Newbie question about Elites

Laraja

Laraja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Descendents of Honor

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My character is a lvl 17 Ele/me and in Lions Arch I received my first Signet of Capture. Problem is, I have no clue who and where to use it.

I did read Guru and Guild Wiki, and I know that I stand over a defeated boss that has my skillset and basically capture his/her/its elite skill and the signet is replaced by that skill, but which bosses am I looking for? I know what and who bosses are but which ones? Are they specific ones during specific missions or quests? Do I just go blindly looking for them? Does a certain boss, say Meany McRodgort, give Rodgorts Invocation or is it random which boss gives which?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but there's actually very little info on this other than find boss, use signet on boss.

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

It's defined which boss gives which skills, as on the Wiki page for each boss. Generally though, I'd hang on to the two free cap sigs until I can get an Elite skill, as the normal non-elites are easily bought.

If you want a skill, hunt the boss down. Use the Wiki to find out their spawning points, and if they're a Prophecies boss, literally hunt them. They spawn randomly in a set of pre-determined areas within a map. It's any boss, whether in mission or not.

Good luck.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Bosses with elite skills don't start popping up till later, the first are in the crystal desert missions with more in the later areas. You can capture normal skills, but its really a waste. The best way to get normal skills earlier is to go mess around in pvp till you get 1k balthazar faction, unlock the skill and then you can buy it from any trainer in the game. That's probably the best way to get Rodgort's Invocation since otherwise you would have to wait till nearly the end of the game.

Foslock

Foslock

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Vermont

VIP

P/Mo

Scroll down to the bottom of this page:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Elite_Skill

And it will tell you all of the elite skills of each profession and if you click on an elite it will tell you which bosses have it.

Getting elite is sometimes easy or sometimes hard, but don't forget that your heroes would be a lot better off with elites and so you can change your secondary profession to theirs and capture elites for them.

Keep in mind that you can only have one elite on a skill bar at any time.

Laraja

Laraja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Descendents of Honor

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Perfect adviced from all of you. This is exactly the stuff I needed to know. And I'll check specific boss pages on Wiki. I thought I was missing something but it just looks like I need to be farther along in the game.

Timotheus Amadeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

First Defense [FD]

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Also a very handy to find out where Elites are located is MappingOut, you can download it at www.mappingout.com, it just points you out to the location of the desired elite. It's just a standalone program with maps. It doesn't affect your GW gameplay.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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Basically a cap sig lets you learn any skill a boss of the same profession of you has. Elites are the better choice for many reasons such as (until tomes where released) being the only way to get an elite.

prophecies itself doesnt have the best elites for ele but a few are ok.

Searer

Searer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Oh My God We [Win]

E/A

If you have Factions, NF, or EotN, these site will help you.
Factions
Nightfall
Eye of the North

In fact, SoC can be used on boss who have no elite too, but that will be a waste of the Signet.

Dooglash Sontoosh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Heroic Dragons [HERO]

E/Me

Yah, Searer is right, if you have nf, factions, or eotn, it will be a lot easier for you to get elites, but if you don't have any, then gl.

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

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I remember when I capped Mind Blast with Mind Burn on my bar. That was really fun...

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendar Muert
I remember when I capped Mind Blast with Mind Burn on my bar. That was really fun...
oh shit
Red bars go bye bye

but the good elites in proph are

Mind Burn(I know Guru doesn't like this skill, but if he has proph only then this will serv him just fine)
Elemental Attunement
Water Trident

thats about it for proph only

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Isn't ward vs harm okay as well because fire els are still found in PvP?

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Isn't ward vs harm okay as well because fire els are still found in PvP?
Nobody is going to waste their Elite slot on something that partially shutdowns a very specific type of gimmick you might not even encounter.

Quote:
Mind Burn(I know Guru doesn't like this skill, but if he has proph only then this will serv him just fine)
Elemental Attunement
Water Trident

thats about it for proph only ...EProd > Mind Burn.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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woops forgot about
ether prodigy

Searer

Searer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Oh My God We [Win]

E/A

Is Ether Prodigy really THAT good? Comparing to other elites in Proph

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
but the good elites in proph are

Mind Burn(I know Guru doesn't like this skill, but if he has proph only then this will serv him just fine)
Elemental Attunement
Water Trident

thats about it for proph only u missed thunderclap xD

Necrotic

Necrotic

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

The mists

Co-founder of Knights of the Phoenix

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Something else I would like to mention regarding capturing non-elites....normally this is ill-advised as you can almost always buy a non-elite from a trainer easier or get it as a quest reward which would cost you only the time to complete quest. However there are some non-elites which are very good or at least desirable but only attainable from a trainer much later in game....but may be captured a lot sooner if you know which boss uses it.

Several Dervish skills can be capped in Kourna via the avatar bosses but only bought in the Mouth of Torment.

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

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oh, forgot to mention the exp gain. if you capture and elite (not a normal skill) you gain 250 xp per level. so if you are level 10 and capture and elite, you gain 2,500 exp. if you are lvl 20, you get 5000. that's per each elite, too, so you can do that multiple times.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
u missed thunderclap xD meh I never really liked thunderclap all that much

but i will admit keeping an entire team down in RA is just funny as hell

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Necrotic
capped in Kourna via the avatar bosses but only bought in the Mouth of Torment. PvP unlock buy from almost any trainer in NF problem solved

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

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problem with that is that eventually the skill costs 1k anyways...so you either have to do a couple of rounds of pvp, or you can buy signet of cap and cap it in PvE. either way works, but me personally, I hate ABing just for a skill.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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lol have you ever heard of zaishan farming?