4-men sf/fa hero builds. Improvements/thoughts

Hey everyone. I've always liked to play/farm in SF(Sorrow's Furnace)/FA(Final Assault) so a few weeks ago I started doing these runs occasionally with my 3 heros.


I use the following setup:

Myself(W/P):
12+1+1 sword
12+1 strength

[skill]signet of return[/skill][skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]enduring harmony[/skill]


Olias(N/Me):
12+1+1 death magic
9+1 soul reaping
9+1 curses

[skill]blood of the master[/skill][skill]animate shambling horror[/skill][skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]virulence[/skill][skill]enfeebling blood[/skill][skill]epidemic[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]inspired hex[/skill]


Tahlkora(Mo/e):
12+1+1 healing prayers
10+1 protection prayers
8+1 divine favor

[skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]signet of rejuvenation[/skill][skill]shield of absorption[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]aegis[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill]


Razah(Rt/Mo):
12+1+1 channeling
9+1 communing
7+1 spawning
6 healing prayers

[skill]splinter weapon[/skill][skill]warmonger's weapon[/skill][skill]ancestors' rage[/skill][skill]wielder's remedy[/skill][skill]mighty was vorizun[/skill][skill]caretaker's charge[/skill][skill]flesh of my flesh[/skill]

This is mainly the reason why I'm posting here, Razah's build. I'm not at all happy with it and I want it changed. Only problem is, I'm not sure how, and to what I'd change it.

I've been thinking about either changing Razah for:

Zhed(E/Rt):
11+1+1 Fire magic
8+1 energy storage
11 channeling magic

[skill]mind blast[/skill][skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill][skill]ancestors' rage[/skill][skill]splinter weapon[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]

Or

Livia(N/Rt):
12+1+1 Curses
8+1 soul reaping
10 channeling magic

[skill]spiteful spirit[/skill][skill]reckless haste[/skill][skill]barbs[/skill][skill]mark of pain[/skill][skill]ancestors' rage[/skill][skill]splinter weapon[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]


I seem to prefer Livia's build to replace Razah at the moment but I need some more thoughts on this. If you have a completely other build, feel free to suggest it(I really really want splinter/ancestors' in it tho).

And ofcourse what's always welcome are general thoughts/ideas to improve any of the heros' skillbars.

What I don't need are comments like: It's just normal mode, everything will work. I'm only using 4 people, and I want their builds to be as good/efficient as possible.

Oh, one last thing. I've always noticed those rare pugs forming 5-men teams. What's their team build ? I've never really payed any attention to them but I'd like to know now


Thanks for any replies

I'd use a Resto-Channeling hybrid with Razah.

[skill]Offering of Spirit[/skill][skill]Ancestors' Rage[/skill][skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill][skill]Essence Strike[/skill][skill]Life[/skill][skill]Spirit Light[/skill][skill]Mend Body and Soul[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

He uses Offering of Spirit very well and it's much more worthwhile than Mighty was Vorizun + Caretaker's Charge in my opinion.

First glance of Zhed's build: Take out Glyph of Lesser Energy, or use an elite other than Mind Blast. He doesn't need both. I heard Heroes don't use Mind Blast well anyway...

If you were going to switch Razah for one of the others...I'd say the Necro build. SS is always handy.

I will replace Gole with something else and keep an eye on his energy

As for the rit build, I think I'm overdoing it on healing with that but I'll give it a shot on my next run and see how it turns out.

And that's 2 votes for the SS instead of Razah then.

Enfeebling Blood might not be the best idea on Olias. Virulence inflicts Weakness so try and slip a different condition in there (hard i know) to use it to its full potential.

I've been thinking about that a lot Wakka, but I just can't find a necro/mesmer skill that easily applies another condition.

weaken armor gives cracked armor

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