The Sky is Falling!
Joe Fierce
Not really, but that's what this thread is going to be viewed as by all of those who read it at a glance or are unable to comprehend what it is that i'm saying... But ever since the most recent update i've been noticing a large drop in the rate of ectoplasms. While not a real source of income anymore I still occasionally do it as a recreational sort of thing (if for nothing else but to be able to buy some stuff without breaking my pretty gold hold i'm very OCD). But is it just me or are they beginning to drop less often all of a sudden?
AND BEFORE you start telling me "well just cause you've got a patch of bad luck lately doesn't mean that everyone else is experiencing a decreased drop rate". Before you come at me with some STooP1D S*** like that take a look at the prices and trader, even with the doubled weekend having just occured and the fact that we have just short of two weeks of favor left ectos continue to rise in price, a rise in price that has not occured in numerous months. They have all the motivation in the world to actually flow downwards, but remarkably the trend is upwards. Could this be due to overfarming? I have no idea, i'm not a anet code jockey. Could this be a reset drop rate due to the fact they knew perma favor is going to happen for quite a few days and is only temporary? I don't know... But one thing I do know is that those little pinkies are the one thing that drive this economy besides armbraces and the good old cold hard cash and if anet is so protective of their economy enough so to draw a hard line against botters, why are they killing it themselves by destroying the average everyday farmers?
Well my random rant of the day has concluded /setflameshieldstomax
-joe_fierce
AND BEFORE you start telling me "well just cause you've got a patch of bad luck lately doesn't mean that everyone else is experiencing a decreased drop rate". Before you come at me with some STooP1D S*** like that take a look at the prices and trader, even with the doubled weekend having just occured and the fact that we have just short of two weeks of favor left ectos continue to rise in price, a rise in price that has not occured in numerous months. They have all the motivation in the world to actually flow downwards, but remarkably the trend is upwards. Could this be due to overfarming? I have no idea, i'm not a anet code jockey. Could this be a reset drop rate due to the fact they knew perma favor is going to happen for quite a few days and is only temporary? I don't know... But one thing I do know is that those little pinkies are the one thing that drive this economy besides armbraces and the good old cold hard cash and if anet is so protective of their economy enough so to draw a hard line against botters, why are they killing it themselves by destroying the average everyday farmers?
Well my random rant of the day has concluded /setflameshieldstomax
-joe_fierce
Cacheelma
well just cause you've got a patch of bad luck lately doesn't mean that everyone else is experiencing a decreased drop rate.
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well just cause you've got a patch of bad luck lately doesn't mean that everyone else is experiencing a decreased drop rate
Joe Fierce
luff you guys sooo much |_______________________| this much, but no further
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Not really, but that's what this thread is going to be viewed as by all of those who read it at a glance or are unable to comprehend what it is that i'm saying... But ever since the most recent update i've been noticing a large drop in the rate of ectoplasms. While not a real source of income anymore I still occasionally do it as a recreational sort of thing (if for nothing else but to be able to buy some stuff without breaking my pretty gold hold i'm very OCD). But is it just me or are they beginning to drop less often all of a sudden?
AND BEFORE you start telling me "well just cause you've got a patch of bad luck lately doesn't mean that everyone else is experiencing a decreased drop rate". Before you come at me with some STooP1D S*** like that take a look at the prices and trader, even with the doubled weekend having just occured and the fact that we have just short of two weeks of favor left ectos continue to rise in price, a rise in price that has not occured in numerous months. They have all the motivation in the world to actually flow downwards, but remarkably the trend is upwards. Could this be due to overfarming? I have no idea, i'm not a anet code jockey. Could this be a reset drop rate due to the fact they knew perma favor is going to happen for quite a few days and is only temporary? I don't know... But one thing I do know is that those little pinkies are the one thing that drive this economy besides armbraces and the good old cold hard cash and if anet is so protective of their economy enough so to draw a hard line against botters, why are they killing it themselves by destroying the average everyday farmers? Well my random rant of the day has concluded /setflameshieldstomax -joe_fierce |
Trying the W/Me build and FINALLY making it to the smites yesterday got me 2 ectos from one mob. I died after, didn't bother going back in x]. Went back in today as a terra tank, got 2 ectos within 15 minutes and 3 or 4 more dropped for the rest of my party.
And that's after my horrible streak of 19 solo runs without an ecto (not daily runs...)
So yeah, I'm guessing it's luck.
Joe Fierce
well, mang, i can understand that, but obviously alot more people than just myself are having bad luck....trader says that. either that or everyones being stingy
Cacheelma
Trader doesn't say anything. Prices go up and down depending not only on the supply, but also on the DEMAND.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Trader doesn't say anything. Prices go up and down depending not only on the supply, but also on the DEMAND.
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mr_groovy
Not another doom thread about constant favor + Ecto drop rate + Prices :S.
They'll go down a bit, then up. Allways did, allways will.
They'll go down a bit, then up. Allways did, allways will.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Not another doom thread about constant favor + Ecto drop rate + Prices :S.
They'll go down a bit, then up. Allways did, allways will. |
Curse You
Joe Fierce
no, personally i'd like to see that happen (yes my current batch would be killed in price but hey), the only thing i'm concerned with is learning why it is that they are rising?
Darkobra
Not everyone sells back to the trader. A lot of people might buy from the rare material trader, but most people try to sell them off to real people. So supply and demand might not apply here if no one's actually supplying the rare material trader.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Curse You
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Technically shouldn't. Just means it's become more affordable IMHO... but seems that people hate it because some of their items are devalued. So are mine.
Necro FoW bought when ectos were at 10-11k at trader: 1,200k
Necro FoW today: ~800k
... And that should bother me how? That someone can now afford it for 400k less than the total value of mine was? Erm... no... >_>. Monetary value means **** when you enjoy your items IMHO.
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So about prices, seems it has reached a somewhat stable price. Demand rises, so does the offer... stable raise. Stable prices.
EDIT: Not sure I've read the topic carefully.. if they're rising, means that more people are after them and the supply is going a bit down... will fix itself. Then will come back. But I haven't noticed a BIG difference, since I still saw people buying/selling at 4.7k-5k...
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
Not everyone sells back to the trader. A lot of people might buy from the rare material trader, but most people try to sell them off to real people. So supply and demand might not apply here if no one's actually supplying the rare material trader.
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Viruzzz
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Viruzzz
obviously yes. ecto in GW is like oxygen in the real world. without it we will all die.
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Curse You
I think I may have figured out the cause of this minor increase you seem to be so concerned with: Chaos Gloves.
There wasn't an immediate effect on the price of Ectoplasm, because most people either hadn't gotten that far, or didn't have EotN yet. Now, since EotN has been out for a while, more people are getting to the Central Transfer Chamber and so are buying (75) ectoplasm for the gloves.
There wasn't an immediate effect on the price of Ectoplasm, because most people either hadn't gotten that far, or didn't have EotN yet. Now, since EotN has been out for a while, more people are getting to the Central Transfer Chamber and so are buying (75) ectoplasm for the gloves.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Curse You
I think I may have figured out the cause of this minor increase you seem to be so concerned with: Chaos Gloves.
There wasn't an immediate effect on the price of Ectoplasm, because most people either hadn't gotten that far, or didn't have EotN yet. Now, since EotN has been out for a while, more people are getting to the Central Transfer Chamber and so are buying (75) ectoplasm for the gloves. |
-Loki-
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
While not a real source of income anymore I still occasionally do it as a recreational sort of thing (if for nothing else but to be able to buy some stuff without breaking my pretty gold hold i'm very OCD).
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Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
I.E. people are being stingy, ok, finally someone that i can see their point, we have a victor it may seem for the small moment being. but one thing that i'd like to note is that most douche bags get their prices from the traders, so in the end even the p2p market is driven by trader.
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Case closed.
maraxusofk
one person's drop rate is not representative of everyone's..................
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
The why complain about it?
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Mork from Ork
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Originally Posted by Viruzzz
obviously yes. ecto in GW is like oxygen in the real world. without it we will all die.
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ie: if you have ectos your worth is rising and your money can buy more. (cash them in and you will have more gold than you would have had a month ago - more cash to buy things with)
If you do not have them your worth is dropping because a higher ecto price would drive inflation (as those who have them decide it is time to cash them in and buy things)
Not a game breaker and not necessarily an indication of their supply or drop rate - but it does effect the buying/selling part of the game.
Jetdoc
The ecto price increase was likely due to the tons of excess money that was generated from the Wintersday holidays...it was common for the dedicated farmer to make over 300K during that span.
When these farmers run out of gold storage, they look for alternative items to invest in - the most logical of which is ecto.
You'll gradually see the ecto price go back down, but a temporary spike can be expected shortly after events (ahem - Canthan New Year - ahem).
When these farmers run out of gold storage, they look for alternative items to invest in - the most logical of which is ecto.
You'll gradually see the ecto price go back down, but a temporary spike can be expected shortly after events (ahem - Canthan New Year - ahem).