Aion is being made by Ncsoft and Runs on a realy nice engine, not to promote it, and fits ALOT of stuff in on it so I was wondering.
Will Anet use the same tech for Gw2?
http://www.plaync.com/us/games/aion/videos.html
Gw2 and Aion
viper11025
Curse You
Since many Developers will share information among others with the same Publisher, it is a possibility.
Winterclaw
Unless they backstab one another to get more future funding.
pumpkin pie
flying character! is it pay or buy like GW?
viper11025
Thats brutal, imagine that in Gw and X2 graphics. *WoW**Run**For**It*
Seriously though, imagine the potential and disadvantage here.
1. People can over aggro a freaking map
2. More interaction, and effects.
Pay- $15/month
Seriously though, imagine the potential and disadvantage here.
1. People can over aggro a freaking map
2. More interaction, and effects.
Pay- $15/month
Cacheelma
I have a feeling that Aion is aimed specifically at Asian market (READ: Korea and South-East Asia).
What does this mean? Think Lineage 2. No matter how exciting & fun & new & beautiful it seems to be, it will also come with massive grindfest like most other games of its kind. And I'm not talking about Western kind of quest-driven grinds in WoW and co. here.
But as I said, that's just my feeling.
What does this mean? Think Lineage 2. No matter how exciting & fun & new & beautiful it seems to be, it will also come with massive grindfest like most other games of its kind. And I'm not talking about Western kind of quest-driven grinds in WoW and co. here.
But as I said, that's just my feeling.
viper11025
Im not promoting Aion, but what i AM saying is.
WILL that be possible for gw2 and keep the free monthly??
O.o
WILL that be possible for gw2 and keep the free monthly??
O.o
pumpkin pie
rofl, as tempting and beautiful and interesting it may look, sif pay $15 (not coverted yet) a months... no way
*goes play gw*
*goes play gw*
viper11025
I think we went off topic lol.
14 something people reading, post your views.
Can GW2 look that good and be free monthly?
Yes, or no.
SOmething.
14 something people reading, post your views.
Can GW2 look that good and be free monthly?
Yes, or no.
SOmething.
Cacheelma
Look is subjective.
If you want to know what kind of game you can get with free-2-play model, look at GW1.
Hint: "We can't afford to do this", "We don't have the capacity, time, or technology to do that", "We can't offer that with our business model"
If you want to know what kind of game you can get with free-2-play model, look at GW1.
Hint: "We can't afford to do this", "We don't have the capacity, time, or technology to do that", "We can't offer that with our business model"
viper11025
From, all these hints im getting from various updates.
I think there lining it all down to the basics agian, thats good but bad. Less good combos to use.
The more combinations in GW2 vs.complexity of GW2 enviroment will be a pain to figure out.
*Imagines jumping into a 20 vs 12 battle, jumps over a ledge and aggros another 50 into it.*
I think there lining it all down to the basics agian, thats good but bad. Less good combos to use.
The more combinations in GW2 vs.complexity of GW2 enviroment will be a pain to figure out.
*Imagines jumping into a 20 vs 12 battle, jumps over a ledge and aggros another 50 into it.*
Bryant Again
Looks promising, but so does a lot of things in the NCSoft catalogue. I just haven't had a whole lot of faith in their products as of late, and that really bums me out.
At least it looks a little different than most...Okay it actually looks too much like Lineage for me. We'll wait and see.
At least it looks a little different than most...Okay it actually looks too much like Lineage for me. We'll wait and see.
Operative 14
Frankly, the graphics in GW1, especially GW:EN, look a lot better than what I saw in that video trailer. Am I missing something?
Koross
Wth are you talking about?!? GW1 looks way better than WoW and it is still free.
So I don't see what is the problem between GW2 and Aione or WoW2 for that matter.
PS: This is a response to the OP.
So I don't see what is the problem between GW2 and Aione or WoW2 for that matter.
PS: This is a response to the OP.
Cacheelma
As I said, look is subjective.
Bryant Again
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Wth are you talking about?!? GW1 looks way better than WoW and it is still free.
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In terms of looking good and keeping quality: I know thousands of single-player off-line games that have offered both. It depends on the developer.
viper11025
Im asking for possibilities ><.
I asked for an inch and got a yard, wow.
Anywho I gtg for now.
Hope Anet stick to the battle plan, simple, Combinations.
If I jump in Mud, I want it to slow me down! (Just an example)
I asked for an inch and got a yard, wow.
Anywho I gtg for now.
Hope Anet stick to the battle plan, simple, Combinations.
If I jump in Mud, I want it to slow me down! (Just an example)
Redfeather1975
I have not seen anything for Aion that would lead me to believe they'd have no choice but to charge a monthly fee for that game.
Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee regardless of what it looks like.
The only games where I could see a monthly fee needed were games like WoW and EQ2, where they need to make so much they need to keep the income coming constantly to pay for stuff they are still working on. An interview with Scott Hartsman mentioned that's most of what monthly fees are for....to pay for future content production, regardless of whether the customer still has to buy it once it's finished production.
I think of monthly fees as loans. The developer is taking a loan from you to pay for future additions. The devs will always have the money for future content production regardless of whether their box sales decline before it's production is finished. Once production is finished you then can buy it, but it's a lot of content for it's price, since technically you have already paid for it's production costs with your monthly fees.
Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee regardless of what it looks like.
The only games where I could see a monthly fee needed were games like WoW and EQ2, where they need to make so much they need to keep the income coming constantly to pay for stuff they are still working on. An interview with Scott Hartsman mentioned that's most of what monthly fees are for....to pay for future content production, regardless of whether the customer still has to buy it once it's finished production.
I think of monthly fees as loans. The developer is taking a loan from you to pay for future additions. The devs will always have the money for future content production regardless of whether their box sales decline before it's production is finished. Once production is finished you then can buy it, but it's a lot of content for it's price, since technically you have already paid for it's production costs with your monthly fees.
cthulhu reborn
If you've paid attention to Anet's explanations in interviews you know that from the start they have chosen a different business model than other MMO type games and have proved it works.
They also said it's a business model that is there to co-exist with the others.
Now, looking at the graphics GW has now compared to other games (like WoW) who do charge monthly I think the answer will have to be: yes, they can do it.
Just because some companies milk their customers to the bone and get away with it while offering lower end graphics, doesn't mean you need that kind of business model to make a better looking game. My point is, they've done it before, I'm sure they can do it again.
Now if flying is an option that is desirable in GW2 is another matter. In any case they have said that jumping (as in jumping on and over terrain) and swimming will be added. So there are some extra's already compared to the current game.
They also said it's a business model that is there to co-exist with the others.
Now, looking at the graphics GW has now compared to other games (like WoW) who do charge monthly I think the answer will have to be: yes, they can do it.
Just because some companies milk their customers to the bone and get away with it while offering lower end graphics, doesn't mean you need that kind of business model to make a better looking game. My point is, they've done it before, I'm sure they can do it again.
Now if flying is an option that is desirable in GW2 is another matter. In any case they have said that jumping (as in jumping on and over terrain) and swimming will be added. So there are some extra's already compared to the current game.
NathanMurray
Aion looks really awesome but I won't play it becuase I just really don't think it would suit me. I like guild and I'll probably stay playing GW and then GW2 if I can get a new computer (I'm kinda running and old system) or maybe I could just upgrade (now I'm off topic sorry 
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Darksun
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Longasc
It looks very Asian.
Nothing against their looks, but it usually goes hand in hand with the gameplay style well known as "Asia grinder" that we westerners usually despise.
Nothing against their looks, but it usually goes hand in hand with the gameplay style well known as "Asia grinder" that we westerners usually despise.
Redfeather1975
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It looks very Asian.
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bathazard
I probably Wouldn't Buy Guild wars 2 even though i really really want to if it was a pay per month thing...
Jaceb
Honest opinion, GW2 could use even better graphics and still be free. I dont think Aion looks very amazing. To me it looks they've recycled something from their previous games, published/developed. Some models felt like Charr and those Wings (CoH/V Inventions, almost look the same, power effects) etc.
Sure they were probably early beta/alpha version videos but still :P. GW beats Aion in its current form.
Sure they were probably early beta/alpha version videos but still :P. GW beats Aion in its current form.
Numa Pompilius
As NCSoft owns ArenaNet I doubt the pretty striking similarity to GW is accidental.
I'd say Aion uses an updated Guildwars *1* engine. To me it even looks like they've recycled some GW1 textures and models.
Also, FWIW, flight, jumping, swimming etc are supposed to be included in GW2.
I'd say Aion uses an updated Guildwars *1* engine. To me it even looks like they've recycled some GW1 textures and models.
Also, FWIW, flight, jumping, swimming etc are supposed to be included in GW2.
Gattocheese
Aion currently uses the Crytec engine. That technology is available to the developers and not the publishers. So more then likely Anet will not be using that engine for the game.
Aion will have no baring on GW2. Aion is more of a competition MMO that will try to steal player base off of WoW and other MMO's to make a name for themselves. Though its bad timing that 3 major MMO's are being released in 08.
Aion will have no baring on GW2. Aion is more of a competition MMO that will try to steal player base off of WoW and other MMO's to make a name for themselves. Though its bad timing that 3 major MMO's are being released in 08.
Shadow Kurd
From the screens and videos i've seen of Aion, it looks like a pay-to-play version of Perfect World.
Balan Makki
Aion looks like GW1 tech with lots of new features, wierd. . . of course there's flying, climbing, etc.. . Nice upgrades to the GW engine.
pamelf
If Aion were free to play I would be playing that right now. It looks quite wonderful, but I don't play regularly enough to make a monthly subscription worth my while...
I hope GW2 character cutomization is a bit more like Aion's, with as well designed armour though...
I hope GW2 character cutomization is a bit more like Aion's, with as well designed armour though...
Kakumei
As someone who's been following Aion's development pretty closely, allow me to put in a couple actual honest-to-god facts in the thread:
Aion is based on a slightly upgraded version of CryENGINE1--which is what Far Cry used, and not Crysis, as some people might say.
Aion bears a lot of visual similarities to Lineage, but the developers have stated again and again in every interview that they are aiming for a Western market, and that they are not at all making it a grindfest. Whether they'll succeed is yet to be determined, as it's still in a closed Korean beta--the US beta starts in a couple months.
Yes, there will be a fee, but the fee is not yet determined.
Aion is based on a slightly upgraded version of CryENGINE1--which is what Far Cry used, and not Crysis, as some people might say.
Aion bears a lot of visual similarities to Lineage, but the developers have stated again and again in every interview that they are aiming for a Western market, and that they are not at all making it a grindfest. Whether they'll succeed is yet to be determined, as it's still in a closed Korean beta--the US beta starts in a couple months.
Yes, there will be a fee, but the fee is not yet determined.
LeoX
Yeah i think GW2 can look good and be free of monthly fees too.
Oh and off topic, yeah i'd definitely play Aion if there was no monthly fee. :|
Oh and off topic, yeah i'd definitely play Aion if there was no monthly fee. :|
Uber Mass
i liked some of the features i saw in Aion.... but ill just wait and see what GW2 is going to bring =D
lyra_song
Aion resembles Guild Wars Factions more than anything else...
Chrono Re delle Ere
A-Net already said that there won't be monthly fee for gw2.
Cacheelma
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A game which is aimed for a western market, somehow begins beta testing the KOREAN VERSION first?
Seriously? Let me guess, the koreans trash the game to bits, because obviously it's not the kind of game they like?
I think not.
4thVariety
It's up to each publisher to decide how competitive it wants to be with its pricing. Convert prices around the globe and you will know what I mean. The same PS3 that cost the equivalent of 240€ in Japan will set you back 450€ in Europe, which is $680 in the U.S. The same is true for MMOs which will often just charge you because they know that players will mystically talk themselves into believing they have to pay monthly for that type of the MMO genre (which isn't really a genre but more of a bastard child of other genres).
Anet chooses to be very competitive and can afford to do so, mainly because they like to brag about the efficiency of their technology. Other people can afford to be bad at netcode, because they know they will have increased revenue to compensate. In the end the best gameplay will win and that is not going to be Aion.
When was the last time you have seen full 3D combat? That's pretty hardcore and very hard to do right and make it playable.
Anet chooses to be very competitive and can afford to do so, mainly because they like to brag about the efficiency of their technology. Other people can afford to be bad at netcode, because they know they will have increased revenue to compensate. In the end the best gameplay will win and that is not going to be Aion.
When was the last time you have seen full 3D combat? That's pretty hardcore and very hard to do right and make it playable.
DarkWasp
Graphics have absolutley nothing to do with monthly costs. (If they did, WoW would be the biggest rip off in history)
Monthly are supposed to be for the upkeep of servers. However, ArenaNet proved to us that perhaps that isn't neccesary. It is highly possible that a lot of MMOs have been ripping people off.
Monthly are supposed to be for the upkeep of servers. However, ArenaNet proved to us that perhaps that isn't neccesary. It is highly possible that a lot of MMOs have been ripping people off.
super strokey
Well GW 2 will be DX10 compatible they have said that for sure and they said it will keep the same cost structure so i think well see something better and it will only be a buy the game and play set up. It will be prettier too
stretchs
They have stated NO MONTHLY fee adamantly from the beginning of promoting GW2. As for look, the main reason I never got into WoW was its horrid graphics, after playing gw for so long I couldnt bring myself to deal with the SNES quality graphics that WoW sports