Here comes the spam?

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
Sooooo stealing that picture
(edit: though... is that not a teapot? )

Posting this on bhavv's behalf. I'm 99.9% certain his library of pictures isn't as vast as mine.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

No I dont have any pictures, but I soooo needed a 'NO U' right there lol.

TY

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by razuel
How is that racist? It's a fact-- the Asians I played with in Diablo had poor English skills and spammed a lot. I didn't say anything derogatory about their race, I have plenty of Asian friends.

So please, don't try to make something out of nothing.
Actually it is racist so stfu.

OT: I don't think it will be a problem. In fact, the poor Koreans are going to have everyone trolling their districts ^_^

eeks

eeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, Australia

Lubricated Volcano Love [Club]

Rt/Mo

And Asian players' apparently crappy grasp at English is worse than a majority of first language English-speakers on Guild Wars... How?

WTS Elite 'Tomb', anyone?! Only available to the terminally ill, yet rich unfortunately.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
The real problem is how to /report someone named, say, 천상 스팸 메일 .
Click on the player.

Type /report.

TADA.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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/close please

Full of racist undercurrents. Its not dirrect... but it is too much of a powder keg to discuss on a forum.


Furthermore... how the heck would this increase spam exactly? Each district instance has a limited number of people that can show up at any one time. Its not like "more" people are going to be able to squeeze into a district then before.
It is just a stupid complaint that isn't thought out at all that relies on racial prejudices for its arguements for its hypothesis.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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This is so not true, how many days have it been since the district thingy been activated and i still don't see any more spam then there already is when the districty thingy was not activated.


HAHAHAHA and there's a good thing about Korean district that I am not telling you guys. i am so playing on the Korean server from now onwards. :P~

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Ive been playing in korean districts since this update was available. Less people unfortunately, and virtually no spam... BECAUSE THE SPAMMERS GO TO ID1.

And the people there speak clearer english

>wins thread<

<3 korean district and the guild tags look awesome.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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i can tell u already there is going to be ALOT of people asking to buy asian minis in the districts, even though a small porportion of the asian districts have one such pet.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Actually it is racist so stfu.

OT: I don't think it will be a problem. In fact, the poor Koreans are going to have everyone trolling their districts ^_^
if you call the above statement racist,then your remark is racist aswell,L2notbehypocrite

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk
if you call the above statement racist,then your remark is racist aswell,L2notbehypocrite
Actually, no. Racism is hatred or intolerance of another race (source: Dictionary.com). A statement referring to a race in a non-derogatory manner is not racist. So, saying "Have you ever played Diablo II with Asians? It's hell." is a derogatory and intolerant statement with regards to Asians. Saying "the poor Koreans are going to have everyone trolling their districts" is neither derogatory nor intolerant of anyone.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Actually, no. Racism is hatred or intolerance of another race (source: Dictionary.com). A statement referring to a race in a non-derogatory manner is not racist. So, saying "Have you ever played Diablo II with Asians? It's hell." is a derogatory and intolerant statement with regards to Asians. Saying "the poor Koreans are going to have everyone trolling their districts" is neither derogatory nor intolerant of anyone.
it imply's that Americans and Europeans troll more then Asians......
(I don't find it offensive,but neither the remark he quoted.)

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk
it imply's that Americans and Europeans troll more then Asians......
(I don't find it offensive,but neither the remark he quoted.)
It doesn't imply nothing of the sort. It clearly states "everyone trolling," which even includes the Koreans - in other words, there will be lots of people about. I think you read a bit much into it.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
It doesn't imply nothing of the sort. It clearly states "everyone trolling," which even includes the Koreans - in other words, there will be lots of people about. I think you read a bit much into it.
"poor asians " HAVING their districts trolled
anyway,I rest my case,its just what you want to make out of it I guess.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Please, please, people. For the sake of those that really suffer from racism, please let's not make this an argument that shouldn't be. I'm not saying that people are or are not telling racist statements on this thread, I'm just pointing to the fact that this is a serious offense and we should not use the word lightly.

I guess this thread should be closed if it continues on this path.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

I agree the thread should probably be closed. The thing that really bothers me is that some people can't see what they are saying maybe racist.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

It's very easy to tell if a statement is racist: if it makes a sweeping generalization based on race.

E.g. "asians play Diablo2 poorly" is racist.

On a sidenote: as with all sweeping generalizations the statement will always be wrong.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

What a retarded thread this is.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
It's very easy to tell if a statement is racist: if it makes a sweeping generalization based on race.

E.g. "asians play Diablo2 poorly" is racist.

On a sidenote: as with all sweeping generalizations the statement will always be wrong.
You're dumb.

"Asians play Diablo 2 AWESOME" is racist according to you.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

"Asians play Diablo 2 AWESOME"
You dont say. That is racist too, like saying black men have big... Feet.

Any generalisation or judgement of a race is racism. Why are there so many uneducated twats on this thread? :-(

Back in the 70s and 80s white brits used to make the comment 'Aww look at the cute little chocolate kids' to describe black children. The people saying it thought it was cute and a compliment, the kids it was said too and their parents found it offensive. You dont decide what racism is and isnt. If you say anything along the lines of 'this race is like this' you are being racist.

Nodensis

Nodensis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

United Provinces of the Netherlands

Legend of the White [Moa]

Rt/A

to go back on topic:

I like the fact the districts have opened, since i only use the search function to sell/buy my stuff, or just use this forum. Plus, my dealings so far with asian district is that they speak english quite nicely.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodensis
Plus, my dealings so far with asian district is that they speak english quite nicely.
Yep. Its not that they speak english nicely or any better, its just that euro and american districts are full of retards that speak english incorrectly. Funny isnt it?

Remember celebrity big brother with Shilpa Shetty in it? Lady from India spoke perfect, mature, and fantastic english, whereas the british retards in the house that bullied her spoke like a pack of filthy scumbags. Its so stupid that common joe in britain or america cant speak real english without some kind of local moronic slang that makes them sound braindead.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

I enjoyed my visit to the asian district..
I met some folks from the boards here...and a very sweet War Machine guildie.
The chat was light, the idiocy non existant...I felt I was in the twilight zone...people ....were.....being.....NICE.

razuel

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

If I had said that they suck at Diablo because they're Asian-- that'd be a racially driven statement. I said that playing Diablo with Asians was hell referring to their spam and poor English. I should have included the word "some," but the fact remains that I thought it was a given that not every Asian is annoying. I could say the same thing about Canadians or Germans probably, but the topic was directed at Asians.

I agree with the person who said the word racist shouldn't be thrown around lightly. I don't think any of you are able to judge whether I'm racist or not by a loose, joking statement on a forum. The statement obviously wasn't politically correct and if any Asian here was seriously offended by it, I apologize.

I also agree, /end thread

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by razuel
If I had said that they suck at Diablo because they're Asian-- that'd be a racially driven statement. I said that playing Diablo with Asians was hell referring to their spam and poor English. I should have included the word "some," but the fact remains that I thought it was a given that not every Asian is annoying. I could say the same thing about Canadians or Germans probably, but the topic was directed at Asians.

I agree with the person who said the word racist shouldn't be thrown around lightly. I don't think any of you are able to judge whether I'm racist or not by a loose, joking statement on a forum. The statement obviously wasn't politically correct and if any Asian here was seriously offended by it, I apologize.

I also agree, /end thread
You have my respect for above statement.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

This thread needs to be deleted for one reason - I dont want the rest of you following me to GW's paradise district.

Lock + delete thread please.

Earlier today i were in an english district and people were having an emote spam. So I joined in for fun. Some big time loser decides that instead of unchecking emotes, he would flame, abuse and report us all for spamming O.o

Emotes are fun spam and easilly deactivated.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

Quote:
This thread needs to be deleted for one reason - I dont want the rest of you following me to GW's paradise district.
But, I like the district too!!
When folks just drop by ONE time, and take a peek...I'm sure the negative remarks will end.
Really guys..it's an amazing spot....people actually have fun there!
(And...*gasp* I saw the building of a community...right before my eyes!)
I'm going back today....to have fun, and be with nice peoples that don't seem to care about 'leet'...'uber'..and such.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

no point. /request lock

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle222
What a retarded thread this is.
Seriously. I came in here looking for a discussion, not "SINGLNG PPL OUT = RAICEST OMG"

I don't see how this is going to make any difference. :P There's already plenty of French Canadians and Europeans chatting away in their first languages in US district, plus asian character/guild names all over the hub cities, so I doubt I'll even notice.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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I thought that this (very long) article was related to the topic at hand here and that it was worth mentioning:
http://www.danwei.org/electronic_gam...away_in_zt.php

It's very long but really worth it.

(note: no flame or racism intended, rather an attempt to look at the culture differences; and I know that China is not Korea or Japan, and I do not intend to suggest that there's a drect relationship, apart from pointing at the differences in particular in business practices)

(note 2: RMB = China's currency)

(note 3: the article is both different from the point of view of the MMO described, but also its perception as it seems that the journalist is a bit biaised against MMOs; the translator's note mentions this also)

Excerpts:
Quote:
Like ZT Online creator Shi Yuzhu says, this is a game well-suited to the rich. In this world, the authority to bully others and the legal right to harm them are both for sale.

Although everything is virtual, Lu Yang once believed that she could find a golden road to glory and dreams. But like so many others, Lu Yang discovered that what was crafted from the endless inflow of RMB was actually a road to bondage.
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The story is well-suited to Chinese tastes. The sole perplexing thing is this: after you get all excited about it, you discover that the gap between the ideal and reality is quite wide. A newly-born ID is at level 1, while the most courageous heroes among the kings can reach "reincarnate level 170": after bringing a normal character to level 168, they gain a new incorruptible body and can reach level 170. Simply put, this is the difference between a mortal and a god. Heroes wield "Perfect Sacred Weapons", and they are enveloped in the purple aura of nobility, while you stand empty-handed, clad in only a pair of shorts to hide your nakedness.

Now you can purchase a point card to pour RMB into your game account, allowing you to ascend levels more quickly and purchase precious materials with which to craft equipment. You do not have to spend money; if you don't, if you only sit there within the game, then the system* will take not even a single penny from you. But you will quickly discover that you are unable to kill even a mosquito in that wasteland, and your movements are restricted to the place where you were born, a small village called Qingyuan; the wide world outside is for heroes. Of course, even more discouraging is the fact that you, a descendant of royalty, will live forever under the threat of another player's secKill.
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Lu Yang may not be aware that as she was running herself dizzy, a gamer called "Send only Naobaijin" was making his way through the same game. He was impatient with the tedium of upgrading, so he purchased a high-level account instead, and he spent thousands to craft the highest class of equipment. Paving his way with money, he achieved incredible power within a short time. In this typical Korean-style "kimchi" game, he struck out on his own with new experimental gameplay. This gamer was the future boss of ZT Online, Shi Yuzhu.