PvP Needs A HM Mode!

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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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I am suggesting for an addition to the PvP aspect of the game. PvP is stall, boring, and too easy in its current form. Something is wrong when I go in HA with a team with no runes, no insignias, no weapon mods, and only 4 skills each and hold for hours. Something is wrong when I can do the same in GvG and get ranked in the 50s-100s.I know of numerous high ranking PvPers such as myself, that are looking for a challenge. PvP Hardmode needs to be introduced. HM in PvP? Yes, HM for PvP could increase damage taken, reduce damage done, reduce armor, reduce the number of skills (4 maybe?), increase skill re-charge.
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arsie
Wilds Pathfinder
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Like how? Importing better players from other games?
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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Originally Posted by arsie
Like how? Importing better players from other games?
What? I'm confused...
Cargan
Cargan
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
eh... just do it without any armour or skills. Or maybe take some time to teach people how to play so they give you a better challenge.

HM PvP? that really doesn't make sense since the difficulty is all dependent on other humans.
End
End
Forge Runner
#5
Your concept makes little to no sense imho
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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Originally Posted by Cargan
eh... just do it without any armour or skills. Or maybe take some time to teach people how to play so they give you a better challenge.

HM PvP? that really doesn't make sense since the difficulty is all dependent on other humans.
I tried GvG and HA with no armors but didn't work out to well, best my team has done is playing with only the chest pieces - nothing else and holding halls 10 times good fun. Anywho

Yes, it is dependent on humans but you could stack the favor towards one side. Example - PvP Easy Mode - Stays the same as things currently are. PvP Hard Mode already listed.

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Originally Posted by the end is near
Your concept makes little to no sense imho
Add 2 modes to PvP

HM - Reduces Health/Energy, Increases Recharge Time, Lowers Armor, No Runes Allowed, No Insignias Allowed

Easy Mode - Everything stays the same.

What doesn't make sense?
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#7
Hm... and how do you plan to do it?

Increase level, armor, action speeds for NPCs?
Allow only players with full equipment (forbid entrance to players with non-perfect armor, weapons or with empty upgrade slots)?
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Hm... and how do you plan to do it?

Increase level, armor, action speeds for NPCs?
Allow only players with full equipment (forbid entrance to players with non-perfect armor, weapons or with empty upgrade slots)?
Just add an effect called Hard Mode that would reduce health/armor/energy, increase recharge time, disable runes, disable insiginias.. Would be pretty easy to implement.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
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Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.
What? How is that not hard mode... You have every setting harder...

Obviously playing on a crappy internet connection will make you lose no matter what we are discussing so that is not really an issue.
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
#11
ummm lvl 32 guild lords plz

k thx bye
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
ummm lvl 32 guild lords plz

k thx bye
Only level 32? Only the guild lord? I said a CHALLENGE.... All NPCS should be level 35 with the guild lord being level 40.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Add 2 modes to PvP

HM - Reduces Health/Energy, Increases Recharge Time, Lowers Armor, No Runes Allowed, No Insignias Allowed

Easy Mode - Everything stays the same.

What doesn't make sense?
WTF??
So, you will make everything prone to spikes?
More of a "3...2...1" race to me....
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Only level 32? Only the guild lord? I said a CHALLENGE.... All NPCS should be level 35 with the guild lord being level 40.
maybe you should just jump off a bridge and make life easier.... I mean HARDER for all of us.
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
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WTF??
So, you will make everything prone to spikes?
More of a "3...2...1" race to me....
Because there is nothing to prevent spikes right?

Interupts?
Conditions? Blind? Daze? Cripple?
Prot Spirit?
Spirit Bond?
Infuse?

It's also called HM for a reason... It is meant to be a challenge not c+space.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Because there is nothing to prevent spikes right?

Interupts?
Conditions? Blind? Daze? Cripple?
Prot Spirit?
Spirit Bond?
Infuse?
A: spikes are usually in teams
B: read A
C: enchant removal right before spike, and usually DW delivers the killing blow.
D: spikes are usually put to recharge as soon as, and your forgetting AoE spikes, not to mention people are vunerable to the spike anyway so one single slip up messes up the preprot
E: just makes the infuser vunerable

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It's also called HM for a reason... It is meant to be a challenge not c+space.
You've never played a spike team have you? No, thought not.
Spike teams aren't c-space, your thinking of Zergway minus the spamminess.
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.
Exactly.

This does... nothing. If you play in "HM PvP" or whatever so will everybody else. It won't make the game harder or better. It will just shift everything laterally. If EVERYBODY has the same debuffs/buffs done to them, then its no different then the norm.
Div
Div
I like yumy food!
#18
You guys fell for it. OP is clearly a troll. Hold for hours? Get in top 50 GvG? Pics or get ready for a ban.
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#19
I call this thread complete BS
Duke.07
Duke.07
Ascalonian Squire
#20
No matter how you alter the gameplay, lower health, lower energy, increase damage and whatever, it will still depend on the skill of the players. A sucky player will still suck in HM PvP, and the "elites" will still have no challenge. All the sucky players will just shift over to HM, because no one will be left in NM, and you will be stuck in the same position.