sure about any other country though. Ta. |
Master Sword Keeper
Not exactly suing,
More like receiving compensation for losses of currency that you or your guardian has put into the purchase of the item(s) in question.
Anet has no right whatsoever to simpily permaban anyone. Otherwise that is a breach of laws. It's as bad as saying "I'll buy a game, putting the money into their account and receiving nothing in return". It's just plain theft. Anyone who has ever owned or ran a company PROPERLY will understand the liabilities and the damage control. I'm part of a multi-million dollar company that trades between the states and Australian. I wish not to see any black marks of alliances.
But as I've said, All that Anet has really done has robbed you of X ammount of $$ and have given no compensation in return. I don't know what else to tell you. But there will have to be something done. Sorry I can't help you anymore than that. It's an unfair ban, unless you intentionally pulled yourself into it.
More like receiving compensation for losses of currency that you or your guardian has put into the purchase of the item(s) in question.
Anet has no right whatsoever to simpily permaban anyone. Otherwise that is a breach of laws. It's as bad as saying "I'll buy a game, putting the money into their account and receiving nothing in return". It's just plain theft. Anyone who has ever owned or ran a company PROPERLY will understand the liabilities and the damage control. I'm part of a multi-million dollar company that trades between the states and Australian. I wish not to see any black marks of alliances.
But as I've said, All that Anet has really done has robbed you of X ammount of $$ and have given no compensation in return. I don't know what else to tell you. But there will have to be something done. Sorry I can't help you anymore than that. It's an unfair ban, unless you intentionally pulled yourself into it.
strcpy
*shrug* It can't hurt to send support or even PM Gaile - can't say you will get an answer though. I'm not sure exactly who NC interactive is, however support tends to be where they want you to send questions similar to this one.
If your one that did the actual hacking then I would say just don't bother - I know the answer and it will be "no". If you took advantage of it - dunno, my guess is probably still "no" since they felt it bad enough to ban an older account. You can try and purchase them and pretty much start new (and that includes making all new friends, guild, and pretty much not being your old character) otherwise I would guess you would get the ban hammer again - this seems to have hit a real nerve with them.
If your one that did the actual hacking then I would say just don't bother - I know the answer and it will be "no". If you took advantage of it - dunno, my guess is probably still "no" since they felt it bad enough to ban an older account. You can try and purchase them and pretty much start new (and that includes making all new friends, guild, and pretty much not being your old character) otherwise I would guess you would get the ban hammer again - this seems to have hit a real nerve with them.
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this seems to have hit a real nerve with them.
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Genie100
Or...suppose another member of your family, who is totally innocent, wanted to play GW and bought a copy. They would have your smae IP number , but possibly be banned for something they didn't even do...
Neo Nugget
I dunno, but i have heard Anet could IP ban someone.
makosi
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I dunno, but i have heard Anet could IP ban someone.
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As for buyng a new account, contact NCSoft or ANet support and hope that you don't get an automated response.
zola
Pretty much nobody plays with a fixed, traceable IP address. You get your address from a pool, assigned to your ISP and you can't control (much) which one you will get.
Fixed, or static, IP are expensive...
Fixed, or static, IP are expensive...
isamu kurosawa
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I dunno, but i have heard Anet could IP ban someone.
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Etta
Are you sure, you want to start it all over again? Do you really think it'll be worth it? I'd just pack up and leave, or find some other games to play. Then again, I'm not in the 117.
Snograt
If you're prepared to pay a considerable amount of money, starting over isn't as bad as it used to be. Platinum pack, Factions, Nightfall and all the unlock packs and you're good to go.
I would imagine that, in the not-too-distant future that they will be offering a compendium containing all chapters - would make sense with no more content forthcoming.
I personally don't think that a perma-ban on you as a person would make any sense. You've been caught exploiting the system and you've paid the price.
If you were to get a new account, you sure as hell would stick to the straight and narrow, right? I'm pretty sure you didn't understand the severity of what you were involved in.
Good luck - hope we see you ingame soon.
I would imagine that, in the not-too-distant future that they will be offering a compendium containing all chapters - would make sense with no more content forthcoming.
I personally don't think that a perma-ban on you as a person would make any sense. You've been caught exploiting the system and you've paid the price.
If you were to get a new account, you sure as hell would stick to the straight and narrow, right? I'm pretty sure you didn't understand the severity of what you were involved in.
Good luck - hope we see you ingame soon.
Mickey
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If you're prepared to pay a considerable amount of money, starting over isn't as bad as it used to be. Platinum pack, Factions, Nightfall and all the unlock packs and you're good to go.
I would imagine that, in the not-too-distant future that they will be offering a compendium containing all chapters - would make sense with no more content forthcoming. I personally don't think that a perma-ban on you as a person would make any sense. You've been caught exploiting the system and you've paid the price. If you were to get a new account, you sure as hell would stick to the straight and narrow, right? I'm pretty sure you didn't understand the severity of what you were involved in. Good luck - hope we see you ingame soon. |
Coloneh
I would try to get your account un-banned if i were you. i read what you did back in riverside. you didnt do anything wrong
Mickey
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I would try to get your account un-banned if i were you. i read what you did back in riverside. you didnt do anything wrong
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Mickey
With my answer from support on its way, I have another question. My main account had a specific character name that I really liked, Miniature Vizu, on my Assassin. Is there anyway I can get this character name off my account? I asked support to wipe my main, and I also asked if they had the power to create a placeholder character with the name.
Xylia
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10242767
Offering to buy the game and start over may or may not influence your appeal.
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Players who were banned may submit an appeal. Each such appeal will be carefully and respectfully researched and I truly hope that your personal situation is such that your account might be reinstated. But in all honesty, for quite a number on the ban list, that simply will not be possible. And as distressing as it is for more than the individual players involved, some players will find their ban must be upheld, for the good of the game.
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Sorry, but I have to make a correction: Please submit a Support Ticket. Support is gathering and reviewing all appeals. ArenaNet is involved in setting parameters and may be involved in assessing the appeals. But emailing or PMing me is not going to be fruitful -- appeals must go through Support.
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Offering to buy the game and start over may or may not influence your appeal.
Mickey
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10242767
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Earth
Well, knowing you, I think you could start over. But, it'd be hard, I guess.
I wouldn't buy a new account until you're sure they won't ban you again.
I wouldn't buy a new account until you're sure they won't ban you again.
Ctb
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Pretty much nobody plays with a fixed, traceable IP address.
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If you're playing on dial-up, it's different, but people on DSL and cable effectively have static IPs most of the time.
Also, all IPs that would be useful in playing an online game are "traceable". Even if you have a different IP, you're still on the same netblock, and if they thought something was up they'd have a good starting point to investigate the new account.
Mickey
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Well, knowing you, I think you could start over. But, it'd be hard, I guess.
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Elrodien
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When DHCP leases are renewed, you almost always get the same IP address assigned to you that just expired. You can try and change it by powering down your modem and restarting it, but even that's not guaranteed.
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Earth
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I agree. Can I get my character name off my main banned account now though? Can I ask support to do that?
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Shai Lee
I would say to just submit a support ticket and ask. However, make sure that whoever responds has the authority to give you a definitive answer of yes or no you may not. Might be a good idea to ask further questions like, "Ok, you've allowed me to start a new account, what do I do if it's accidently banned again because they didn't realize I have asked prior permission first that was officially given? Is there some reference number/confirmation number that I can give them to verify that I have officially been given permission to create a new account?" Or something like that. I'm sure you wouldn't want just anyone from support giving you permission or saying that they 'believe' it would be alright when they have no authority for granting/denying something.
Just some of my thoughts, anyway.
Just some of my thoughts, anyway.
Ouchie
I would find out how far the ban extends - is it just GW Nightfall - or does it include Factions and Proph as well as GW:EN and does it extend to GW2 or other games?
Jaythen Tyradel
IF I were banned and had to start over, I wouldn't use any name or similarity to any name I had on a previous account. Call it taking extra precautions to prevent rebanning.
Second idea instead of buying everything, try a trial account?
Second idea instead of buying everything, try a trial account?
Earth
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I would find out how far the ban extends - is it just GW Nightfall - or does it include Factions and Proph as well as GW:EN and does it extend to GW2 or otehr games?
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Mickey, Shai has some good points ;o - You should ask that stuff.
Jaythen Tyradel
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I would find out how far the ban extends - is it just GW Nightfall - or does it include Factions and Proph as well as GW:EN and does it extend to GW2 or otehr games?
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Curious...
Shai Lee
@Earth
It's because I learned from that BMP situation. :P
Mickey, don't accept any answer like: "We believe at the present time that you won't be banned for making a new account." They could change their minds later after you spent the time and money in re-starting a GW account..:P
/still moody over the BMP situation but I shush! :X
^_^
It's because I learned from that BMP situation. :P
Mickey, don't accept any answer like: "We believe at the present time that you won't be banned for making a new account." They could change their minds later after you spent the time and money in re-starting a GW account..:P
/still moody over the BMP situation but I shush! :X
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Jessica The Mesmer
Well,2 friends of mine both had their accounts banned awhile back perma.....they both started over....no issues.
furanshisuko
the ip addres assigned by your isp is static wont change even if your using a router i would say if you want to play gw change your isp register your isp under some one else name like mom,dad i dunno but it will work and register a new gw account whit different info ,also dont buy the game in the plaync store