Urgh, I'm sick and tired of idiotic PVE characters going into RA thinking that their PVE equipment is uberh4x, when in fact, it gives them and their team a significant disadvantage.
For example, about 5 minutes ago, a warrior came in with starter armor saying he was "Saving up 4 armor plz give me mony". Why can't there be a restriction (or even a full out ban of) PVE characters playing PVP?
It's annoying. I don't care if this has been posted before, it's unbelievable.
Armor level requirement in RA
Hermos
Unholy Tank V
lol a Ban for playing the game.......... But I do agree with the Armor level requirement but not getting banned
Kanyatta
There should be a requirement that you need to have 5 pieces of maximum armor equipped for RA or something, I hate getting on the team with that warrior that thinks he's hilarious by showing up naked to the battle, then Frenzy+HealSig or something. I don't think an outright ban of PvE characters in the PvP areas would suit the community to well, although you do bring up some valid points
Kanyatta
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lol a Ban for playing the game.......... This is a ridiculous post
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pygar
@ the OP, I can see some of what you are saying, but really removing PvE players from PvP will only do so much.....there are plenty of people who dont know jack in RA running PvP only toons and generally sucking at it.
RA is the kiddie pool of the PvP circuit, and it should always be that way (noobs have to start somewhere) If non-experienced players in RA are stressing you out too much, you prolly should just go to a higher tier of PvP, where chances of having a noob blow it for your team are less likely.
RA is the kiddie pool of the PvP circuit, and it should always be that way (noobs have to start somewhere) If non-experienced players in RA are stressing you out too much, you prolly should just go to a higher tier of PvP, where chances of having a noob blow it for your team are less likely.
Steboy93
It's Ra, it's meant to be random
At least it provides you with a good laugh
At least it provides you with a good laugh
Kanyatta
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genofreek
/notsigned. As noted, everyone has to start somewhere, and RA is as good a place as any. You're going to get noobs and trolls, but that's why you get better and graduate to higher-end PvP. Why penalize players who don't make dedicated PvP characters?
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by genofreek
/notsigned. As noted, everyone has to start somewhere, and RA is as good a place as any. You're going to get noobs and trolls, but that's why you get better and graduate to higher-end PvP. Why penalize players who don't make dedicated PvP characters?
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Go back to the old RA system, with the Fort Koga, Da'lessio Arena, and whatever the heck those other PvE arenas were and just leave Battle Isles RA to PvP characters only, and just give glad point rewards in the Battle Isles.
I think it would make a lot more sense
ShadowsRequiem
IF you want to play vs real players maybe you should get out of the lowest form of pvp ever.
seriously I think the academy fight in presearing has people with better builds...
seriously I think the academy fight in presearing has people with better builds...
Diddy bow
Whats the point? Really? RA will still be full of wammos, they will just take longer to kill.
Oh and go jump off a cliff for suggesting the full ban of pve chars in pvp =D
Oh and go jump off a cliff for suggesting the full ban of pve chars in pvp =D
Operative 14
Perhaps they should ban people who consider playing this game a lifestyle, as opposed to relaxation, and then you wouldn't be affected by 'idiotic' PvE characters who are in fact just new players. There's my question, how do you become a good PvP player when the PvP community has absolutely no tolerance for anyone that's just starting?
Anyhoo- /signed for the idea of having an armor requirement. And the idea of banning PvE characters is probably one of the worst ideas I have ever seen suggested on this forum.
Anyhoo- /signed for the idea of having an armor requirement. And the idea of banning PvE characters is probably one of the worst ideas I have ever seen suggested on this forum.
BlackSephir
I can see why, but I doubt they'll add this. Think about it, first max AL, then mending banned on warriors and so on.
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
RA is designed to be a transitional area. It teaches basic PvP mechanics to new players (who often come from a PvE background). It is NOT designed to be a l337 area. Play TA or HA if you want "real" PvP. The only reason RA exists is to get new players into PvP. Your suggestion stops that.
One of the worst things A.NET did was give gladiator points in RA. They made a non-competitve sand-box style PvP area competitve.
RA is designed to be a transitional area. It teaches basic PvP mechanics to new players (who often come from a PvE background). It is NOT designed to be a l337 area. Play TA or HA if you want "real" PvP. The only reason RA exists is to get new players into PvP. Your suggestion stops that.
One of the worst things A.NET did was give gladiator points in RA. They made a non-competitve sand-box style PvP area competitve.
mrmango
RA forces you to be lvl 20 now, so why not armor as well? (Plus, pvp characters can only great max AL armor, not 15 AL for stuff like 600 monks, which obviously don't belong in pvp but I'm just saying it.)
RPGmaniac
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Oh and go jump off a cliff for suggesting the full ban of pve chars in pvp =D
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I have like 2-3 PvE characters that are completely specced for and able to run a lot of the PvP builds for their profession. The only difference between them and a PvP character is they have better looking armor. That wouldn't go over well for people like us.
And if it's that big of a deal, I'll /sign for armor restrictions considering how easy it is for most of us to meet.
pygar
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Originally Posted by mrmango
RA forces you to be lvl 20 now, so why not armor as well? (Plus, pvp characters can only great max AL armor, not 15 AL for stuff like 600 monks, which obviously don't belong in pvp but I'm just saying it.)
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bilateralrope
/unsigned for blocking the PvE characters.
/signed for blocking people without max armor for RA and AB. Considering that having lower armor weakens you, and therefore your team, I can see how it may be considered griefing.
/signed for blocking people without max armor for RA and AB. Considering that having lower armor weakens you, and therefore your team, I can see how it may be considered griefing.
Skyy High
I wonder how many top guilds would find themselves entirely unable to play if PvE characters were suddenly banned from PvP. xD
Seriously, a PvE character can be just as good (or better) than a PvP character. Restricting all PvE characters = epic fail.
Now, restricting anyone who doesn't have at least the minimum armor of their class, /signed. They already restrict it to level20, so I don't see the harm in this. Collector armor is always there if you really can't afford max armor but want to do PvP (or, you know, roll a PvP char).
Seriously, a PvE character can be just as good (or better) than a PvP character. Restricting all PvE characters = epic fail.
Now, restricting anyone who doesn't have at least the minimum armor of their class, /signed. They already restrict it to level20, so I don't see the harm in this. Collector armor is always there if you really can't afford max armor but want to do PvP (or, you know, roll a PvP char).
the Puppeteer
maybe also some kind of build blocker - if your build sux ass - gw program recognizes it and wont allow you to do pvp
j/k
no more lightning hammer - inferno monks plz! ><
j/k
no more lightning hammer - inferno monks plz! ><
Tyla
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/unsigned for blocking the PvE characters.
/signed for blocking people without max armor for RA and AB. Considering that having lower armor weakens you, and therefore your team, I can see how it may be considered griefing. |
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Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Skyy High
I wonder how many top guilds would find themselves entirely unable to play if PvE characters were suddenly banned from PvP. xD
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Seriously, a PvE character can be just as good (or better) than a PvP character.
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gameshoes3003
I would like it if there was some armor limit to the lower level arenas...
Seriously... 15k armor on a level 7 in the Ascalon Arena... little unfair for those who just started the game and their armor is very limited.
But I have never encountered one without max armor aside from the fools who go in with no armor and 85 health and suicide on the enemy.
Seriously... 15k armor on a level 7 in the Ascalon Arena... little unfair for those who just started the game and their armor is very limited.
But I have never encountered one without max armor aside from the fools who go in with no armor and 85 health and suicide on the enemy.
mrvrod
As far as an al requirement
/notsigned
Really, an idiot is an idiot. You can make a max armor requirement and they could still strip right after entering.
/notsigned
Really, an idiot is an idiot. You can make a max armor requirement and they could still strip right after entering.
ShadowsRequiem
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Umm... that number would be 0, because they would all just roll a PvP character
Umm...no, it can't be better. You can get all the stuff you need for PvP with a PvE character. If you are UAX, and have every possible weapon/armor combination in the game, then your PvE character is just as good as PvP character. |
gosh get it right.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
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maybe also some kind of build blocker - if your build sux ass - gw program recognizes it and wont allow you to do pvp
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thatd be awesome!
/Signed for blocking with people with Non-Max AL
Kanyatta
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I dont think you understand.... People only play high end gvg to show off stuff..... not to..... well errrr play..
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If so, I lol
If not, I /sob
Stormlord Alex
/signed for blocking non-max AL
Make Mending, Healing Breeze, Barrage, Power Shot, Flare etc. PvE skills? 
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block all wars from entering with healingbreeze/mending/healing hands ect...
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Kanyatta
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Make Mending, Healing Breeze, Barrage, Power Shot, Flare etc. PvE skills?
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RPGmaniac
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As far as an al requirement
/notsigned Really, an idiot is an idiot. You can make a max armor requirement and they could still strip right after entering. |
DarkGanni
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Originally Posted by genofreek
/notsigned. As noted, everyone has to start somewhere, and RA is as good a place as any. You're going to get noobs and trolls, but that's why you get better and graduate to higher-end PvP. Why penalize players who don't make dedicated PvP characters?
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Agreed with genofreek on that everyone has to start somewhere.
/notsigned also
Operative 14
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Umm...no, it can't be better. You can get all the stuff you need for PvP with a PvE character. If you are UAX, and have every possible weapon/armor combination in the game, then your PvE character is just as good as PvP character.
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thedeadlyassassin
so I can make a cool looking character but not have her/him in PvP because of what noobs do?
I say make the armor requirements count, but a ban for PvE in PvP? That's just stupid
I say make the armor requirements count, but a ban for PvE in PvP? That's just stupid
Skyy High
No, I was talking about equipment. There's still some random items that PvE characters can get that don't have matches in the PvP item creation. For 99.999% of situations, a maxed out PvE would be exactly the same as a PvP char, but there still are more options for the PvE char, so you are still technically better off with one.
And, I guess you missed the "xD"; the top guild comment was supposed to be a joke, implying that most top GvGers use PvE chars. Or do you really think I think someone who PvPs wouldn't know what a PvP char is? =/
And, I guess you missed the "xD"; the top guild comment was supposed to be a joke, implying that most top GvGers use PvE chars. Or do you really think I think someone who PvPs wouldn't know what a PvP char is? =/
serod
/signed for not letting any chars without max armor inside
Getting really tired of sins without max armor that die in 2 blows from an ele --'
Getting really tired of sins without max armor that die in 2 blows from an ele --'
Ben-A-BoO
/notsigned
Like stated by genofreek and Dark Ganni ... it is and should be a starting / testing / training ground for pvp ... nothing more.
Realizing that non max armor is crap is part of the learning process as well, yes it is that basic in RA ...
You want Glad points? please go to TA
You want fun and don't care ... well you can have great laughs in RA ... and do yourself a favor don't call someone in RA a noob ... it's where you are allowed to be one.
Like stated by genofreek and Dark Ganni ... it is and should be a starting / testing / training ground for pvp ... nothing more.
Realizing that non max armor is crap is part of the learning process as well, yes it is that basic in RA ...
You want Glad points? please go to TA
You want fun and don't care ... well you can have great laughs in RA ... and do yourself a favor don't call someone in RA a noob ... it's where you are allowed to be one.