Lack of cooperation & Jerks

What is it with people running off during missions and quests (I do Prophecies PvE).

Although I haven't been playing this game that long (a week before Christmas) I figure it's pretty much a given that when you're out questing or on a mission with other people that after a large skirmish you wait for people to regen before running off to the next skirmish. Am I wrong? I can understand that if you've been playing the game with a group of people with whom you're familiar that such a thing as checking in wouldn't be necessary, but when you're with a pug, shouldn't that be the thing to do? And as a side, the mini map is a very handy tool but very few people use it.

Another thing I wish people would remember: Not everyone playing this game is running their hundredth character through the missions and quests. There are people like me where this is new and cool and I want to see the mission cutscenes dammit! They're nicely done, it's fun to watch and it tells pieces of the story. Just be patient for Gods sake. I had a player during the Frostgate mission yell at me for watching the cutscenes and then proceeds for the rest of the mission to call me names and act like a misogynist jerk.

So, is there any protocol I'm missing here or am I just unfortunate to deal with people who don't get it? I'm starting to dread cooperative missions. Just for the record, I have hooked up with a few good groups for missions/quests but it's becoming a rarity.

I've said it before, and I've said it again.

If you add a shortcut, it doesn't become an option, it becomes the only option.

"Skip" the cutscene is a prime example.

Ive met people who've beaten the game but don't know the story.

Pathetic really. People assume everyone should and has to skip the cutscene all the time.

So report him and put him on ignore.

That's the one big thing about this game I don't like: there are about 50,000 immature jerks, and only 8 slots on your ignore list...

When you join tell them you are new to the game and playing for the first time through and that you would liek to watch all cutscenes.

Left click on your energy bar when you need to regen--your group will see you're low and most recognize its a request to regen. Watch your cut scenes all you want--I have run my hundredth character through every mission and I still watch them. Some like them, some not, but you're entitled to watch once you put in the effort to complete the mission imo.

P.S.: if there are more than 2 people in yoyur group, no one knows who didn't skip unless you tell them. :P

PUGs can be very frustrating. My advice would be to join a friendly guild where people will take the time to regen after battle, and don't mind that you want to watch a cut scene, and even take breaks during long missions.

Yea, im afraid you just witnessed one of the creme de la creme of GW.... but dont worry.

Ive had many good PUGs to compare to a few which made me think of either crying for the loss of future humanitys inteligence or laugh at the amount of stupidity which can be condensed and refined into one body.

I usually watch the cutscenes unless im in a hurry myself. If anyone asks afterwards I say I skipped with the rest.... if im feeling particualrily evil Ill tell them at the end of the mission just before the final cutscene if someone is being a particularily big jerk about it.

You've answered your own question. Prophecies? PvE? The two combined make for unpleasant things like Mending Wammos waving an FDS around or rangers with Firestorm.

Lol...yep jerks all around. Get yourself Nightfall or EoTN, and use heroes or find a good Guild.

Welcome to the world of pugs.

It's tough out there as a new player. Unfortunately for you, the game has been out for 2+ years and yes, most folks are running their 100th character thru Frostgate. But that's no excuse to act like a jerk. If someone starts acting up and cussing me out for no good reason, I just leave. If they can't learn to control their temper and play nice with others, then they shouldn't be in a pug.

Watching the cutscenes for the 5th or 6th time can be annoying, but I understand of course about new players. If you really want to watch, go ahead. The team doesn't know who didn't skip unless you tell them. For me, I'll usually do a mission that I've never completed before with henchies only. 2 reasons:
1. I really like the cutscenes and want to watch them thru in peace for the first time.
2. I don't like to complete a mission I've never done with a group of "experts" that are on their 10th or 20th time thru it. The result is that my character sorta coasts along with the group and I never really learn the mission. I also find it annoying when a Level 20 joins my Level 5-8 group and basically runs the entire thing. I know some people love that, but I prefer to earn my rewards.

Find a good guild and make friends in the guild. They can help you out by answering a lot of the "stupid newbie questions" that you'll have for a while yet without making fun of you.

People leaving in the middle is also super annoying, but sometimes can be avoided with a good leader. The most common leavers are...
"mommy says I gotta get off the computer now. bye"
"OMG!!! ARE YOU GUYS COMPLETE MORONS??? I'M SUPER ELITE AND NOT WASTING MY TIME WITH YOU JERKS!!!111!!!!1337!!!! BYE!"
"oh, um...huh? how do you move again? what's a skillbar?...what does this key do? <click>"
"Sorry guys, didn't realize this mission would take longer than 1 hour. Bye"

A little pre-planning can weed out most of these before you leave town.

If you want some ingame help, contact "The Scarlet Raven" or "The Amethyst Mage" ingame. I won't run you thru missions or give you free stuff. I believe you should earn them yourself. (You'll feel better later), but I'm willing to answer questions and join you on a mission.

One possible reason why people are rushing are time limits in missions. That is why people might want you to skip the cutscene. Such things should be discussed before entering mission. However, most missions in Tyria are bonus based and can be done at a slow pace. Unfortunately, since many pugs lack battlefield awareness, they may run away without noticing your location. Also pugs may be insensitive to your interest in the storyline.

The experience you described is one of the reasons some people prefer Tachikoma over a pug. One solution for your situation is to find a good active guild that can help you with your adventures.

Mmmm....don't give a s**t about them and watch as many cutscenes as you want? That's what I used to do

Watching a cut scene is something that I too enjoy doing and continue to do, however you always have that person/s that like to get through the mish ASAP. Just ignore them and don’t let it bother you. Your playing in a cooperative mission, cut scenes are part of the game and if you want to watch them so be it.

As far as the continuity among other players as a team? You will find good PUG's and bad PUG's. Some go into a mission rushing like banchee thinking they can just go in sword swinging the monk will keep them alive with ZERO mana. Pinging your energy can slow things down. Ping it until its annoying and maybe someone will notice and slow down. I cant tell you how many times a mission has failed for me when someone goes in like a bat outta hell only to have an entire party wipe.

Im glad to see there are new players to the game such as yourself. We were all noobs at one point in time, unfortunately today, a majority of the players GW’s think they are pretty good when the cold reality is the majority really blows at the game mechanics, the story line and a true understanding of how to play the game. Keep it up and don’t let foolish players like this discourage you.

Fal, you're not doing anything wrong. You are, unfortunately, just ending up with the Eric Cartmans of the gaming world.

I've been playing for over a year now and even though I know my way around places, quests, and missions, there's nothing that aggrivates me more than a party that will not take 10 seconds to rest (assuming we're not working on a time limit masters), or stick together, or rush through things.

If I do end up in a Party of random human players and I see things being rushed to the point where even my energy gaining skills can't keep up with the rushing, I'll often speak up politely with something like "Sorry guys, but do you think we could pause here for 10 seconds just to get my energy back up?" More often than not the other players will say "Sure!". I just want to make sure I'm as effective as I can be and having a full, or close to full energy bar helps that.

As for the cut scenes, if you haven't seen them, continue watching them. If someone gets mad, shrug your shoulders. I know that might sound just as rude, but not everyone has been playing for 1 and 2 years. Again, you watching them is not wrong in any way.

Or overall, just find me to party with you I don't even rush when I'm just hero and hencie a quest, or mission. And the cutscenes can make great screenshots or wallaper. I am a screenie addict.

Watch the cutscenes, period.

I don't know where you are in the game, but by the time you get to Thunderhead Keep, you will have met almost all the types of people that play this game. You will encounter the so called 'Experts'. The ones that want you to ping your skill bar and use only the skills they tell you. The first timer like you. The helpful ones, the silent ones, and I don't know how they do it, but those that chat up a storm right through the battles.

PuGs are interesting, fun, and can be a pain in ths @$$. Learn to be tolerant or like someone above said, skip ahead a couple of chapters to get help with the first one.

you had a great point at the begginging here. People have deved from it a tad, but yeah, thats why I liked the earlier, IE first year and a half of this game the best.. No one left once you got a good group. You could do half the game together if people had time. Now people leave if you go w/mo .. its not ahorrible build, depending, but man the bad rep. LOL

Yeah just watch the cutscenes and enjoy them. It doesn't matter what people say because they aren't a waste of time. Deep down they know this too, because whether they watch them as well, or use the time for a snack and/or bathroom break, the time still wasn't wasted. :P

The whole not skipping cutscenes is a part of PvE that everyone goes through (I know I had a lot of fun pissing people off not skipping scenes, back when minions died during them). Also, there are always going to be morons in GW, learn to ignore them.

another thing nicer about earlier in this game. Everyone A, hadnt seen them yet, or B, hadnt seen them 10 times over yet..

I also enjoy reading, playing games, Long walks on the beach, and Spending time with my 4 children, working for a living, and doin it wid da ol lady. OK OK im way outaline now.. /ban

I'm not exactly sure how they would know that you were the one watching the cutscene.

I'll skip cutscene if I've seen it already and don't want to see it again. But if someone isn't skipping the cutscene, I consider that a fridge run.