Hero Builds For Guardian/Protector

Ive been trying to get groups for HM missions, but very often theres no company but heroes. anyone out there have a good team build for 2 people and 6 heroes that works well for most missions in hard mode? (and on a side note, any 1 person/3 hero builds for the ascalon missions?) so far, ive been using the following builds:

Jora with a basic Triple chop axe warrior

Livia with an MM build, slightly modified version of the heroway vanquisher build (jagged+death nova)

Xandra as a communing/resto rit, with preservation as elite, 3-4 spirits, spirit light, ghostmirror, and 1 other skill i cannot remember.

Note, i am a ranger, who is often using a splinter-barrager build. (not worth wasting 9 points on xandra for splinter when i can do it myself.
These builds have been working pretty well for NM (finishing off my protector titles as well), though i know the builds can be much improved. when henchman are available, i use these: healer hench, prot hench, nuker hench, and eve (BR hench)

any suggestions?

Ursan + 3 steamrollers

in 6-men areas, add a monk and a mesmer
in 8-men areas, add a monk, mesmer, interrupter and nuker (or a non-aggro breaker when one is not available)

it got me pretty much through everything, but watch your aggro. And change when its a low-corpse area ofcourse

Go Sabway!!!!

to Nodensis' comment, i dislike using ursan, plus, my norn is too low for it to be effective over a splinter barrager in large-mob areas. btw, what are steamrollers exactly? :P [/noobquestion]

To kerwyn's comment, i find sabway a bit boring, especially since my heroes are tards and i have to micro them most of the time. might try it, since it got me through a few of the tougher vanquishing areas in ascalon.

thanks for the suggestions, both of you

no noobquestion, don't worry

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but those are the builds. 3 necs. The ursan build compliments the minions, which makes it v high damage. Using the ursan builds makes sure you have complete aggro control, very valuable. A low norn rank doesnt matter, if u want some more armor; get secondary warrior or paragon and wield a shield with the req.

steamrollers? wtf are those

If there are alot of healers, high hitting ele's etc I often replace the resto n/rt from sab's build with a BHA Epedemic ranger (but ofc you could go that as your a ranger) I use whirlwind attack + splinter weap on myself as warrior (for the rest D-Slash with FGJ and Enduring Harmony) with Save Yourselves (cancles out huge ammounts of dmg and focusses agro on you) Sab's MM and SS hero, if possible 2 monk henchies and rest to what you prefer/is availeble.

Here's what I mostly use:

Tahlkora(Mo/e):
12+1+1 healing prayers
10+1 protection prayers
8+1 divine favor

[skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]signet of rejuvenation[/skill][skill]shield of absorption[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]aegis[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill]


Dunkoro(Mo/e):
12+1+1 healing prayers
10+1 protection prayers
8+1 divine favor

[skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]shield of absorption[/skill][skill]spirit bond[/skill][skill]aegis[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill]

Olias(N/Me):
12+1+1 death magic
9+1 soul reaping
9+1 curses

[skill]blood of the master[/skill][skill]animate shambling horror[/skill][skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]virulence[/skill][skill]Weaken Armor[/skill][skill]epidemic[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]inspired hex[/skill]
Weaken armor is seriously outdated, it is: Spell. Target foe has Cracked Armor for 5..17 seconds.(5e, 2 cast, 2 recharge)

and if I have another human in the party,he brings:

Zhed(E/Rt):
11+1+1 Fire magic
8+1 energy storage
11+1 Earth magic

[skill]mind blast[/skill][skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill][skill]ward against melee[/skill][skill]ward against foes[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]

Sousuke with the same build as zhed but ward against foes changed for mark of rodgort.
When I expect more conditions, I drop the ward on sousuke for extinguish.


Livia(N/Rt):
12+1+1 Curses
12+1 soul reaping


[skill]spiteful spirit[/skill][skill]reckless haste[/skill][skill]barbs[/skill][skill]mark of pain[/skill][skill]enfeebling blood[/skill][skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]


There are probably better hero builds out there, but this is what I mostly use(altho I replaced splinter on the ss because you mentioned you bringing it).

Your builds should/ and will vary depending on what missions you are doing. Here's a link to help get you started with 3 of the heros (Sabway):
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10202023

You'll probably want a monk hybrid (for HM), something like:
[skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]reversal of fortune[/skill][skill]mend condition[/skill][skill]shield of absorption[/skill]cure hex[skill]guardian[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill]

I'd also include a support Ele with wards and maybe a Dom Mesmer.

*keep in mind their is no one build for doing all of the missions in HM.

I would suggest changing your Rit to a Channeling/Restoration build, then you could max out splinter on her, as well Channeling would bost her damage up significantly.

Note* Just because a town is empty does not mean there is nobody online that wants to complete it in hard mode, go post a LFG in trading towns there is a good chance you will find somebody that is selling or buying to kill time that just might want that exact mission as you do.

3 nec build works well, I use em, and I never thought i'd be able to do HM, but I do really well against most enemies. I then bring a monk, paragon, and both elementalists, works well.