Ok, so I have a few questions before I buy Guild Wars.
1. Is the Guild Wars: Game of the Year Edition pretty much the same thing as the first except, you get the weapon when you start? Or is it different?
2. During online play, is it possible to play people that have different Guild Wars games? Such as, playing with someone who has Nightfall rather than Factions.
3. Is it hard to reach level 20? Level 20 seems pretty low compared to other MMOs.
4. Which game has probably the most people playing it?
5. Does the appearance of each class change based on the setting of the game?
Sorry if this is in the wrong place or something.
A few questions before I buy the game...
WaffleMoose
Crom The Pale
1. The game is the same, just a few bonus items added to it.
2. You can only play in the chapter(s) that you own, people that own more than one chapter can move freely between them all.
3. It is very quick and gernally easy to reach lvl 20. It is low to create a balance of skilled players vs those that have been playing for a longer time.
4. A large group of people have all chapters and move between them all, generally speaking the newest released chapters have a few more people in them.
5. In each chapter the setting is a bit different, so each class does look slightly different from Prophicies/Factions/Nightfall. Once you make a char its look does not alter when moving from chapter to chapter, though you can purchase different armor from each chapter to alter apperance.
2. You can only play in the chapter(s) that you own, people that own more than one chapter can move freely between them all.
3. It is very quick and gernally easy to reach lvl 20. It is low to create a balance of skilled players vs those that have been playing for a longer time.
4. A large group of people have all chapters and move between them all, generally speaking the newest released chapters have a few more people in them.
5. In each chapter the setting is a bit different, so each class does look slightly different from Prophicies/Factions/Nightfall. Once you make a char its look does not alter when moving from chapter to chapter, though you can purchase different armor from each chapter to alter apperance.
WaffleMoose
So, if I were to make a character with a medieval theme in the original, then moved them to Nightfall, they wouldn't change to a sort of Egyptian, Middle-Eastern theme?
2048
Nope, it will not change.
WaffleMoose
Is it possible for me to change, then change back to a style from a different game? And, if I had Nightfall, then got Prophecies, could I change to Prophecies' style? Sorry about all of the questions. :P
Biostem
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Is it possible for me to change, then change back to a style from a different game? And, if I had Nightfall, then got Prophecies, could I change to Prophecies' style? Sorry about all of the questions. :P
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1. Your character's facial features are based upon the game they were created in - so factions has more Asian faces and hair styles, while prophecies has more European ones.
2. The armor you wear, while functionally the same as every other armor for your chosen profession, looks different depending where you got it; so Nightfall armor has an African/Egyptian flair, while Prophecies is more European.
3. The equipment you get is also equivalent in stats, but looks vary - katanas in factions, broadswords in prophecies, etc.
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In general, I prefer Nightfall because of heroes and a good selection of skills. Factions has some very good specific skills, and many of the weapon models are top-notch. It is the shortest campaign, though. The other thing to consider is that prophecies has only the 6 core professions, while factions has them and 2 additional ones, and nightfall has the 6 core and its own additional 2 professions.
Also, keep in mind that level 20 is actually just an early point on the road that is the storyline to each campaign. Level is really only a small component to what your character is capable of. The real key is to get a good load out of skills for your character so he or she can really perform to their full potential. You'd be amazed how fulfilling finding that perfect combination of skills can be!
Songbringer
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So, if I were to make a character with a medieval theme in the original, then moved them to Nightfall, they wouldn't change to a sort of Egyptian, Middle-Eastern theme?
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no they wont they keep appearance. to get the "egyptian theme" you have to make it in the campaign with that theme
Songbringer
I would suggest buying nightfall first because it has a great tutorial area. reffered to in game as noob island usually. You have acess to heroes and can customize there builds wich make them better then henchmen(ai allies).
After that i would buy prophecies and gwen and factions last if your strapped for cash. If not buy them all and play them through in order they were released. Prophecies factions nightfall gwen. O srry gwen stands for guild wars eye of the north also reffered to as eotn.
Finally gwen/eotn is the only one that isn't a stand alone. So don't just buy that one.
Prophecies also has a nice starting area because it doesnt advance as rapidly as the other 2 stand alones. You have a larger area with monsters only maxing about about lvl 8 or so. That is called pre. After the pre searing. In that game when u go post (referring to post searing) You start facing larger lvl monsters. You have more of an ability to decide when your ready to do that though.
After that i would buy prophecies and gwen and factions last if your strapped for cash. If not buy them all and play them through in order they were released. Prophecies factions nightfall gwen. O srry gwen stands for guild wars eye of the north also reffered to as eotn.
Finally gwen/eotn is the only one that isn't a stand alone. So don't just buy that one.
Prophecies also has a nice starting area because it doesnt advance as rapidly as the other 2 stand alones. You have a larger area with monsters only maxing about about lvl 8 or so. That is called pre. After the pre searing. In that game when u go post (referring to post searing) You start facing larger lvl monsters. You have more of an ability to decide when your ready to do that though.
WaffleMoose
Oh, so you can't keep your character from previous chapters?
Griff Mon
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Oh, so you can't keep your character from previous chapters?
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WaffleMoose
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As long as you link your game at the time you set up second campaign (and others subsequent ones you may buy) you can travel back and forth between the chapters with any character created in any campaign after they reach a certain point in their respective game.
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Biostem
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So I have to restart when I start a new chapter? Or am I still the same level?
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So you do NOT need to restart your character when going from 1 campaign to the other, but you don't start at the end of the new campaign when you travel there form the other. You DO get to keep all your stuff, though.
WaffleMoose
Oh ok, but im still not really getting the appearance part. If you play as a Warrior in Prophecies, do you keep your knight-like appearance if you play Nightfall? Or do you switch to Nightfall's appearance of a Warrior?
Melei Hawke
If you create a warrior in prophecies and purchase armor from prophecies, no matter where you travel, your warrior will still look the same. Once you create a character, the facial features, height, hair style and hair color will never change. You can if you wish, change their armor if you like something from a different campaign but it is not necessary. If you bought your prophecies warrior factions armor...the only thing that would change would be the armor.
If you were to buy more than one game and link them together, your prophecies warrior could go to any of the other games you owned. He would not change...he would just travel.
Does this answer your question?
If you were to buy more than one game and link them together, your prophecies warrior could go to any of the other games you owned. He would not change...he would just travel.
Does this answer your question?
Biostem
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Oh ok, but im still not really getting the appearance part. If you play as a Warrior in Prophecies, do you keep your knight-like appearance if you play Nightfall? Or do you switch to Nightfall's appearance of a Warrior?
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Your character keeps *everything* when he or she travels between campaigns - it's just that you couldn't buy the same armor in Nightfall as you could in Prophecies - they look different, but you can still wear them...
Songbringer
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Oh, so you can't keep your character from previous chapters?
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Sorry should have clarified better. Your char can go to any campaign you own. However it looks the same in all of them (minus the armor if u change it). Make a prophecies char it gets midevil look, faction-chinese look, nightfall-desert egyptian style, gwen-cant create chars in
Kook~NBK~
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Ok.. let's say your warrior has plate armor on and he's from Prophecies. Now you travel to Nightfall. Your armor looks exactly the same as it did before. But now let's say you meet up w/ a warrior that started out in Nightfall - he will have armor that provides just as much protection as yours, but his looks completely different. However, since you can travel between the 2 campaigns, you could go and get the "native" armor from Nightfall, if you wanted.
Your character keeps *everything* when he or she travels between campaigns - it's just that you couldn't buy the same armor in Nightfall as you could in Prophecies - they look different, but you can still wear them... |
Edit: Here's a link that will give you all the info you need about armor: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Armor_types
Zebideedee
I have Eye of the North Asuran armour, when I travel to Nightfall area, I have Asuran armour, when I travel to Factions area, I have Asuran armour, I'm sure you can see a pattern developing 
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I think Nightfall and Factions has extra armours you can buy, but you come and go looking the same way you did when you arrived (unless you buy an armour from that campaign obviously)
. I think Nightfall and Factions has extra armours you can buy, but you come and go looking the same way you did when you arrived (unless you buy an armour from that campaign obviously)
WaffleMoose
Ah, ok. That's all I needed to know, thanks guys. ^^ ...Now to figure out which game to buy. :P
Crom The Pale
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Ah, ok. That's all I needed to know, thanks guys. ^^ ...Now to figure out which game to buy. :P
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Factions has some nice skills, 2 new proffesions(Ritualists and Assassins) however it has a steep learning curve(ie you reach max lvl fastest) and suffers from locked doors you must complete tasks to open inorder to progress.
Nightfall has Heros(NPC's who you can build to your liking and control) 2 new proffesions(Paragons and Dervish's) it has a balanced learning curve, some locked doors but mostly open ended.
If you can't afford all three I would sugest Prophicies, its the first and by far the largest of the three. (speaking of PvE content)
crime.mob
after that if you like pvp, DO NOT buy more campaigns just for their skills (backtrack: you can only unlock a certain skills depending on what campaigns you have. Prophecies has A LOT of skills for the core 6 proffs, while the others have less for the core 6 but have 2 extra proffs you can play with.).
Buy the pvp unlock pack that will allow you access TO UNLOCK everything needed to pvp, you won't automatically have it, but you have the potential to get everything in game for pvp (for 20 dollars). If you love pve way more than pvp, get GW:EN
If your only going to buy one, proph has a good skill pool to work form, longes (some say most boring) campaign, good looking armor, but only 6 proffs. Factions has a STEEP learning curve (but you max out fastest), 2 extra proffs, best pvp content of the 3, but least pve content. Nightfall you get heroes, 2 extra proffs, most balanced length of campaign (note that if you don't plan to get NF but get the expansion pack, GWEN, instead, you get heroes from there too)
Buy the pvp unlock pack that will allow you access TO UNLOCK everything needed to pvp, you won't automatically have it, but you have the potential to get everything in game for pvp (for 20 dollars). If you love pve way more than pvp, get GW:EN
If your only going to buy one, proph has a good skill pool to work form, longes (some say most boring) campaign, good looking armor, but only 6 proffs. Factions has a STEEP learning curve (but you max out fastest), 2 extra proffs, best pvp content of the 3, but least pve content. Nightfall you get heroes, 2 extra proffs, most balanced length of campaign (note that if you don't plan to get NF but get the expansion pack, GWEN, instead, you get heroes from there too)
WaffleMoose
I was thinking about Nightfall, then Eye of the North.
Crom The Pale
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I was thinking about Nightfall, then Eye of the North.
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This does not mean you wont understand it or follow the story in it, just that it answers some questions that are raised in Prophicies.
GWEN(guildwars eye of the north) does offer you some of the best looking environments of the entire game, and the powerfull PvE only skills as well.
WaffleMoose
Yeah, I know. PvE is one player, isn't it?
Sir Tidus
I would buy Platinum Edition so u have both Prophecies and Eye of the North at a better price. No, PvE is cooperative, u play with a party of other players or henchman, it's not one player.
crime.mob
in pve you can do it with up to 8 humans or by yourself with and npcs and heroes. At really hard parts you HAVE to do it with ppl, because the npc and hero AI is DEFINATELY not top notch (unless your INSANE at hero micromanagement).
Crom The Pale
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Yeah, I know. PvE is one player, isn't it?
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Every part of PvE can be played with other people save for a few solo quests/missions. Party size changes from the start of each chapter from 2 in Prophicies to 8 for most of the missions in Nightfall and everything in GWEN(except mentioned solo parts).
There is no part of this game that you can not do solo, I have completed all of GW, all 3 chapters + GWEN with just Heros and Hench. This is on normal mode.
Once you have unlocked Hard Mode you will find some areas require the help of live players to completed without extreme effort.
All of GW is more fun with other people
WaffleMoose
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I would buy Platinum Edition so u have both Prophecies and Eye of the North at a better price. No, PvE is cooperative, u play with a party of other players or henchman, it's not one player.
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Tatile
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Oh, ok. Im still not quite sure what to get. :P Oh yeah, if someone has Nightfall and EoN, and I get Prophecies and EoN, can I connect to them with EoN?
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Basically PvE play is like this:
You are in a big town, with lots of other players.
You can form a party with those players, or with hench (NPC's)
The party sizes can be two people to eight people
When you leave the town through a portal, you leave all the other people behind expect those in your party.
Then you go round killing stuff
WaffleMoose
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Yes, you can meet up with them in EotN.
Basically PvE play is like this: You are in a big town, with lots of other players. You can form a party with those players, or with hench (NPC's) The party sizes can be two people to eight people When you leave the town through a portal, you leave all the other people behind expect those in your party. Then you go round killing stuff |
Tatile
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Lol, sounds like fun. I think i'll get Prophecies, then maybe EoN if I like Prophecies.
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Try not to go over the wall too early either, it can be quite painful.
WaffleMoose
I have one more question, is it possible to change professions when you buy a new chapter?
Biostem
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I have one more question, is it possible to change professions when you buy a new chapter?
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At some point in each campaign, you can change your secondary profession, but your primary one is locked when you create your character. If you make a warrior primary, and later want a monk primary, you'd have to make a new character. You can, however, make your warrior a monk secondary and later change him to a ranger secondary, if you wanted to.
In general, people refer to characters in shorthand, like:
w/mo = warrior - monk
e/r = elementalist - ranger
me/n = mesmer - necromancer
a/rt = assassin - ritualist (factions only)
d/p = dervish - paragon (nightfall only)
Other than armor, (and general looks), your primary-profession-only attribute is important; necromancers, for instance, get 'soul reaping' which gives energy when things near you die. Warrior get strength, which helps your melee attacks do a bit more damage. Mesmer get fast-casting, which allows them to cast spells more quickly, etc.
The best thing I can tell you to do is to do a google search for 'Guild Wars Wiki' - it's a very useful resource...
WaffleMoose
Oh, so you have to start from level 1?
Biostem
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Oh, so you have to start from level 1?
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Ask around - most frequent posters here have multiple character at max level and having completed at least 1 campaign. It is definitely worth have a max level warrior, necro, etc, to team w/ friends or just mess around with. Even after you beat a campaign, you'll find there's more to do.
Crom The Pale
Keep in mind you get 4 char slots when you purchase your first chapter, and 2 more for each chapter after that. So you can create more than one char.
Once you create a char, its primary proffesion is locked and can never be changed, a Warrior will always be a Warrior, however its secondary is flexable and can be changed as often as you like once you reach a certain point in the game.
In Prophicies once you select your chars secondary proffesion( the primary is selected when you build your char, setting hight/hair/face/skin tone/ect..) it will be stuck with that secondary until you unlock other secondarys via quests that are found later in the game(exact details I'm leaving out as it is story related). Once you have unlocked new secondarys you can change back and forth as you desire, you do not lose anything by doing so but can only use skills from the currently selected secondary proff, even after unlocking all of them. ie you cant use War/Monk/Ele/Ranger skills all on one skill bar.
Once you create a char, its primary proffesion is locked and can never be changed, a Warrior will always be a Warrior, however its secondary is flexable and can be changed as often as you like once you reach a certain point in the game.
In Prophicies once you select your chars secondary proffesion( the primary is selected when you build your char, setting hight/hair/face/skin tone/ect..) it will be stuck with that secondary until you unlock other secondarys via quests that are found later in the game(exact details I'm leaving out as it is story related). Once you have unlocked new secondarys you can change back and forth as you desire, you do not lose anything by doing so but can only use skills from the currently selected secondary proff, even after unlocking all of them. ie you cant use War/Monk/Ele/Ranger skills all on one skill bar.
SlimChance
To better understand, each campaign/chapter takes place on a different continent.
When you move your character from Prophecies to Nightfall, he's travelling from the continent of Tyria to Elona. The character doesn't change at all, but now he has access to all the weapons, armor, skills on that continent.
And I'd recommend Nightfall, simply for the hero's. They add a new dimension to the game.
When you move your character from Prophecies to Nightfall, he's travelling from the continent of Tyria to Elona. The character doesn't change at all, but now he has access to all the weapons, armor, skills on that continent.
And I'd recommend Nightfall, simply for the hero's. They add a new dimension to the game.
Horseman Of War
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Oh, so you have to start from level 1?
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Well, not to confuse you.... but... you CAN start at lvl 20 (maxed) if you create a pvp-only character. PvP Chars have access ONLY to the arenas, guild battles, alliance battles, tournaments... they do NOT have access to any towns or explorable areas in the PvE side of things.
I bought a few extra character slots... I have one character from each class, a perma-pre (dont ask), a storage character, and a dedicated character slot for making/remaking pvp chars. Ive been here for quite a long time however..
Other than that, I agree with most of these other guys here.... Id say Nightfall is the best chapter... and if you find yourself really liking the pve play, then definately get the Prophecies/Eye combo (platinum) Personally, I happen to really like factions... and you can probably find it for cheap these days if you decide you want to start playing Alliance Battles pvp, or have access to the Ritualist or Assassin class.
Perkunas
When you get your character to lvl 20, don't stop and start a new one. Just because you maxed its level, does not mean you've maxed its skill. Keep on going through the game. Each new area gives you new challenges. It will push you to try to improve yourself.
Play through the game in order first time through. Try to refrain from buying runs. No real advantage to running on your first character. You won't be able to afford the armors. You will be beat into the ground by the high level mobs.
While in explorable areas, talk to every collector you see. They may have a better weapon to trade for, or a service you may want or need later.
If you want to learn the story, watch the cutscene movies. Ignore those that rant because someone didn't skip it.
There are a lot of players out there that think their way is the only way. Be open to ideas and suggestions, but play the way you want to play.
Play through the game in order first time through. Try to refrain from buying runs. No real advantage to running on your first character. You won't be able to afford the armors. You will be beat into the ground by the high level mobs.
While in explorable areas, talk to every collector you see. They may have a better weapon to trade for, or a service you may want or need later.
If you want to learn the story, watch the cutscene movies. Ignore those that rant because someone didn't skip it.
There are a lot of players out there that think their way is the only way. Be open to ideas and suggestions, but play the way you want to play.
furanshisuko
ok ,lol i would highly recomend start in nf ,why cause u get heros that will help during missions/quest ,also no one likes to be poor ,right? so you get this thing called treasures in nf which gets you 20k per char which you also get some rare drops but the amount given and drops are lower each month you can only do this treasure run each month so... get nf it will get you some decent armour and weapons