Save Yourselves on Assassin?

why would you need locust's? just use mobius +DB. should give you plenty of adrenaline.

Quote: Originally Posted by Coloneh

Quote: Originally Posted by Turtle222

Not in adrenaline gain

so? you dont need the adrenaline gain.

SY! is better on Paras than on Warriors because Paras are ranged.
On the other hand Warriors have a bit more armour.
Sins got the short end on both sticks...

so it'd be SY! + 7 slots to stay alive

It's a good idea but you said yourself that a paragon does it better. I'd slap "SY!" on a MS+DB build though, that would work very well.

What's up with all this 'non-survivability' crap I hear? If you pack Crit Defenses, WoP, Crit Agility, and Shadow Refuge if you really suck, you've got the equivalent of ~13 health regen (about 20-25 if you've got SR), 75% chance to block, and ~105 armor (with Nightstalker's). Plus, everyone else on your team's got perma +100 armor. No, you might not do quite as much damage as a warrior, or have quite as much survivability as a paragon, but you're more a mix between both. Oh, and if you've got some nice buffs from allies (Like Order of Pain or the Vampire), you can easily get close to 100 DPS.

Personally, I run duo assassins, each with save yourselves (Friend and I), with FGJ,it works fine with the rest of our set up, moebius+death blossom+critical agility, by the time you get to moebius with the first two attack skills we have the ability to maintain save yourselves for the rest of the fight, easily mitigating alot of dmg each of us would take+the rest of the party

Though Locust's Fury could supercharge SY! quickly, I don't think you should devote the whole build to keeping SY! up...Moebius + DB could gain adrenaline well enough, and at the same time output some sweet damage; you could throw FGJ! in there if you wanted too. I'm not Assassin expert, but I don't like the idea of autoattacking :P

Meh, unless you've got 7+ rank for 5s on SY!, you can't keep it up indefinitely with Moebius, and will have over a second of non-SY! And anyway, just have someone bring Great Dwarf Weapon (or whatever it is - the one that KD's), and a Crit Locust can pump out some good damage. IMO, if you don't have a paragon or a warrior, 'Sin takes the place.

I keep waiting for someone to say with any of the builds

Lack of [skill]for great justice[/skill]

Now you can spam to your hearts delight

You don't need FGJ on a Crit Locust. You're already spamming it every ~4 seconds.

I know I was just waiting for someone to post it

Moebius/DB is like 4 adrenaline every 2.5 seconds (one dual, one offhand, and one auto attack). So SY!, at 4s, would be up for 4/5 of the time. With a high enough title, it would be up all the time. Even without a 5s SY!, though, I'd rather have that and 90 DPS rather than +100 armor up all the time.

With FJG you can keep SY! up for 20 seconds; after that, most of the mob should be dead so you don't need it up permanently anymore.

you dont even need a single adrenaline skill to keep up a SY on a sin...
A guildie ran SY withe regular Moebuis bar on a vanquishing trip, and believe it or not SY was kept up almost all the time during fights.
And YES sins die quick, but wth----->[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

Quote: Originally Posted by Coloneh

Have MoW slot Dark Fury/Mark of Fury. Or go /N yourself.

Going /N yourself would kinda defeat the purpose of SY! now wouldn't it?

Oh wait, this isn't the Warrior forum (Guildies FTW)