City of Torc'qua farming as Ele [img heavy]

yishin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Isle of Meditation

30 Jan 2008 at 09:24 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

UPDATE: Tried to complete City without success today. Since you have to kill every margonite just to get into the fortress, the energy wont allow you (too few enemies attacking in the end). It is possible that I'm just not capable of doing this, thus I need some testers. Replace AoR with GoS and see how far you can go, post back results/screenshots.
Appreciated. I was trying last week but as you can see from the screens I'll post it's not necessary your build is awesome as it is. Here is a screenshot of how many your build can tank:

Here is another screenshot were you can see that I killed all the guards inside the city on top of the wall. But since there were too few enemies I ran out of energy. (Time is around 20 minutes).

I have played quite a few days last week with your build and I had great drops (a couple of black and white dyes, lots of gold and many gems. I think only this week these runs got me around 150-200k but I played quite a lot though). And DOA is hot atm everyone seems to want to have a tormented weapon so you can sell those gems easily. A screenshot of a good run:

I brought a few heroes and flagged them at beginning just to use them when there are too few margonites, but I never got to it (after playing so much I kinda got sick of DOA

. It would be a great challenge to be able to clear City with your build and some heroes (just for the part with less enemy for the energy). But I'll pass for now I am taking a break from DOA.

Once again great job, and thnx for the guide.

ripslyme00

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

knockdown

D/W

30 Jan 2008 at 11:09 - 42

just wondering yish what is your norn and lb ranks?

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

30 Jan 2008 at 14:50 - 43

Yishin, I would like to thank you personally for taking time evaluating my build, sure is appreciated. Also thnx for yer kind comments

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripslyme00

just wondering yish what is your norn and lb ranks? Check Notes/Top of guide. No max titles are needed

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

08 Feb 2008 at 16:21 - 44

-Update-
Guide updated with video for Build 1.
Check it out!

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

08 Feb 2008 at 20:41 - 45

I've been running this build and so far it's been the best for me.

[skill]Stone Striker[/skill][skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Mantra of Earth[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill]

Visage drains the melee of their adrenaline so they have no way of using Magehunter's Smash and also deals extra damage with Famine.

Just make sure you don't stand next to the Margonite Rangers; otherwise they'll have no energy to fast Quickening Zephyr and you'll be screwed.

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

10 Feb 2008 at 11:05 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

09 Mar 2008 at 17:36 - 47

So, I've finally managed to get the hang of this build to stay alive, but I've
got another problem.. they simply won't die.

Most of the time I end up boxed in by 4 dervs and from there it just goes on until I get tired of it and quit.

Any hints on where I go wrong?

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

09 Mar 2008 at 17:46 - 48

Try to get close to a monk, because he is healing them. Or use Sympathetic Visage variant and drain 'em.

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

09 Mar 2008 at 17:54 - 49

I've tried to move a round to get Sliver to target teh monks but no luck so
far.. I'll give the other build a go to see if me luck turns.

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

09 Mar 2008 at 18:05 - 50

If you keep Sliver Armor active for a longer time, it will eventually kill or make one of the nearby Melees run away, this need to happen twice. Once this have happened, Sliver Armor will target the monk (which should be around, as it walks out of the group when healing).
Also, this process might take a while, once took me 3 minutes just to get the monk down.

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

10 Mar 2008 at 18:27 - 51

Well.. I'm back to dying all the time.. they're just too slow on getting QZ up
so I'm forced to recast enchants while it's down... utter failure.
O well at least I gave it a go.

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

10 Mar 2008 at 20:25 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

Well.. I'm back to dying all the time.. they're just too slow on getting QZ up
so I'm forced to recast enchants while it's down... utter failure.
O well at least I gave it a go. As said ealier to some other dude - AGGRO AT A DIFFRENT TIME! To find the right timing is the key to making this farm successful!

Lethorn Maeran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Myth and Legends [Myth]

10 Apr 2008 at 23:15 - 53

I'm able to tank and kill a few...but I keep getting burned to death.....this is using mavericks build..

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

11 Apr 2008 at 09:20 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lethorn Maeran

I'm able to tank and kill a few...but I keep getting burned to death.....this is using mavericks build.. Check the first page and use BUILD 1, as it seems to be the easiest one to use.
It has anti-burning protection

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

18 Jul 2008 at 03:26 - 55

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

21 Jul 2008 at 16:08 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by KycooGhost

So i've done this a few times and I can only seem to do the first large mob. are these builds not ment to do more than the first group or am i just doing a poor job of energy management and enchantment up-keep? This build is capable of soloing just about everything before you enter the fortress in City of Torc'qua. I usually just kill the first 3 groups of enemies as they:
Only consists of 1 monk
Several rangers
Gives gemstones (duuh

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Torrent

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Celestial Twighlight

E/Mo

13 Oct 2008 at 16:54 - 57

does this still work?

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

13 Oct 2008 at 17:15 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torrent

does this still work? have you tried it?

kiddster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ohio

Republic Of Shadows [RoS]

13 Oct 2008 at 19:04 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuarodger

have you tried it? /Insert unneeded answer

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

14 Oct 2008 at 10:31 - 60

Yes this still works.

Huiboo

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

AofT

16 Oct 2008 at 16:34 - 61

Might this aswell work wit a perma sin/ perma ele?
Dont see why not but i dont know to much about this area so i might be wrong.
Perma might (if it works) be faster than ur build since u can throw in some buffs for sliver armor.

Is this farm profitable anymore anyway?
What gems drop there (gems do drop there right?) and for how much can one sell them atm?

Sry if my language is bad im not native english but i hope u understand what im trying to say anyway

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

16 Oct 2008 at 17:40 - 62

The dervishes have PBAOE so you would need a hero to survive, there are builds for this on pvxwiki. This, however, is the only build (atm) thats viable solo for elementalists.

The farm is as profitable now as it always have been, you get occational gems and lots of golds.

Margonite gems drop from Margonites (obviosly)

Keira Nightgale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Gulfstream Owners Club [GS]

Rt/R

16 Oct 2008 at 18:58 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Hello there, this is my first guide on these forums so be gentle with me.
I got so bored with farming gloom over and over again, so I figured I'd explore the other areas to check for farming possibilites, and you might just guess what this guide is about.

Now for the good stuff.
HM of course
r4 Norn is required. on another note you can achieve the same results with a 105 hp monk subbed mesmer with both visages, this way you can abuse quickening zephyr for Shield of absorption/spellbreaker and use the margonite's famine as your dmg output. It can possibly done in hm as well, usually 1-3 gems per 2-3 runs. Props on the build btw.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

17 Oct 2008 at 00:27 - 64

Well, while this build is novel, it really isn't cost effective for the time it takes. There are faster farms, but it's not a bad way to solo to get LB points.

TheDragonmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

19 Oct 2008 at 18:53 - 65

There's still one thing bugging me about this build: On your first page you say that you need rank 4 Norn. The peron that posted this on PvXWiki also stated that rank 4 Norn is needed. However, since it lasts for 16 seconds (and recharges in 15 with QZ up) at rank 1 Norn, this statement is a bit pointless, no? Since at the time you get it, you can cycle it constantly.

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

19 Oct 2008 at 18:58 - 66

well easy to awnser why, the guide was written b4 the update on pve only skills to make them more effective@ lower ranks. So thats why you now only need r1 instead of r4.

~cheers, Wraith~

TheDragonmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

19 Oct 2008 at 19:03 - 67

Been plenty of time to update, don't you think?

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

19 Oct 2008 at 19:32 - 68

The person who posted this on pvx wasnt me. The person who posted there basicly copy pasted my guide there.
I made this when r4 was needed, I'll change to r1 in the main guide..

TheDragonmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

20 Oct 2008 at 11:24 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

The person who posted this on pvx wasnt me. I am aware of that, and had no intention of implying that it was so (however, the person who posted it on PvXWiki is guilty of laziness, since he/she posted it after the update (unless I'm mistaken), and didn't check

Huiboo

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

AofT

22 Oct 2008 at 00:12 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keira Nightgale

on another note you can achieve the same results with a 105 hp monk subbed mesmer with both visages, this way you can abuse quickening zephyr for Shield of absorption/spellbreaker and use the margonite's famine as your dmg output. It can possibly done in hm as well, usually 1-3 gems per 2-3 runs. Props on the build btw. What do u mean by 2-3 runs.
What is a run for u? Killing like the first 3 gruops at the start or giong on after that and kill the other groups (which imo is hard since u need to go out of the spirits range for that).
I killed the first groups 15 times and got only 1 gem and 1 goldie.
The groups never dropped more than 2 items in 1 runs - mostly white crap.

So to me the run is not profitable at all.
Or maybe its just really bad luck.
Let me know about ur drops.

Nice build and guide anyway

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

22 Oct 2008 at 07:54 - 71

If you use EBSoH instead of Frigid Armor it takes apx 5 minutes to clear everything outside of the fort. The spirit part is a bit tricky yes, you have to time the patrolling group that walks outside the gates of the fort.

Gangstnerd D

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2008

[POHS]

22 Oct 2008 at 20:16 - 72

Great stuff, yea i took EBSoH instead of Frigid Armor and it went faster, not as smoothly but faster. Really great alternate for people that arent scared of their health dropping.

Thanks Kottis

the slasher

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Knight Of Echovald[KoE]

12 Jun 2009 at 16:28 - 73

well, I've been thinking about getting an ele, and this gives me yet another eason to do so: I've always dreamt of farming at DoA, and you certainly encouraged me^^ great guide, everything very well explained with screenshots (which helps alot). to sum up, you did a great, great job, IMO

batno_mercy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Myth

12 Jun 2009 at 22:53 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by the slasher

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

12 Jun 2009 at 23:01 - 75

Pretty redundant eh? Thanks for all the kind comments, and that some people still use this

Filoupette

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2009

E/R

13 Jun 2009 at 19:50 - 76

tried 15 times can't stay alive too long.

batno_mercy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Myth

13 Jun 2009 at 20:05 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filoupette View Post

tried 15 times can't stay alive too long.

Um, using a staff with +20% ench would help i think, no?

sportacus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Burninating the countryside

13 Jun 2009 at 20:37 - 78

I tried this about a year ago, and I wasn't very good at it. I'm going to give it another shot, now that I'm generally significantly better at the game.

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

13 Jun 2009 at 21:28 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filoupette View Post

tried 15 times can't stay alive too long.

Read the main guide properly. You need 20% ench and +4 for earth magic.

sportacus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Burninating the countryside

14 Jun 2009 at 00:00 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Read the main guide properly. You need 20% ench and +4 for earth magic. How do you ensure that QZ stays up? It keeps dying on me , and I can't perm obflesh.