Avatar of Balthazar

No, Ursan is a hell of a lot stronger. Not for any DPS reasons but because it pretty much can't be shut down except by skill disable or heavy edenial. It doesn't care about conditions, most hexes, blocking, or spell immunity.

If AoB was like, "Your attack skills become non-spell, non-attack skills", then you'd be getting close to Ursan.

Quote: Originally Posted by horseradish I believe you're one of the more competent persons on this forum. XP Thank you Although I might be able to think of a few people who might think differently.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sirugel Kai I'm not saying I use any of that .. but
Maybe.. Just MAYBE they're new to the game That IS a possibility you know?

Just because someone has never been told "AoB is bad" doesnt mean they are bad for using it.. They're just uninformed or new..

In my opinion you can't be "bad" at a game where about all you do is click and smash buttons. There isn't much talent in there. XP There are plenty of better dervish skills available at the point where AoB is capped. Avatar of Dwayna is far superior in terms of defense, and I found it easier to cap than AoB, and if you just need an elite to fill a spot on ur bar Reaper's Sweep is right next door and definitely beats AoB.

If all you're doing is mashing buttons and clicking ur mouse, I think YOU are new.

Quote: Originally Posted by Arkantos Or maybe...just MAYBE, older players are running this too? When you're talking about bad players and bad skills, you're talking about players in general, and not just about new players. New players will run bad skills because they don't know better. Take a look on the forums, you'll see people who have been playing since 05/06 running crappy bars. They're not new, they're not uninformed, they're just bad. Those are the players we're, and most discussions about bad players and skills, are talking about. XP That's what I was talking about when I was starting this thread.

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Grenth probably should get a duration at least on par with Dwayna and Melandru - even then I don't think I'd use it, but it at least wouldn't be such a laughing stock.

Enchantment removal is rarely a big deal, either in PvE or PvP (where people that stack enchantments on themselves are stupid anyway).

I used it for the first level of Shards of Orr for getting to Gadd's camp. I may well use it when I go back to actually do Shards completely (though I'm still leaning towards Mel for that).

Otherwise, you do look freakin' cool while it's on. Very "meh" elite.

...no, definitely use Melandru for Shards of Orr, just take a holy damage conversion enchantment on top of it. It'll work much better because you won't be getting blinded and doing no damage all the time.

Yes, AoB does look pretty cool. Sadly that's one of the best things about it. :/

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Quote: Originally Posted by bpphantom

I like Dwayna, personally, although I do agree that Lyssa looks a bit ... off.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

I like how Lyssa's head looks and the overall color scheme, but i do not like the little bulging panties. >__>

Avatar of Lyssa + Radiant Scythe ftw

Quote: Originally Posted by horseradish

The only reason I have ever found for using Avatar of Balthazar was for the holy damage, since some missions require fighting undead. For standard play PvE, I much prefer Dwayna and Melandru.

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Personally I would take AoB over Ursan but that's simply because I hate Ursan more than anything else in the game (only other thing that comes close is Obsidian Flesh tanking).

I'd rather take a decent skillbar over both of them.

id rather take AoB. because then you can have 7 good skills. Ursan kills your skill bar.

lol ursan is for lazy warriors and lazy warriors alone any other class runnng it should just un instell gw right now.

Obby tanking needs to f'n die already.

The only use I found for AOB was running from beacons to droks.

I know VoS is better but i like this way cause its funny how few people actually relize that AoB is bad so they think you are pro and give tips on top of pay many times, plus its more fun that vos if you ask me. VoS is so dull there is no skill required anymore for a dervish to run droks.

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