Avatar of balth stack with kinetic armor?

I kind of answer my own question here, but I was hoping maybe I'd get lucky and someone would tell me I'm wrong.

Avatar of Balthazar gives +40 armor

Kinetic Armor gives between +20-80 armor.

The wiki article states:
"Armor enhancing skills do not stack beyond +25 armor. This means a single skill can still bypass this cap, but using further armor enhancing skills will have no effect."

Given this I assume that the armor from these two skills wont stack. The elite forms arent like normal enchanments though so I was wondering if maybe they worked a little different in this regard, and I was to lazy to do a field test so I figured I could be lazy and see if someone had a definite answer. Having 170+ armor would be useful.

it will give you the highest of the armor buffs
so +40 form balthazar OR 20-80 from Kinetic

anyway, both skills suck and together they are even worse

They won't stack.

And AoB is pretty bad, but let's not go into that.

No, it doesn't stack.

And why do you need 170 armor? Go kill stuff... stuff that's dead doesn't deal any damage to you, you know...

"anyway, both skills suck"

Why is a skill that can potentially give you +50-60 armor (with high enough points in earth att) almost permanently, a bad skill? The only req is that you cast a skill every 8 seconds. When fighting a big mob of enemies that are high level, you are likely to be casting more frequently than every 8 seconds, and having any damage that isnt armor ignoring reduced by more than half(half damage happens at +40 armor) seems like it would be good. The only counter is if you get enchant removal, and it has a long recharge at 60.

"together they are even worse"
Yeah if they dont stack it would be rather pointless to have both.

"And AoB is pretty bad, but let's not go into that"

Well if I could stack other armor skills with it I'd say it would be pretty damn good though that isnt the case, but why not get into it? This is a pve skill discussion forum, and I dont see any other threads in this forum referencing it, what would the harm in talking about it be? A skill that gives you a 33% speed increase, halves damage and is great agaisnt undead doesnt seem to be all that bad. And a pve only skill that makes it so you can keep these bonuses going indefinitely makes it a better deal.

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"And why do you need 170 armor?"

What can I say, I'm a lazy monk.

You need to cast a spell every 8 seconds, not a skill, so you have to spam an enchanment or something like flare. Both will reduce your effectiveness.
In the dervish forum you will find in a thread "AoB sucks" or something like that why Balhazar is not a good elite choice.

"You need to cast a spell every 8 seconds, not a skill"

Well I suppose in the case of only a derv it might not be great, when I said it wasn't a bad skill I meant in general. I guess I was talking about mixing it with a dervish skill to start with so I should have clarified, but a rit, ele, mes, necro all cast spells, and enough that they easily meet the 8 second req. Having a caster with 100-120 armor all the time is a good way to reduce quite a bit of damage from the squishy part of the team.

"In the dervish forum you will find in a thread "AoB sucks"

Thank you, I'm curious about it now so I'll go check it out.

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