"Sword Still Brings Victory"

holy saints

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Heaven

N/A

A/W

This is stilla beta sort of build I think it works excellent in missions though.

This are the results of 1 vs 1 battles:

Out of the 6, 1 vs 1 battles. All 6 rated my build 5/5. 2 People said it was unbeatable. There was only 1 person who was able to get my health below 50%. And that was without Mystic Regeneration.

Here are the skills I use:

Dragon Slash (Elite)
Sun and Moon Slash
"For Great Justice!"
Heart of Fury
Mystic Vigor
Mystic Regeneration
Watchful Intervention
Faithful Intervention

Cast Faithful Intervention >
Before Battle Cast Watchful Intervention, Mystic Vigor >
When going to attack Cast Heart of Fury, "For Great Justice!" >
Spam Dragon Slash and SMS >
Cast Mystic Regen if you get in trouble >
Keep it up like that.
(This was just wroted real quick)

Anyway when you use Dragon Slash + FGJ You will get 8 rage. Allowing you to use SMS and gets you on 12 rage in DS (there was already 8 there) allowing you to keep spamming those 2 skills for 20 seconds and +33% faster.
Mystic Vigor keeps you alive with 75 health in like 1.5 seconds from DS and SMS if you keep up all enchanments.

Ill write a big guide later on this then you will all understand everything.

Im still doubting about swords though here's my choices:

Health + 30 or Ench +20%

Ench is nice for longer keep up so you dont have to spam your 1-8 buttons so much. Health +30 is just nice :P

Anyway I just want your opionon on this build and maybe some improvements?

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

1v1...? how useful

and it's ADRENALINE, not rage damit

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

1v1 doesn't tell much in terms of actually efficiency in a game like Guild Wars -.-

I really don't understand why you'd run so many enchantments and a sword...

Who exactly did you 1v1 and what professions / builds were they running? Were they actually people of skill or random people from RA? Something like a CripShot would beat you easily...and things like a BSurge would shut you down hard. Anti-melee hexes could probably beat you too.

Your build is lacking hex removal (which will screw you over if they are anti-melee hexes), condition removal (cripple, blind, dazed), a running skill, etc...


I rate it like a 2/5...

holy saints

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Heaven

N/A

A/W

Hmm... They were dervish/elementist and it survived the crappy blind. And yes it weakness is enchament remove. Also I tested it aroud Tyrian for mission build and it just works excellent with it. And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? And I don't use blocks? And like the only person who did almost beat me cuz he used the avatar of Lyssa and hitted sometimes around the 150 cause I was casting and I had that HP back in 3-4 seconds. And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned.

EDIT: About anti melee hexes? Empathy won't work cause of 25 health per hit +9 regen from Mystic Regen. But like shatter enchament could own me.

Dai Ichiban

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy saints
Hmm... They were dervish/elementist and it survived the crappy blind. And yes it weakness is enchament remove. Also I tested it aroud Tyrian for mission build and it just works excellent with it. And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? And I don't use blocks? And like the only person who did almost beat me cuz he used the avatar of Lyssa and hitted sometimes around the 150 cause I was casting and I had that HP back in 3-4 seconds. And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned.

EDIT: About anti melee hexes? Empathy won't work cause of 25 health per hit +9 regen from Mystic Regen. But like shatter enchament could own me. empathy SS insidious parastie all together on you would be lots of fun for you though. Maybe throw in backfire to stop you from casting too.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

...do you even know what a CripShot is? You'd get Crippled (can't attack him), Poisoned (degen), interrupted (no more enchantments), and, depending on the skill he'd take in a 1v1, either Bled (more degen) or hit pretty hard (70 or so with Sloth Hunter's).

What can you do? A) Limp slowly towards him. B) Alt+F4


You know...there are more anti-melee hexes than just Empathy >.> You wouldn't get the 25 health per hit because you wouldn't be able to hit. You wouldn't get the +9 regen because of something called enchantment removal.


Read some more and come back.


And to the person that just posted, you're right. Didn't think about Backfire, haha.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy saints
And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? becuase you would never get close enough to hit it.


2/5

where in guild wars do you get rewarded for fighting 1v1? no where because it is for straight noobs!

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy saints
And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ?
Quote: Originally Posted by Alex the Great becuase you would never get close enough to hit it. Maybe we need to define Crippled for him.


Crippled, Poisoned, Bleeding, interrupted repeatedly.

Crippling Shot is unblockable, by the way... though I don't know why you brought that up, your build doesn't include a block skill.

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy saints
And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned. Good point. That's exactly why 1v1 fights are pointless and cannot be used to base anything on: they're a rock-paper-scissors game. The outcome is determined before the match even begins, because one build will inevitably trump the other. Either you can counter your opponent or you can't.

eximiis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

a simple blocking stance would ownd the build.

or

spiteful spirit
empathy
insidious parasite
price of failure
spirit of failure
reckless haste
spirit shackles

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

Sorry I saw the title and just had to post here....

Now correct me if I'm wrong, my dervish has been collecting dust for a few months, but doesn't a Scythe deal almost double the damage of a sword?

15-22 vs 9-41....

And a Dervish can hit multiple foes + has 2 skills with 3/4sec activation times...

Now if your a Dervish/war maybe you could pump up some points in Tactics for Thrill of Victory or Soldiers Strike, but not really sure why you would need them...

I've seen a Steady Stance/Drunken blow/Desperation blow build that works, but for the love of my 20+ cool looking swords why on earth would you want to use a Sword on a Dervish???

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

Adrenaline denial, enchantment removal, or almost any caster could kill this build. Also 1 vs 1 is pretty pointless in gw and doesn't really prove much.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

A Mesmer can beat you - Anti melee, e denial
A Ranger can beat you - cripshot
A Monk can beat you - i think with a monk spike i can beat this
A Necromancer can beat you - Anti melee
A Elementalist can beat you - Blind
A Paragon can beat you - Cripple + deepwound + high damage
An Assassin can beat you - Shattering assault etc
A Ritualist can beat you Wanderlust + Diss + shadowsong
A Warrior can beat you - many many ways, he can do it better at his own game anyway :\
A Dervish can beat you - you said it yourself - lyssa beat you

Need i say more?

Der_Pardner

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

lastly, i can beat you

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

He's pro because:

a) He uses a sword on a dervish.
b) He spends half his bar on heals and interventions.
c) His retard guild / friendslist can't beat his shit build, and don't know wtf this is: [skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill]

I love this thread already.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

sorry to rez a dead thread but it had to be

umm ya
mark of unsteadyness
mobious spam with nec secondary and using rend
horns of the ox as well in there

there GG build owned

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Anything with enchant removal can beat this crap build.
Let it die

NamelessBeauty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

Mo/

I don't get it. Why you want D/W if W/x sword can do much much and much better?

1st: No Deep Wound dealing = bad for Melee.
2nd: The Derv does not do EXTRA dmg at all. War, Sin do.
3rd: Why would you want an elite sword? Isn't Avatar of Melandru is better?

To all: You guys talked about Crip Shot, SS and such. IT's MELEE ANTI. Again any type of melee will AFRAID of those craps. Why bother talking about that? Rating a melee build is based on the dmg it can do. Is it block or unblockable. What type of dmg it does (armor ignore or not.)

But yeh I would rate this 1/5 -,-"

Captain Miken

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
I don't get it. Why you want D/W if W/x sword can do much much and much better?

1st: No Deep Wound dealing = bad for Melee.
2nd: The Derv does not do EXTRA dmg at all. War, Sin do.
3rd: Why would you want an elite sword? Isn't Avatar of Melandru is better?

To all: You guys talked about Crip Shot, SS and such. IT's MELEE ANTI. Again any type of melee will AFRAID of those craps. Why bother talking about that? Rating a melee build is based on the dmg it can do. Is it block or unblockable. What type of dmg it does (armor ignore or not.)

But yeh I would rate this 1/5 -,-" ANY TYPE OF INTELLIGENT WILL AFRAID YOU GRAMMAR GOOD.

Build sucks!

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'll own you 1 vs 1 with my N/W

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

blood nec with ripostes !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
blood nec with ripostes !!!!!!!!!!!!! derfish wid serung flamz beta

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
I'll own you 1 vs 1 with my N/W
why do I think of the Ultamite ripsosting Necro build someone posted a long ass time ago.

the retard fight of the year.


Sorry I had to

and also if it was your build thanks for the laughs that was just a funny build

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
why do I think of the Ultamite ripsosting Necro build someone posted a long ass time ago.

the retard fight of the year.


Sorry I had to

and also if it was your build thanks for the laughs that was just a funny build had to do a search but:

epic build

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
why do I think of the Ultamite ripsosting Necro build someone posted a long ass time ago.

the retard fight of the year.


Sorry I had to

and also if it was your build thanks for the laughs that was just a funny build that was obviously sarcasm...

you make yourself look stupid alot on these forums.

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Wow. That thread brings back memories.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

who was it that posted it and does anyone still have it

man that was the greatest topic in history

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

PM me in game. I'll own your face so hard 1v1.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

I would almost be tempted to see what you would run Masume

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Divine would win. He is a very brave necro survivor.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
I would almost be tempted to see what you would run Masume 55 monk
123456

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

still would be funny

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Wow, that necro thread was too funny.

Quote:
dont invest anything into swordmanship, that is a newbs mistake to make a necro swords woman BWAAAHHHAHHHAAAA

Thanks for the tip, I'll never make that mistake again.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
blood nec with ripostes !!!!!!!!!!!!! ftw Anyway this build is complete garbage and a war with a sword would be better.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

ill own any of u wit ma mitey warrior!11

Until then, I'll close this thread because it fails.