I noticed in the recent updates they buffed WoH and Glimmer, however WoH is obviously much better than Glimmer except in recharge and cast time, but the similarity between these two attributes is so close that WoH beats Glimmer every time. I am suggesting a very minor buff to glimmer to make it more appealing .Aswell as asking if anyone else can think of anything that would make it more appealing.
I believe it should keep it's cast time, and recharge, but change the mechanics of it.
Suggestions:
1: Spell. Target ally is healed for 10..115 health and loses one condition. If a condition is removed in this way this skill is disabled for 3 seconds.
2: Spell. Target ally and one adjacent ally is healed for 10..115 health.
3: Enchantment Spell. Target ally is healed for 10..115 health and is immune to the next 0..1 condition(s) applied.
4: Spell. You and target other ally are healed for 10..115 health.
5: Spell. Target ally is healed for 10..115 health. Health gain from Divine Favor is doubled for this spell.
6: Enchantment Spell: For 3 second target ally is enchanted with "Glimmer of Light". Target ally is healed for 10..115 health. When this enchantment ends that ally is healed for an additional 10..115 health.
These are just a few of my ideas...I don't think they are terribly unbalanced. I think that 6th is the most attractive, followed closely by 1 and 3.
Changes to glimmer of light that would make it more attractive?
TimTimTimma
mazey vorstagg
I think, that fitting with the name it's supposed to be a very small cheap heal. I'd say something like:
Glimmer of light
Energy: 5
Activation: ¼
Recharge: instant
Heal target ally for 10...50 Health, if they are over 50% health you gain 3 energy
They way it's completely spammable, stupidly cheap but pretty weak. Which was the way it was intended i think, given the name.
From your choices I'd say enchantments are out, because it's got to be short lasting, A glimmer. But i like number 5, that makes sense.
Glimmer of light
Energy: 5
Activation: ¼
Recharge: instant
Heal target ally for 10...50 Health, if they are over 50% health you gain 3 energy
They way it's completely spammable, stupidly cheap but pretty weak. Which was the way it was intended i think, given the name.
From your choices I'd say enchantments are out, because it's got to be short lasting, A glimmer. But i like number 5, that makes sense.
RhanoctJocosa
There's nothing wrong with it atm
Kwan Xi
You could keep Glimmer of Light the same, or boost it's power slightly, but restore Word of Healing's target other ally. Then that might be enough incentive for people to take glimmer over WoH
Amazing Stroopwafel
I think it would be best to make it a non-elite 
the spell's fine but the elite status prevents me from using it
the spell's fine but the elite status prevents me from using it
I Phoenix I
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I think it would be best to make it a non-elite
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Then what use would there be for something like Orison of Healing or Ethereal Light or Healing Whisper?
Dronte
Its fine as it is imo, kinda used since the buff.
TimTimTimma
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Kwan Xi
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Monks would not use it in pvp anymore except maybe in HA then. GvG monks would revert back to mostly prot. Anets goal is to even it out to where its prot/heal. Right now it is currently pretty balanced in that sense, however IMO its very imbalanced via skill usage due to WoH being just the best damn thing since sliced bread. I mean, they could even nerf WoH to help bring other healing elites forward, but right now WoH is just to good to pass up as it is now, and to bad to use in competitive play it's previous form.
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Edit: Just a reminder the nerf I suggested was making it Target other ally again thats it, this alone could make glimmer of light a more attractive choice (maybe buffing it a little more to compensate for WoH nerf too)
mystical nessAL
#4 & #5 are cool.
Pyro maniac
it's ok, especially in arena's where there are alot of naab mesmers with migraine and 6 interupts
AnnaCloud9
Glimmer is a fantastic spell as is. It's much more versatile than WoH, and far less cumbersome. Not to mention it's unconditional.
WoH is interupt bait, has an unattractive cooldown, and is more subject to slow-cast mesmer hexes. Don't get me wrong, WoH is a great spell, but like every elite skill in Guild Wars, it's not great all the time.
Glimmer is fast, efficient, and versatile. It's why it's on my bar rather than WoH 3/4 of every moment I'm monking. Sometimes you have to run the skills you're asking for 'buffs' in many situations and combinations before you can simply compare it to one single other skill. You should explore the rest of the Healing Line, break that cookie mold, and try monking. Glimmer may surprise you *wink*
*thumbs down for an unnecessary buff to Glimmer*
WoH is interupt bait, has an unattractive cooldown, and is more subject to slow-cast mesmer hexes. Don't get me wrong, WoH is a great spell, but like every elite skill in Guild Wars, it's not great all the time.
Glimmer is fast, efficient, and versatile. It's why it's on my bar rather than WoH 3/4 of every moment I'm monking. Sometimes you have to run the skills you're asking for 'buffs' in many situations and combinations before you can simply compare it to one single other skill. You should explore the rest of the Healing Line, break that cookie mold, and try monking. Glimmer may surprise you *wink*
*thumbs down for an unnecessary buff to Glimmer*
TaCktiX
Glimmer is fine, WoH is fine. Both have their place in the meta. If WoH was not self-targetting, then Infusing of any variety, a backbone of 8v8 PvP, would be suicide without another healer to hit the infuser with a heal. Really inefficient, really stupid.
Glimmer is the best spike-catching heal other than a straight Infuse on the other side. In GW:EN HM I've seen it used and encouraged its use, purely because of how fast damage can be dealt by the mobs. In HA Glimmer gets used on occasion as the support healer of the backline, interchangeably for Healer's Boon.
So /Notsigned for any changes to either elite.
Glimmer is the best spike-catching heal other than a straight Infuse on the other side. In GW:EN HM I've seen it used and encouraged its use, purely because of how fast damage can be dealt by the mobs. In HA Glimmer gets used on occasion as the support healer of the backline, interchangeably for Healer's Boon.
So /Notsigned for any changes to either elite.
JR
Glimmer is fine for PvP. It is useless for PvE because the quick casting time isn't as huge of an advantage. It doesn't need touching.
TimTimTimma
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WoH basicly replaced LoD now as the elite of choice to my knowledge now for basic monk healing.
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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
You should explore the rest of the Healing Line, break that cookie mold, and try monking. Glimmer may surprise you *wink*
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I have tried a variety of builds using glimmer and they work OK. But then I toss WoH in there and it just works BETTER. Yes, it is a conditional skill, but it's a condition that is met several times during a battle. Sure its a 3/4 second cast compared to Glimmers 1/4 but if you carry a 20/20(x2) you don't notice it very often. By nature WoH heals for 5..130 before the condition. Already more than glimmers 10..115. But then if someone is below 50% you tack another 100 health heal on that.
Glimmer can't compete against a spell that heals for more by default and then heals for even more if they really need it. This is why I suggested a mechanical change to the spell to make it different from WoH.
Glimmer and WoH are like two great job opportunities, both involve doing what you love to do for great pay but WoH is the one you want because it offers a better medical package, 401k, and dental.
Kwan Xi
Ehhh when LoD was nerfed everyone bitched, whined, and moaned that it was useless in PvP and cried about it.... then soon after everyone got over it and adapted to WoH.
Guild Wars is a game that can be played in many different ways. So.... if they do make changes to WoH that screws up PvP they will bitch, whine, and moan over here again... but I'm sure most PvP players and Guilds will eventually get over it and adapt new techniques to get past it.
Guild Wars is a game that can be played in many different ways. So.... if they do make changes to WoH that screws up PvP they will bitch, whine, and moan over here again... but I'm sure most PvP players and Guilds will eventually get over it and adapt new techniques to get past it.
bhavv
Healing light needs improving imo. No one really uses it now. And healing burst lol.
TimTimTimma
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Healing light needs improving imo. No one really uses it now. And healing burst lol.
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bhavv
Yea make healing burst 5e always, 10s recharge still, all allies in earshot are healed for 142. That will make a good LoD replacement with twice the recharge If thats too imba make it 10e.
Healing light - Make the healing scale as the same as wohs primary heal, make the energy gain scale up to +5.
If thats too imba make it 10e.Healing light - Make the healing scale as the same as wohs primary heal, make the energy gain scale up to +5.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
WoH is interupt bait, has an unattractive cooldown, and is more subject to slow-cast mesmer hexes.
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I don't find it as interrupt bait as the ranger will have to have EXTREME reflexes, and besides Holy Veil isn't far behind!
/notsigned anyway.
Glimmer is okay but a buff will only make it imba imo.
Curse You
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Healing Burst would be better if it was set to ear shot like divine healing and healers delight. healing Light would be better IMO if they changed it to if target ally is below 50%HP u gain 0..3 energy.
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TimTimTimma
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Originally Posted by Curse You
Then it would just be a weaker ZB.
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Azn D
I actually prefer Glimmer of Light over Word of Healing. I used it in Luxon faction farming. I liked how if you used Selfless spirit and GoL it's 122+divine favor every second for free. Also I love the 1/4 second cast, becuase I have slow reflexes lol.
Kanyatta
It's a good skill atm, it definitely doesn't need a buff. It is almost as good as WoH, and it can be better in the right hands. There's skills that are more in need than Glimmer.
You can't see me
It's fine the way it is. Any more improvements to it would create the new breed of "Glimmering Wammos".
MithranArkanere
And what about making it somehow an 'elite' version of Healing Ribbon?
Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 10...94...115 Health. If target ally is under and hex or condition, up to 2 additional allies near target ally are healed for 10...94...115 Health.
Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 10...94...115 Health. If target ally is under and hex or condition, up to 2 additional allies near target ally are healed for 10...94...115 Health.
TimTimTimma
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
And what about making it somehow an 'elite' version of Healing Ribbon?
Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 10...94...115 Health. If target ally is under and hex or condition, up to 2 additional allies near target ally are healed for 10...94...115 Health. |
bhavv
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And what about making it somehow an 'elite' version of Healing Ribbon?
Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 10...94...115 Health. If target ally is under and hex or condition, up to 2 additional allies near target ally are healed for 10...94...115 Health. |
ValaOfTheFens
Glimmer is great as is. Its one of the few heals Dunkoro can't mess up.
bhavv
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Glimmer is great as is. Its one of the few heals Dunkoro can't mess up.
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. But yea, test glimmer on a hero monk. I mean just glimmer! Maybe put on some insipation energy gain spells.
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Erm, make healing burst target ally?
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Healing Burst:
*Heal one: Touch range. 5 energy.
*Healy more: Any (1..n allies). 10 energy. Requires adjacent range.
My Glimmer
*Heal one: Spell range. 5 energy.
*Heal more: 1..3 allies. 5 energy. Requires target hexed or under a condition.
It's not the same.
GiZMo
I liked them all except for the disabled one. I'm sick of there only being one amazingly elite ELITE healing skill at a time. When LoD fell WoH rose up. Why can't there be more impressive versatility? In my opinion there needs to be more versatility throughout ALL the healing prayer elites.
And for 10 energy when casting it twice you get only a little bit more healing out of it compared to WoH. I'm aware of its conditional healing too.
/signed for more nice features for Glimmer of Light. Need change for the meta.
And for 10 energy when casting it twice you get only a little bit more healing out of it compared to WoH. I'm aware of its conditional healing too.
/signed for more nice features for Glimmer of Light. Need change for the meta.
RavagerOfDreams
/not signed
its fine as is if u wanna more powerful heal use WoH/ZB
skills not meant to heal massive amounts of health at once just a quick recharging decent heal
its fine as is if u wanna more powerful heal use WoH/ZB
skills not meant to heal massive amounts of health at once just a quick recharging decent heal
Dwimmerlaik
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I don't find it as interrupt bait as the ranger will have to have EXTREME reflexes,
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Kanyatta
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Ehhh when LoD was nerfed everyone bitched, whined, and moaned that it was useless in PvP and cried about it.... then soon after everyone got over it and adapted to WoH.
Guild Wars is a game that can be played in many different ways. So.... if they do make changes to WoH that screws up PvP they will bitch, whine, and moan over here again... but I'm sure most PvP players and Guilds will eventually get over it and adapt new techniques to get past it. |
But yea, Glimmer is the 2nd best healing elite right now, imo, and in some ways, it is better than WoH. It doesn't need a buff.