Ill add the RT line:
[skill]Lamentation[/skill] The recharge is to long and the dmg is weak
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill] not worth a elite
[skill]Armor of Unfeeling[/skill] A waste of slot when playing spammer
The Worst Skill!
spirit of defeat
ensoriki
Archer's signet the worst skill?
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill.
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill.
Cherng Butter
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Originally Posted by ensoriki
Archer's signet the worst skill?
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill. Don't people use this to spam attack/interrupts?
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill. Don't people use this to spam attack/interrupts?
ensoriki
Im not calling experts the worst skill.
Im saying its worse than Archers which means Archer's can't be the worst skill.
Also... what interrupts are people spamming new ? expertise can't cancel the cost of this out.your always be paying stuff like 10 or something energy per attack do to this skill.
Im saying its worse than Archers which means Archer's can't be the worst skill.
Also... what interrupts are people spamming new ? expertise can't cancel the cost of this out.your always be paying stuff like 10 or something energy per attack do to this skill.
Wakka
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Washi
It could be worth it to use it with other weapons, like scythe. You could spam eremites and mystic, dunno if it would work, just a thought.
distilledwill
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Originally Posted by Washi
It could be worth it to use it with other weapons, like scythe. You could spam eremites and mystic, dunno if it would work, just a thought.
Ive tried that very tactic and it works pretty well, as long as you manage your energy well (take Zealous Sweep or something) you can pump out a fair bit of damage with a decent IAS.
The Meth
[skill]Expert's Dexterity[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
Being able to make nearly every bow shot you make interrupt and disable for 20 seconds isnt too bad, and it only costs about 4 or 5 energy total still. I can think of worse elites. If the prep didn't kill the rest of your bar it would be very good I bet.
Now anyone who can find a use for one of these gets a cookie from me.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]
Being able to make nearly every bow shot you make interrupt and disable for 20 seconds isnt too bad, and it only costs about 4 or 5 energy total still. I can think of worse elites. If the prep didn't kill the rest of your bar it would be very good I bet.
Now anyone who can find a use for one of these gets a cookie from me.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]
Scourgey
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Originally Posted by The Meth
Now anyone who can find a use for one of these gets a cookie from me.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill] Oh please, these skills have their uses.
Balthazar's Pendulum is a good skill to use with smiters boon build, because it is one of the few skills there that are cheap + relatively fast recharging, not so much because of it's actual skill, but the synergy of healing. It also serves as a cheap cover enchant. An example usable build is:
Reversal of Damage
Divine Intervention || Watchful healing
Smite Hex
Smite Condition
Judge's intervention
Balthazar's pendulum [Elite]
Smiters Boon
Contemplation of purity
Clamor of souls is begging to be used with a minion master in PvE, sure you won't want to have the minion master build on the ritualist.
"Help Me!" however doesn't have much of a use in random play, in a very heavy orientated buff build it could be useful so your support players don't spend so long casting spells so are less suspectible to interruptions. I think it needs a buff so you don't need to spend as many points into it to get 100% coverage.
I'm not saying these skills deserve much praise though, there are better combinations.
The only completely useless skill that has no role that I can think of is protective bond. It used to have a role in farming not anymore.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill] Oh please, these skills have their uses.
Balthazar's Pendulum is a good skill to use with smiters boon build, because it is one of the few skills there that are cheap + relatively fast recharging, not so much because of it's actual skill, but the synergy of healing. It also serves as a cheap cover enchant. An example usable build is:
Reversal of Damage
Divine Intervention || Watchful healing
Smite Hex
Smite Condition
Judge's intervention
Balthazar's pendulum [Elite]
Smiters Boon
Contemplation of purity
Clamor of souls is begging to be used with a minion master in PvE, sure you won't want to have the minion master build on the ritualist.
"Help Me!" however doesn't have much of a use in random play, in a very heavy orientated buff build it could be useful so your support players don't spend so long casting spells so are less suspectible to interruptions. I think it needs a buff so you don't need to spend as many points into it to get 100% coverage.
I'm not saying these skills deserve much praise though, there are better combinations.
The only completely useless skill that has no role that I can think of is protective bond. It used to have a role in farming not anymore.
DeBron
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Originally Posted by Wakka
Yes and on that note im adding [skill=text]Poison Arrow[/skill] to mine.
Barbed+Poison Arrow allows for quick multitarget degen, unlike AP+BA. Neither skill deserves to be mentioned in a "worst skill" thread.
N1ghtstalker
the pendelum can be used in arena's against hammer warriors considering most warriors are hammer with either earth shaker of backbreaker
but still i prefer WoH in an arena
worst skill = ursan
it's useless
it's stupid
it's overated
i can't believe DoA went to hell just cuz everyone uses ursan now >_<
but still i prefer WoH in an arena
worst skill = ursan
it's useless
it's stupid
it's overated
i can't believe DoA went to hell just cuz everyone uses ursan now >_<
Avarre
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Originally Posted by ax mastery
[skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] + [skill]Concussion Shot[/skill]>you
Using your elite for the same role as your primary attribute in that way is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself.
azzer20
I'll add a mesmer skill
Tease.
Tease.
Brian Fellow
Even with a minion master Clamor of Soul still sux b/c it only strikes a foe once. You can easily use Ancestor's Rage for basically the same effect without wasting an elite
Wakka
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Originally Posted by DeBron
Barbed+Poison Arrow allows for quick multitarget degen, unlike AP+BA. Neither skill deserves to be mentioned in a "worst skill" thread.
Yes its greatness is displayed with the amount of Ranger's seen running it 
Not to say that a skill be used much to be good, but Bleeding is only good for one thing and thats a cover condition.
Not to say that a skill be used much to be good, but Bleeding is only good for one thing and thats a cover condition.
Brian Fellow
Iron Mist is just terrible. Especially when a certain NPC casts it and makes your entire party useless in dmg
Scourgey
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Originally Posted by Brian Fellow
Even with a minion master Clamor of Soul still sux b/c it only strikes a foe once. You can easily use Ancestor's Rage for basically the same effect without wasting an elite
Ancestor's rage has a much smaller range. Clamor of souls has "nearby range". I'm not saying I consider it elite worthy, but this is about the worst skill, and Clamor of souls clearly imo is not the worst skill.
ax mastery
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Using your elite for the same role as your primary attribute in that way is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself.
Its not as bad as you are suggesting, I ran it in a byob gvg one time, and it was hilarious. It's a 21 second daze, 5 recharge skill which only has one drawback (13ish energy per shot). AS lets you spam it on recharge.
I'm not saying its really good, but it is hilariously funny, and not terrible either. My favorite byob build by far.
I'm not saying its really good, but it is hilariously funny, and not terrible either. My favorite byob build by far.
Wakka
Daze is badddd in GvG.
distilledwill
I have to say, I think one of the worst is:
Supportive Spirit: For 5...19 seconds, whenever target ally takes damage while knocked down, that ally is healed for 5...29 Health.
Everytime i look at it i just think:
"Wait.. what? why?"
Supportive Spirit: For 5...19 seconds, whenever target ally takes damage while knocked down, that ally is healed for 5...29 Health.
Everytime i look at it i just think:
"Wait.. what? why?"
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Wakka
Daze is badddd in GvG.
Not really. Many guilds have successfully used Smoke Trap/BHA.
Wakka
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Lyger
I can't believe no one has yet said [skill]Extend Conditions[/skill].
Wakka
Supportive Spirit used to be used a bit in HA before Aura of Stability I thinks.
spirit of defeat
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Originally Posted by Scourgey
Oh please, these skills have their uses.
Clamor of souls is begging to be used with a minion master in PvE, sure you won't want to have the minion master build on the ritualist. Never used it, and probably never will, not as it is now. Damage is too weak.
Clamor of souls is begging to be used with a minion master in PvE, sure you won't want to have the minion master build on the ritualist. Never used it, and probably never will, not as it is now. Damage is too weak.
Dutch Masterr
[skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill]
[skill]signet of strength[/skill]
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite...
[skill]signet of strength[/skill]
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite...
The Meth
If we are including monster only skills, Parasitic Bite takes the cake.
For those that don't know what it does, it is a hex that makes the foe have 1 degen and you gain 1 regen, for 5 seconds. This is used in EotN, a high level area, by dervishes. It is literally less then half as strong as life siphon at 0 blood magic.
For those that don't know what it does, it is a hex that makes the foe have 1 degen and you gain 1 regen, for 5 seconds. This is used in EotN, a high level area, by dervishes. It is literally less then half as strong as life siphon at 0 blood magic.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
[skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill]
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite...
Wastrel's Collapse i use for a constant KD warrior, but its kinda hard to work but its fun for annoying people or shutting down a boss for eternity.
warriors cunning would be good if it was 20 sec recharge not a min
prot bond=fail
dryder's defense same thing as cunning with a 30sec recharge instead
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite...
Wastrel's Collapse i use for a constant KD warrior, but its kinda hard to work but its fun for annoying people or shutting down a boss for eternity.
warriors cunning would be good if it was 20 sec recharge not a min
prot bond=fail
dryder's defense same thing as cunning with a 30sec recharge instead
Teutonic Paladin
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Wastrel's Collapse i use for a constant KD warrior, but its kinda hard to work but its fun for annoying people or shutting down a boss for eternity.
warriors cunning would be good if it was 20 sec recharge not a min
prot bond=fail
dryder's defense same thing as cunning with a 30sec recharge instead Since those two skills don't have that update they're bad, no question. If I understand correctly, you're using KDs so they can't cast during Wastrel's duration. However, most players will be casting again the instant they stand up and will disable Wastrel's before it can activate. If you want to KD with a warrior take a better skill like Shock, Backbreaker, Earthshaker, or Devastating Hammer.
warriors cunning would be good if it was 20 sec recharge not a min
prot bond=fail
dryder's defense same thing as cunning with a 30sec recharge instead Since those two skills don't have that update they're bad, no question. If I understand correctly, you're using KDs so they can't cast during Wastrel's duration. However, most players will be casting again the instant they stand up and will disable Wastrel's before it can activate. If you want to KD with a warrior take a better skill like Shock, Backbreaker, Earthshaker, or Devastating Hammer.
hnkelau
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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
[skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill]
[skill]signet of strength[/skill]
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite... [skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill], good skill if it wasnt elite.
[skill]signet of strength[/skill] /signed
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill] not that bad, was used in top10 pvp in early 06.
[skill]protective bond[/skill] birth of 55's, could now be used with the ranger 55hp build.
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill] bad, too long recharge
[skill]repeating strike[/skill] Could be placed in some builds.
Imo [skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill] 2 sec cast, elite, too low dmg
[skill]signet of strength[/skill]
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill]
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill]
[skill]repeating strike[/skill]
Wastrel's Collapse is definatley the worst skill ever....i would never use this even if it wasn't elite... [skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill], good skill if it wasnt elite.
[skill]signet of strength[/skill] /signed
[skill]warrior's cunning[/skill] not that bad, was used in top10 pvp in early 06.
[skill]protective bond[/skill] birth of 55's, could now be used with the ranger 55hp build.
[skill]dryder's defenses[/skill] bad, too long recharge
[skill]repeating strike[/skill] Could be placed in some builds.
Imo [skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill] 2 sec cast, elite, too low dmg
chowmein69
light of dwayna
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Wakka
Yes its greatness is displayed with the amount of Ranger's seen running it
Not to say that a skill be used much to be good, but Bleeding is only good for one thing and thats a cover condition. To be fair though, it'll really mess with a team full of newbies
Wammo: OMG I'M BLEEDING! I'M POISONED! HELPS EHLPS! I GOT -7 DEGEN! MONK HEAL! HEAL!
Not to say that a skill be used much to be good, but Bleeding is only good for one thing and thats a cover condition. To be fair though, it'll really mess with a team full of newbies
Wammo: OMG I'M BLEEDING! I'M POISONED! HELPS EHLPS! I GOT -7 DEGEN! MONK HEAL! HEAL!
Coloneh
healing spring. the only use is a sub-par minion heal.
Biostem
Just a question: would you consider a skill that is ok but vastly overshadowed by another skill, to fit here?
So, for instance, would [skill]draw spirit[/skill] be bad because [skill]Summon Spirits[/skill] is better?
So, for instance, would [skill]draw spirit[/skill] be bad because [skill]Summon Spirits[/skill] is better?
Chael
It's not really fair to compare normal skills to PvE-only skills.
StormDragonZ
Worst Skill = Signet of Stamina
Why? Because it's used for runners, and I don't like runners. Personal opinion choice.
Why? Because it's used for runners, and I don't like runners. Personal opinion choice.
bathazard
lol awsome skill +1000 hp FTW lol
Gift3d
[skill]Burning Shield[/skill] http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Burning_Shield
[skill]Vengeance[/skill]
[skill]Unyielding Aura[/skill]
[skill]"You Will Die!"[/skill]
[skill]Signet of Strength[/skill]
[skill]Splinter Shot[/skill]
[skill]Quick Shot[/skill] Has some uses, but as an elite? No.
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]balthazar's aura[/skill] after the nerfs, worthless.
[skill]master of magic[/skill] never got this one....
[skill]second wind[/skill] this one either...
That's about it.
[skill]Vengeance[/skill]
[skill]Unyielding Aura[/skill]
[skill]"You Will Die!"[/skill]
[skill]Signet of Strength[/skill]
[skill]Splinter Shot[/skill]
[skill]Quick Shot[/skill] Has some uses, but as an elite? No.
[skill]protective bond[/skill]
[skill]balthazar's aura[/skill] after the nerfs, worthless.
[skill]master of magic[/skill] never got this one....
[skill]second wind[/skill] this one either...
That's about it.
Painbringer
[skill]Extend Conditions[/skill] Using only mesmer skills Mesmer’s can only apply 3 conditions…. 2 of them take 10 seconds to take effect and the other is dependant on 2 hexes to be in place to cause the condition.
How many hoops
Any way
[skill]primal rage[/skill]
Take one thing away and it could be great…. Honestly A assassin with basic skills can out class this one
Edit
[skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill] [skill]illusionary weaponry[/skill] GG
Of course you would have to be a Warrior running an IW build which would be a waste of talent…. But anything goes in RA
How many hoops
Any way
[skill]primal rage[/skill]
Take one thing away and it could be great…. Honestly A assassin with basic skills can out class this one
Edit
[skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill] [skill]illusionary weaponry[/skill] GG
Of course you would have to be a Warrior running an IW build which would be a waste of talent…. But anything goes in RA
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
[skill]second wind[/skill] this one either...
That's about it.
master of magic is great on smiters: spamming rof and guardian under zealot's fire.
second wind was ran after the e-prodigy nerf on ele runners.
iQ used it in the autumn finale against QQ.
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Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Swirling aura. When i eventually found out it existed i had to read it a few times thinking i missed somthing. xD
=D I just faced in in TA. A water ele spamming blurred vision while your ranger interupts are constantly blocked (used cs, no mb). May need a buff like natural stride: 5 energy, 7-8 duration @12 spec and 12 recharge |