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Valkyries

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

AoM

19 Jan 2008 at 08:52 - 1

Hi all,

I have been a long time GW player but I quit just before Nightfall.

Im highly considering getting back into the game because I really love the PVP and Im curious how the new (semi new I guess) xpac is.

So a few questions. I have 5 level 20's. A necro, Rit, Mesmer, Warrior and Monk. Which would be the best choice to go through the xpac? I was always a big fan of my Mesmer, how is this class now for PVE/PVP?

I want to PVP most of the time but I figure I'll go through the PVE portion to get some new gear on what ever char I go with.

Currently I know almost nothing of the current game's state so any advice would be really appreciated. I'm leaning towards my Necro or Mesmer but I have no idea how the new skills compliment each class and what would be the best decision. I also want to be able to use the newest skills to PVP with, so keep that in mind please when posting.

Thanks for all who reply!

Cheers
Valk

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 08:57 - 2

Mesmers still suck in pve and nobody wants them. Necro MM's are still very well liked and easy to get in a group or even play with your heroes/henchies. PVP is still the same ole cookie cutter style of pvp. It still has it's elitist who think their stuff is better than anyone elses and they know all. The best fun pvp areas are still AB and FA and perhaps if you're just really into chaos RA. You can play through all the chapters an even the expansion now in normal mode without hardly any effort at all. I can sit back and watch my heroes and henchies play most of the time and not do anything but pick up the loot. Even in hard mode I can play with as few as my 3 heroes and nothing else and still not have to do anything but loot in many places. It's a lot EASIER than it ever was before. Don't be surprised if you don't become bored rather rapidly.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 09:00 - 3

just try everything and see what you like best. we can't tell you what you'll like and whats best for you. cmon now

Valkyries

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

AoM

19 Jan 2008 at 09:02 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

just try everything and see what you like best. we can't tell you what you'll like and whats best for you. cmon now

Ummm ya that's original.

C'mon, I was curious about how much its changed in the past year or so...

If you don't want to post anything constructive don't post at all.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 09:09 - 5

ok then.
it's changed this much -->--<--
omg buy the expansions and come pug with us
lol

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 09:11 - 6

Mainly Valkyries everything is just easier and they are just giving away all the equipment from the Zashien chest drops you can use keys on that you get from 5k Balth faction from pvping now. So, since you like PVP you'll be able to get a chitload of rare weapons now out of that chest. Yes crystalline swords, elemental swords, reavers, you name it it will drop it eventually. They have dumbed the game down so much an 8 year old could play it blindfolded.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 09:13 - 7

^so basically it hasnt changed but theres some new art

Valkyries

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

AoM

19 Jan 2008 at 09:54 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

ok then.
it's changed this much -->--<--
omg buy the expansions and come pug with us
lol

You should go play Warcraft... I just came from there, you would fit in well with the immature elitists there.

Thanks for everyone else who had something useful to contribute

I'll give it a go and see if the game is still worthwhile to play. I guess I'll do that before I go buy the xpac. The game was very well done when I started playing over 2 years ago. It's very sad to hear they seemed to have ruined that and the fun factor. Hopefully I can still get some enjoyment, if not I guess its off to LOTRO or Conan

Thanks for the comments guys, its' appreciated.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

19 Jan 2008 at 09:57 - 9

Since you haven't played for a while it'll be fun for you, for a bit. I'm not sure how long. They changed way too much to post here, go read wiki.

Also when talking about immature elitists, this is the game you want, nothing else.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

19 Jan 2008 at 10:18 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

just try everything and see what you like best. we can't tell you what you'll like and whats best for you. cmon now

I agree with this and dont understand the OPs attitude towards it.

No one else can tell you how to play, how is it being elitist saying play what you personally enjoy?

Valkyrie get a grip or go back to wow yourself.

And to actually answer your question so you dont flame me for not contributing, you can play any class in PVE and use Ursan Blessing. Sounds like just the skill for you.

Balan Makki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

19 Jan 2008 at 11:01 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkyries

Hi all,

I have been a long time GW player but I quit just before Nightfall.

Im highly considering getting back into the game because I really love the PVP and Im curious how the new (semi new I guess) xpac is.

So a few questions. I have 5 level 20's. A necro, Rit, Mesmer, Warrior and Monk. Which would be the best choice to go through the xpac? I was always a big fan of my Mesmer, how is this class now for PVE/PVP?

I want to PVP most of the time but I figure I'll go through the PVE portion to get some new gear on what ever char I go with.

Currently I know almost nothing of the current game's state so any advice would be really appreciated. I'm leaning towards my Necro or Mesmer but I have no idea how the new skills compliment each class and what would be the best decision. I also want to be able to use the newest skills to PVP with, so keep that in mind please when posting.

Thanks for all who reply!

Cheers
Valk

Well, there is actually lots to do. Try Hard-mode for a challenge, it should take some time to learn all the tricks. PvP is light-years better than anything you'll have done in WoW. The game has become far more "Polished". It plays better than any MMO going. GWEN is a beautiful environment, has some nice new skills. NF is definitely worth it for the Hero System, very unique feature for an MMO. There is so much since Pre NF that you'll have plenty to do for several months.

Normal Mode did get easier as pointed out above, but that was done when Hardemode was implemented. So play everything in Hard-mode if you want to sweat a bit. No honor farmers in GW currently because of the new /Report feature, so you'll not get the same feeling of being Farmed, the way you do in Alterac Valley, WSG etc. .

Welcome back, and don't let the forums trolls bite you toes on the way out.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

19 Jan 2008 at 11:23 - 12

See above for fanboi opinion of the game. It's hardly all that he mentioned. It's more boring now if anything.

GrimEye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Rt/

19 Jan 2008 at 11:35 - 13

One thing I can suggest is, redo some missions with your favorite toons whith Heroes and Hench. Or with some pugs or guildies.

Look up PvXWiki to give you a start and try out some builds in RA for your favorite chars. PvXWiki

And, as Balan had pointed, watch out for your toes.

Balan Makki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

19 Jan 2008 at 11:40 - 14

Valk, keep in mind that the forums aren't usually as bad as this, there just seems to be a rash of trolls that appear whenever a new player or old player introduces themselves. They see it as easy bait. Because it's GW and not WoW you'll never have to worry about arse-hats like this while in game. That's mostly why they troll here. At Guru. If you're wanting less WoW-like dung in your forums try GWOnline.

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

19 Jan 2008 at 12:28 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkyries

Hi all,

I have been a long time GW player but I quit just before Nightfall.

Im highly considering getting back into the game because I really love the PVP and Im curious how the new (semi new I guess) xpac is.

So a few questions. I have 5 level 20's. A necro, Rit, Mesmer, Warrior and Monk. Which would be the best choice to go through the xpac? I was always a big fan of my Mesmer, how is this class now for PVE/PVP?

I want to PVP most of the time but I figure I'll go through the PVE portion to get some new gear on what ever char I go with.

Currently I know almost nothing of the current game's state so any advice would be really appreciated. I'm leaning towards my Necro or Mesmer but I have no idea how the new skills compliment each class and what would be the best decision. I also want to be able to use the newest skills to PVP with, so keep that in mind please when posting.

Thanks for all who reply!

Cheers
Valk

EotN is a lot of fun, imo, in spite -- err, ahem -- of what others may say. I have found it to be quite challenging and entertaining. (If liking GW makes me a "fanboi", well, so be it

.)

I'd say EotN will be more challenging for your mesmer than for the other other classes you mentioned, at least that was my experience. I have played a warrior, ranger, elementalist, monk, and mesmer through EotN and the mes got stomped the the most times -- but that could also just be an indication that I am "mesmer-impaired". lol

If I had to choose between Nightfall and Eye of the North, though, I'd probably get Nightfall -- more content, more fun. Again, just my opinion.

Can't speak to the PvP issue, as I don't.

Welcome back!

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

19 Jan 2008 at 13:14 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balan Makki

Valk, keep in mind that the forums aren't usually as bad as this, there just seems to be a rash of trolls that appear whenever a new player or old player introduces themselves. They see it as easy bait. Because it's GW and not WoW you'll never have to worry about arse-hats like this while in game. That's mostly why they troll here. At Guru. If you're wanting less WoW-like dung in your forums try GWOnline.

I agree, half the negative comments on this forum come from people who don't even play anymore.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

19 Jan 2008 at 13:31 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkyries

Im highly considering getting back into the game because I really love the PVP and Im curious how the new (semi new I guess) xpac is.

By xpac do you mean expansion pack, as in GWEN?

GWEN contains no pvp stuff, so if thats your main interest you might want to avoid it. But it does add a few nice pvp things like dungeons, extra areas, some new titles, armor, weapons blah blah blah.... oh and a lot of new heroes.

Its worth it to keep you playing for maybe a few more months. I liked it... but then I got bored and went to HGL for a change. I pop back now and again. It also has the "hall of monuments" which is usefull for gw2 to unlock unique stuff.

Also for pvp, they are selling a core skills pack in the online store now to give all pvp and pve characters all skills. You might want to check that out for both sides.

GWEN is cheap at play.com, so if you dont want to spend too much... check it out.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

19 Jan 2008 at 17:09 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Mesmers still suck in pve and nobody wants them.

Only the ignorant noob thinks mesmers suck. The rest of us know how valuable a good mesmer can be.

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

19 Jan 2008 at 17:46 - 19

Still less valuable than another ursan

Anyway, just get a free trial of eotn and try it out D:

The Riven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

None worth mentioning

P/

19 Jan 2008 at 18:06 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

The rest of us know how valuable a good mesmer can be.

Thats the worry though.

A good mesmer can and will be a great addition to any party, unfortunatly there are also a great many bad mesmers out there.

In the average pug where the players are an unknown the choice becomes do we pick the UB wammo or the strange looking mesmer.

Then again there are always heros to use.

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

19 Jan 2008 at 19:23 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selket

Still less valuable than another ursan

Anyway, just get a free trial of eotn and try it out D:

Ursan is for skill-less Leeroys who don't know how to play a real build.

Valkyries

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

AoM

19 Jan 2008 at 19:59 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balan Makki

Well, there is actually lots to do. Try Hard-mode for a challenge, it should take some time to learn all the tricks. PvP is light-years better than anything you'll have done in WoW. The game has become far more "Polished". It plays better than any MMO going. GWEN is a beautiful environment, has some nice new skills. NF is definitely worth it for the Hero System, very unique feature for an MMO. There is so much since Pre NF that you'll have plenty to do for several months.

Normal Mode did get easier as pointed out above, but that was done when Hardemode was implemented. So play everything in Hard-mode if you want to sweat a bit. No honor farmers in GW currently because of the new /Report feature, so you'll not get the same feeling of being Farmed, the way you do in Alterac Valley, WSG etc. .

Welcome back, and don't let the forums trolls bite you toes on the way out.

Thank you for the nice comments!

And thanks to everyone who replied with something useful to say...

To the few trolls who think they are better than anyone else, I didn't realize getting an opinion was such a bad thing on these forums. I've played a ton of MMO's and no one has ever flamed me for asking questions like this.... I know I'll play whatever class I want, but I wanted some details on the game and how it has progressed so I can make that decision.

To those who replied with a great attitude, I thank you once again. The rest will be going to my ignore list

Valkyries

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

AoM

19 Jan 2008 at 20:02 - 23

By the way... I've never even used the hero classes before, I quit before they came out

So that sounds like an interesting twist to the game Im looking forward to trying!

I think I'll go by EotS and run through the PVE content just to get my skills. Then I'll go PVP because as someone nicely said above me, its MILES past where WoW is in terms of PVP. I know this because I used to PVP quite a lot in GW back in the day... I figure its changed dramatically since then but I won't dare ask how....

I'll just go play, since the trolls here are just as bad as anywhere.

Thanksfully as someone mentioned I won't have to deal with that in game

One last question. I used to play on a European Server and now Im back in America... is there a way I can change geographics? I'll go look at the online help I just figured I'd ask while I was here

Thanks again for all those who had something useful to contribute. I really appreciated your comments!

Cheers!

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

19 Jan 2008 at 20:43 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkyries

One last question. I used to play on a European Server and now Im back in America... is there a way I can change geographics? I'll go look at the online help I just figured I'd ask while I was here

you can change it whenever you want at the district bar.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 04:24 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

Only the ignorant noob thinks mesmers suck. The rest of us know how valuable a good mesmer can be.

Only ignorant noob would be those who think mesmers don't suck. hahaha The majority of the people that play GW agree with ME and that's all that really matters. Only the losers that play mesmers and their friends would think like you cause we all know how badly they suck in pve. They are the last to be chosen of the unchosen professions. I've played the entire 3 chapters without ever using or needing a mesmer and mostly using just heroes and henchies, but, no mesmers required or needed or used.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 04:30 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balan Makki

Valk, keep in mind that the forums aren't usually as bad as this, there just seems to be a rash of trolls that appear whenever a new player or old player introduces themselves. They see it as easy bait. Because it's GW and not WoW you'll never have to worry about arse-hats like this while in game. That's mostly why they troll here. At Guru. If you're wanting less WoW-like dung in your forums try GWOnline.

oh no no no i troll much more harshly in game

and for the op. try www.gamewikis.org. its my favorite site for gw info. its very user friendly and has nice details

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 04:40 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT

Ursan is for skill-less Leeroys who don't know how to play a real build.

No, ursan is for people who want to blow through pve

ups

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 04:46 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selket

No, ursan is for people who want to blow through pve

ups

yes selket i agree with you. i used to speak down on ursan until i got into some good ursan groups. its near god mode when youve got a mob of warriors or paras spamming ursan skills while being fueled by a hb heal party monk