Ever Notice Soul Reaping has no skills?

xenoranger

xenoranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

It's an obvious point, but after looking at Energy STorage, Fast Casting, STrength, Expertise, and Divine Favor, I have to wonder why Soul Reaping is the only exclusive that doesn't have any skills you can get?

Id Est: In Expertise (R), you can get distracting shot or in Fast Casting (Me), you can get Mantra of Recovery.

Anyone have any insight as to why Necros are the only build that don't get any skills that benefit their Exclusive attribute?

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Really? Necros have no Soul Reaping Skills?
-.-"

Heh, sorry, but it's prety well known that necros don't have SR skills, but then again, the mesmer FAst Cast skill "Mantra of Recovery" is a crappy skill.

Only Warriors, Rangers and Monks have a good advantage from their primary atribute. Probably because Necro Soul Reaping already has a huge benefit to necros or something...

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Soul Reaping is the best energy managment in the game. Fast Casting only has one skill - a skill that isn't very useful.

My only problem is with all the "Improves casting speed/recharge using Soul Reaping skills" focus items there are in the game. :P

I don't really see why Soul Reaping -needs- skills.

Hendorr

Hendorr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Enschede

W.o.F.

N/Me

I think a skill like consume corps should be soul reaping.
Also the skill soul feast should be soul reaping

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Awaken the Blood perhaps :/

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

A soul reaping skill could be something like Channeling.


If a foe in the area has less than 20-50% health, that foe loses 20-60 hp and 1-5 energy and you gain that much. Cast 1 sec, recast 20 secs, energy 10. Sounds like this should be an elite.

xenoranger

xenoranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Don't forget Elementalist's Energy Storage skills.


N E Rate....
I think they should add a skill or something that allows Necros to draw energy from Animated Allies, Dead Allies, or some other source. I'm not just talking the instant bonus you get based on how high your Soul Reaping is, but I'm saying that it would be nice to have some other benefit from soul reaping. Necros seem to have the most issues in energy management (from what I hear... although, I think it's more about timing your casts).

I will say that maintaining a lvl 7 in soul reaping has served me rather well. I would, however, like to see a little more use in that area.


No offense, Hendorr, but I think those should remain death skills. Moving them over to Soul Reaping would dither their usefullness.

peterwestonc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hobbits Of Doom

N/E

soul reaping is how a necro survives. i get about 12 energy each time a foe dies!! otherwise i would b useless

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Soul Reaping is pretty awesome as is, so I think us Necros can live with it.

xenoranger

xenoranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Yeah... I'm just saying that I'd like to see a skill attached to Soul Reaping.

At least an elite that rewards you for minions, dead party members, corpses on field, or something.

Even if it's just a chance skill...like


Just an idea.. but


Signat of the Reaper _ , 2, 30
Sacrifice 10% health to gain 5-20 energy.


or

Sacrificial Rite 5, ½, 60
Sacrifice 25% max health. All N Skills cost ½ their normal energy for 10-50 seconds



I mean.. anything would be better than nothing.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Soul Reaping is pretty awesome as is, so I think us Necros can live with it.
I would have to agree SR is fine they way it is.

Even if they added skills to it I still wouldn’t use them.

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

I feel that necromancers are being ripped off. I had a thread on the same subject. Take a look.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=85714

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

Oh noes loads of energy everytime someone dies, how terrible for them.

I imagine they will add a few skills in chapter 2 but it's not like they have a terrible deal out of it all at the moment.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

You'll also need that focus item with the 20/20 soul reaping skill thingy on it

BeatWolf

BeatWolf

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

There is also a collector 20/20 casting and recharge staff on Soul Reaping skills...

-_-

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boofhead
apparently, you'll need 3 of them!
lol...

agreed leave current spells the way they are but add something to make my 13 in soul reaping usefull...cause you know Eles having xtra mana to start with and spells to heal themselves based off of Energy Storage is so balanced to me getting mana when I kill them...

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

I have seen an Item (collector Item) that gives +20% faster casting soul reaping skills, what I think is that they have change this in the beginning of the game and forgot to take out the Item. think about it there are allso Items that give 20% faster casting on divine favor and u dont have skills for that 2, or am I mistaking??? If so whay would DF have skills and SR not ?? whay do they put an Item in that has no use???

Da Immortal King

Da Immortal King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Mo

Soul reaping has no skills? The only skill that soul reaping has is well...soul reaping. Just think about it a monster dies you get energy thats kinda like a skill right there working all the time. Just my theory.

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

so whay an Item with +20% casting speed ???? for soul reaping ??????????

Malchior Devenholm

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

*yes there are divine favor skills* and they're good too

Soul Reaping needs some skills they require corpse consumption for more energy

Soul Reaping is powerful as it is, but without any skills for it-it seems a little off balance even though it is so strong

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Soul reaping & fast casting rocks. I just wish I could have both in one character...

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

the necromancer's primary attribute is great. in PvE if you run out of energy. you are doing something wrong.

it is a bit tricky in 4v4 arenas. especially in the random one. there isn't enough *things* dying there...

i think the necromancers secondary attributes are very powerfull allready. no need to make the primary one better.

if you think about it. 4/6 of the primary attributes is directly or indirectly linked to energy. necro, ranger and ele is obvious.
the higher divine favor you have your healing/energy ratio becomes better.

Warrior is for damage and defense. (but then again warrior isn't suposed to be an energy deamon, however there are tactics skills that give energy) and mesmer primary is fast casting. which is very powerfull in itself.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Maybe something like IWAY, "For every dead ally"...
E.g:

For every dead ally, you gain +1 energy regeneration for X seconds.