Anti - condition Paragon

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Shuriken
Shuriken
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
Motivation 12+3+1
Leadership 12+1
Water Magic 3

[skill]cautery signet[/skill][skill]frigid armor[/skill][skill]awe[/skill][skill]there's nothing to fear[/skill][skill]aria of restoration[/skill][skill]aria of zeal[/skill][skill]leaders zeal[/skill][skill]signet of return[/skill]


I have been using this build in places where there are a lot of conditions, now, I was hoping to get some constructive criticism on it. So nothing like this build is crap or whatever, if you got something usefull to say about it please do, otherwise just sshhh. Thanks in forward, Pfong.
Wakka
Wakka
Jungle Guide
#2
I'm confused as to why Awe is in there to be honest with no kockdown to trigger it? It may be a better idea to go with another chant/shout.
Shuriken
Shuriken
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Wakka
I'm confused as to why Awe is in there to be honest with no kockdown to trigger it? It may be a better idea to go with another chant/shout. The knockdown basicly is there because I play with ele's quite a lot, but it would indeed be better to change it for an other skill to fit groups without kd.
Pyro maniac
Pyro maniac
Desert Nomad
#4
drop frigid armor and add save yourselves?
burning isn't that bad

also 8+1 spear mastery is good, even with just auto-attacking you're dealing quite some damage (less to high armored HM mobs tho)
the Puppeteer
the Puppeteer
Jungle Guide
#5
What if you replace frigid armor with [skill]Plague Touch[/skill]?
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#6
no ias, no damage, no usefulness....


I'm confused as to why this is good?
Squishy ftw
Squishy ftw
Desert Nomad
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Yichi

I'm confused as to why this is good? Who said it was ?


I would:
- drop frigid armor for remedy sig. or mending touch
- Put at least 9 into spear mastery and drop awe for whatever spear attack skill you like.
- Change leader's zeal with SY
Kyrein
Kyrein
Krytan Explorer
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
drop frigid armor and add save yourselves?
burning isn't that bad it is when you have 30 seconds or so of it from cautery signet
Wakka
Wakka
Jungle Guide
#9
Quote: it is when you have 30 seconds or so of it from cautery signet You've just removed all conditions from the entire party. I'm sure your monk can afford to [skill=text]Mend Condition[/skill].
Moloch Vein
Moloch Vein
Forge Runner
#10
If you want to Cautery Signet wouldn't it be easier to just add Remedy Signet?

With that high motivation why not use Song of Purification? Feels like a better match.
zling
zling
Desert Nomad
#11
if you really want [skill]cautery signet[/skill] to be effective you should go /Mes for [skill]mantra of inscriptions[/skill]
cause 15 sec recharge isnt gonna help much if conditions are such a big problem for you...
or even better, go primary Mesmer and use [skill]cautery signet[/skill] along with your favourite Mesmer skills... that way you reduce [skill]cautery signet[/skill] recharge to around 1 sec, more useful lmho...
Wakka
Wakka
Jungle Guide
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
With that high motivation why not use Song of Purification? Feels like a better match. Listen to him.
Shuriken
Shuriken
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by zling or even better, go primary Mesmer and use [skill]cautery signet[/skill] along with your favourite Mesmer skills... that way you reduce [skill]cautery signet[/skill] recharge to around 1 sec, more useful lmho... That is not an option, im playing paragon to play paragon, not to play cautery signet. I was just posting this build to get some help improving it and looking what people think of it. As far as the thread is going, I am really pleased with the commenting so far, some really usefull tips and ideas in it, and I will try them all when I get at my laptop, for some reason GW keeps getting stuck on my PC. Thanks to
those already commented, I really like the Paragon community. Keep going and thanks already!

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
What if you replace frigid armor with [skill]Plague Touch[/skill]? It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while?
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Shuriken That is not an option, im playing paragon to play paragon, not to play cautery signet. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuriken
Motivation 12+3+1
Leadership 12+1
Water Magic 3 Those attributes suggest you are not playing paragon.
Moloch Vein
Moloch Vein
Forge Runner
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Shuriken
It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while? Well, if you think it's cool to burn stuff you can always use Plague Sending. Maybe a little pricey for a Paragon, but... I still think SoP would be a more effective anti-Conditioner.

Also I agree with Racthoh, I think your attributes are off. Don't really see the point in the superior rune if we talk about malus versus return, don't see the point in zero Spear either.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#16
Just put [skill]Song of Purification[/skill] on any spear build and you're set...

something like

[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Purification[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill][skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][wiki]"There's Nothing to Fear!"[/wiki][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]

11+1 motivation, 11+x+1 spear, 8 tactics, 3+1 command
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Marverick
Just put [skill]Song of Purification[/skill] on any spear build and you're set...

something like

[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Purification[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill][skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][wiki]"There's Nothing to Fear!"[/wiki][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]

11+1 motivation, 11+x+1 spear, 8 tactics, 3+1 command 0 leadership, your aggressive refrain lasts 5 seconds and TNTF lasts 4 seconds. Good luck keeping AR up, let alone managing your energy.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkantos
0 leadership, your aggressive refrain lasts 5 seconds and TNTF lasts 4 seconds. Good luck keeping AR up, let alone managing your energy. lol sorry I wasn't paying attention *slaps self in head*

ok yea, so 10+1+1 motivation, 10+2 spear, 11+1 leadership, 1+1 command, and dump the tactics part
Terraban
Terraban
Krytan Explorer
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Shuriken
It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while? If "tanked good", then [skill]"It's just a flesh wound."[/skill] would be much better, no?
N
NecroticChanter
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
I agree... if i go anti-condition para, I'll take "It's just a flesh wound!"

It's cheap and effective, I usually take remedy sig in PvP along with it to get rid of the deep wound.