New weapons in the HoM?

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

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So, as most of us know Anet is going to put the BMP up for sale in retail and the online store. So now that pretty much anyone can get the bmp, do you think Anet is going to let us put those weapons in the HoM or keep it how it currently is and only let destroyer weapons be put in the HoM?

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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They should add Tormented weapons...

And no.. I don't think they will add the BMP weapons to the HoM.. they are too easy to obtain and anyone could fill up the HoM weapons section in less than a day...

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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Torment weapons, yeah that sounds like a great idea, let give rewards for weapons that were in involved with two very public bannings. Glad A-net will increase the value of all my armbraces i got from the good old duping days. glad i wasn't one of the 117 also, and got to keep my loot.

Honestly do people have a 3 minute memory or something?

Ruby Lightheart

Ruby Lightheart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Clan of Elders

R/Mo

I cant remember where I read it at but there was an interview out there where the question bout the HoM and the person said that there were no plans to add anything further to the HoM. I wish I could remember where I read that at so I could post a link but sadly I cant.

Anyhow, I seriously doubt Anet will do any further work on the HoM though I wish they would. It had such great potential and ended up being a disaster with very little customization and I am still ticked at Anet for not telling us the dwarven armor was not considered a set until a bunch of us had gotten it and started reporting what we thought was a bug. And dont get my started bout how only destroyer weapons are displayable..... I quit trying to do anything with my HoM after that.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Whatever happens, they should definitely put something more than the ugly Destroyer Weapons..

skitz

skitz

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Handmedown Rejects [doob]

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in reality anet should let dwarven armor b put in the HoM, they should let you put a silverwing bow in which sells for 5x wat a destroyer does. but we no they wont. they should, but they wont.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

they should make it "personal" based ..

everyone should be able to simple put 11 items there, regardless what kind, if now destroyer, celestial..what ever, green, gold and so on...

simple the 11 items, you want to put and show there


then i would put in there stuff, like certain zodiac/celestial items, or a voltaic spear, an icy dragon saword and all those special looking stuff...

the only requirement should be, that these items should need to be 2perfect", before they can be added....

means max damage/defense...req of at least 9, and perfect mods/insignia or beign old school perfect

anfd then maybe increase this monument from 11 items to say 20 items ^^

that would be a good change

aTT!kus

aTT!kus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.S.

[FluX]

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they wont work on it any more. anet gave up on gw1 and they are only focusing on this directly in gw2

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

Im sure Gaile said there will be more weapons in the future for Hom and I can only hope that my torment weapons will be one of them.

mrvrod

Guest01

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
they should make it "personal" based ..

everyone should be able to simple put 11 items there, regardless what kind, if now destroyer, celestial..what ever, green, gold and so on...

simple the 11 items, you want to put and show there
/signed

Dear GW, I'm sorry I personally believe my deadsword is a better looking skin than ANY destroyer item in the game.

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

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Here idea, Let Anet put any weapon that we like in it. All the weapons we get should be in it, some might have Personnal Value that higher than any other weapon.

Derrick the Nomad

Derrick the Nomad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Gear Trick

E/R

I've yet to even put up a tapestry on that wall for this very reason.

I do hope we get some info soon.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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If max is 11, what do they expect a person to do? Weapons you put in there are customized, and no profession has use for 11 weapons. Am I supposed to get destroyer crap for my heroes?

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

tormented weapons should be in HoM..

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

HoM is a "link" from GW to GW2. What a shame that the only link is also the weakest link possible.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Look at it this way: The only reason you can put destroyer weapons in there is because if you could put anything every weapon would have to have some effect in GW2. A-net doesnt want to do all that work and it is bad for people who do not have all the campains. (Though I guess only people with GW:EN benefit from the HoM).

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

They should have a place for ecto stacks, screw weapons.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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all max green weapons should be allowed in the HoM.....destroyer ones are just useless and pretty ugly. Highly doubt anything will change since 'they' have other things on their minds right now...................

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

No greens!

Greens are bad.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

They should allow any weapon and any armor (or armor combo) to be displayed. My Gothic Dual and Darkwing Defender have much more value and meaning to me then stupid Destroyer stuff. Same goes for my Obsidian / Elite Glad mix, I prefer it over full FoW, and don't see why I should waste time to complete either of those 2 sets only so I can see my main char standing there...
And some people will probably say FoW is ugly, and they have a right to that, so why the heck not allow them to display 1.5K armor?

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

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I gave my Koss a Destroyer Axe. Why not, man?

But then again, I have uselessly pimped my Koss up... But that's besides the point right???

Heimdallw32

Heimdallw32

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

United States of America

The Seven Deadly [Sins]

Don't spoil Koss too much. Or he'll start sneaking in that Heal Party build he's been eying.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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good gods bmp weapons in the hom would be the end of my respect for it. That's like allowing any white non max item in there. If any weapons should be added, it should be torment weapons, although I do see why they made it destroyer weapons only (easy to code for whatever bonus is in gw2, if there's only 1 weapon set they need to code for) Not that I like it, but I understand it. Still holding out for torment tho

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
They should add Tormented weapons...

And no.. I don't think they will add the BMP weapons to the HoM.. they are too easy to obtain and anyone could fill up the HoM weapons section in less than a day...
the tyranny of the minority....those who have completed their halls will cry wolf and Q_Q if all of a sudden GW actually did what it says it does and "stand for the casual player".

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
They should allow any weapon and any armor (or armor combo) to be displayed. My Gothic Dual and Darkwing Defender have much more value and meaning to me then stupid Destroyer stuff. Same goes for my Obsidian / Elite Glad mix, I prefer it over full FoW, and don't see why I should waste time to complete either of those 2 sets only so I can see my main char standing there...
And some people will probably say FoW is ugly, and they have a right to that, so why the heck not allow them to display 1.5K armor?
About the same for me: I prefer my FoW/Asuran/15k Canthan and FoW/15k Luxon necro combos over the full FoW armor... and the destroyer weapons are pretty ugly IMHO. I'd rather have my Gloom Shield, my Greater Guardian Spear (albeit purple x]...) and my Legendary Sword up there than the Destroyer stuff I won't by because I just don't like them.

So until then my weapon monument will remain empty.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by skitz
in reality anet should let dwarven armor b put in the HoM, they should let you put a silverwing bow in which sells for 5x wat a destroyer does. but we no they wont. they should, but they wont.
The HoM only takes sets, and "Dwarven armor" isn't a set. You should have noticed that when each piece had a different name on it (unlike in sets where they are all the same).

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
The HoM only takes sets, and "Dwarven armor" isn't a set. You should have noticed that when each piece had a different name on it (unlike in sets where they are all the same).
Which makes me wonder why they didn't make it a full set? The question was probably asked and answered before though >_>... and when you think about this, they made the Silver Eagle warrior armor to be put up in HoM (which IMHO was a smart move), deciding it was a set. Therefore, why not the Dwarven set? Just because of the part names? >_>.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Which makes me wonder why they didn't make it a full set? The question was probably asked and answered before though >_>... and when you think about this, they made the Silver Eagle warrior armor to be put up in HoM (which IMHO was a smart move), deciding it was a set. Therefore, why not the Dwarven set? Just because of the part names? >_>.
I have no clue why exactly they chose to do it that way, I'm only relaying the facts.

Silver Eagle armor was created as a set, separate from "Dwarven armor" and they didn't want to waste the work they had put into coding it.

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

My POV on the subject is probably when GW 2 comes out, they will update HoM during and afterwards. So they know which weapons they can create on the new engine and which they cannot. I think the destroyer weapons are pretty much a test. Furthermore, A-net has a nasty habit of putting in things at the last minute. They procrastinate like no tomorrow, on things to come in the near future.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I have no clue why exactly they chose to do it that way, I'm only relaying the facts.

Silver Eagle armor was created as a set, separate from "Dwarven armor" and they didn't want to waste the work they had put into coding it.
Yeah I know what you mean, I was aware of that :P. Had a blank moment about the Silver Eagle made as a set at first.

I also remember how some Dwarven "sets" are missing parts, such as the ranger armor (no gloves) while the necro, IIRC, has it all). Probably due to this...

Foe

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

I wont be buying GW2, Anet has lost me as a customer. But...why dont they just let the player decide what he/she would like to enshrine. A trash can worthy destroyer sword goes in but my req 7 15^50 Flamberge and Longword cant? I mean...u cant put a req 8 15^50 Crystalline in? Anet fails

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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As I understand it, HoM doesn't transfer anything per se and the relation between an enshrined GW1 item/achievement and the eventual GW2 benefit might be very tenuous. Hence, if you plop in a destroyer sword in GW1 it is not necessarily the case that your descendant in GW2 will claim the same ugly stick with the very same stats. Think of it more like the preorder bonus items of GW1, with the difference that you'll be able to choose which types of equipment to unlock. Like, there will be a bonus sword with as of yet unknown stats and skin in GW2 for which you can 'buy' the unlock by getting a destroyer sword to your monument. Just think of it. Enshrining Jora will not provide you a blonde buxom bear hero in GW2 if there are no heroes in the entire game to start with. I seriously doubt that ANet will tailor a custom version of every GW1 elite armor for every GW2 race just so that your green hentai fairy descendants can prance around in Kurzick fishnet stockings. Miniatures might have a chance of getting transferred verbatim since they don't interfere with game mechanics (or by and large with anything else either).

There's just one piece of equipment that has universal utility, and that's the shield. For all the rest I will wait and see until we know how it works (or doesn't).

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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pft if ppl get to put inscribable trash into their hom i should be able to put my r7 15>50's and tyrian crystallines in there. if that happens, im sure others will argue for more worthless junk to get put into there. notice the slippery slope situation?

Onyx Blindbow

Onyx Blindbow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Here & There

Blades of Burning Shadows - GoDT

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Besides the ability to put in what ever you wish.

I would be a be happier if the stuff you put in could actually be seen, my destroyer staff looks like a toothpick because it is scaled down so small

statues are big, minipets are correct size, armor is correct size, weapons are about 1/3 of their full size so it only makes the destroyer stuff look even more ugly as you can't see the animations or anything on them.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

no on torment weapons, 2 of the biggest exploits in the game revolved around DOA.

greens yeah, heck there should be a title for collecting every single green in the game.

De Maximoff

De Maximoff

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Gamers With Lives [GWL]

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Quote:
They should add Tormented weapons...
I totally agree. I worked really hard to get the two tormented weapons I have. I've read a lot of complaining that they should not be allowed because of the exploiting that went on. My message to Gaile is this, just because some individuals decided to cheat that does not mean that all of us who worked really hard to legitimately obtain a tormented weapon(s) should not be allowed at some point to put them in our HOM. Judging by Anet's care of the game I believe they will listen and consider this request that many people have made. It may or may not happen at some point but I don't believe Anet will listen to what I would characterize as 'sour grapes' by some people simply because they have not put in the time and effort to obtain a tormented weapon(s).

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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It has been stated many many many many many times now what people want. IF Anet listens we will get it, if not then we wont.

What people have asked for since the begining was a two tyred system, one level for destroyer weapons that grant us an "unlock" in GW2 and a second tyre for any weapons we chose to put on display.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
If max is 11, what do they expect a person to do? Weapons you put in there are customized, and no profession has use for 11 weapons. Am I supposed to get destroyer crap for my heroes?
Warrior
Elemental sword
Vamp Sword
Zealous Sword

Vamp axe
Elemental axe
Zealous axe
Sundering axe

Vamp Hammer
Sundering Hammer
Elemental Hammer

+30/-2 shield
+30/-5 shield
+30/20% reduce to blind

How did I do?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Warrior
Elemental sword
Vamp Sword
Zealous Sword

Vamp axe
Elemental axe
Zealous axe
Sundering axe

Vamp Hammer
Sundering Hammer
Elemental Hammer

+30/-2 shield
+30/-5 shield
+30/20% reduce to blind

How did I do?
Who would get more than one of any destroyer weapon, besides shields, as they have tac/str, on one character if HoM didn't exist?

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Who would get more than one of any destroyer weapon, besides shields, as they have tac/str, on one character if HoM didn't exist?
Someone who really likes destroyer weapons? But I wouldn't think of anyone who actually would, as I would be more concerned in their taste of weapon skins and art. Really, Anet having HoM restricting any weapon is bad. The only requirement it should have, is to have max damage.