Reporting Botting Gold Sellers - Gaile plz read :)
cebalrai
I just got a PM from a gold seller while I was in AB....
The Way Out
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Originally Posted by cebalrai
I just got a PM from a gold seller while I was in AB....
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scrinner
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| If /report [gold selling] is made against a trial account, it should result in immediate censorship. The trial account would lose the ability to communicate in local and trade until they buy the game, or perhaps if anet investigates. The potential for abuse here is low. Nobody is going to risk their own account standing to try to abuse trial account players. |
We could also have some sort of Tag added as a pre/suffix of a name so players understand their Trial Players or something... Then allow only Team chat and so on. However I dont think the game And the massive ammount of loading you have to do in between maps after a fresh download go hand in hand with trial accounts...
Dimitri_Stucoff
Yea, these gold sellers are really annoying. But in all honesty if any online game truely wanted to rid themselves of them, (or for that matter any company wanted to prevent their product from being aquired through less than legal means) all they have to do is google their own product plus one or two choice words. For instance, google "guild wars gold". There are at least 30 pages of sites wanting to sell gold right there. I am sure that Anet can come up with some legal mumbo jumbo to sue the gold sellers and stop the bots right at the source. But then again they might be operating out of some third world country that is outside the realm of the law. These bots are getting out of hand. What we really need is a bot uprising.
cebalrai
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Originally Posted by scrinner
I Would Suggest A One Month Ban As the lightest punishment for sending in a fake report. Otherwise that is a brilliant idea I suppose.
We could also have some sort of Tag added as a pre/suffix of a name so players understand their Trial Players or something... Then allow only Team chat and so on. However I dont think the game And the massive ammount of loading you have to do in between maps after a fresh download go hand in hand with trial accounts... |
No loading at all if you want to set up another trial account. None.
cebalrai
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Originally Posted by Dimitri_Stucoff
Yea, these gold sellers are really annoying. But in all honesty if any online game truely wanted to rid themselves of them, (or for that matter any company wanted to prevent their product from being aquired through less than legal means) all they have to do is google their own product plus one or two choice words. For instance, google "guild wars gold". There are at least 30 pages of sites wanting to sell gold right there. I am sure that Anet can come up with some legal mumbo jumbo to sue the gold sellers and stop the bots right at the source. But then again they might be operating out of some third world country that is outside the realm of the law. These bots are getting out of hand. What we really need is a bot uprising.
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Torqual
Great so using Guru and posting your IGN here is now a spamtrap.
This is a great reason for not displaying it. I hid mine a while back just before a moron poster here disagreed with something I said, and threatened to hatespam me in game.
Printing IGN on Guru = invitation to be annoyed.
This is a great reason for not displaying it. I hid mine a while back just before a moron poster here disagreed with something I said, and threatened to hatespam me in game.
Printing IGN on Guru = invitation to be annoyed.
Shakti
Getting PMs from sellers in ascelon constantly the second I zone in. I mean right after I load, is it a bot program? Humans can't react that fast EVERY time. Only complaint about /report is there isn't a selling option, I used Spam.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Torqual
Great so using Guru and posting your IGN here is now a spamtrap.
This is a great reason for not displaying it. I hid mine a while back just before a moron poster here disagreed with something I said, and threatened to hatespam me in game. Printing IGN on Guru = invitation to be annoyed. |
But on-topic, I hate gold sellers who PM at the SECOND I load in GToB, especially when I reroll characters for PvP. Else gold sellers don't bother me much.
free_fall
"Direct PMs from gold sellers seems to be becoming more frequent in my experience."
I had my first experience of this just last night when I mapped into KC. 5 or 6 PMs by the time I asked in genchat how to use /report and got an answer. Had to choose Spamming as no Gold Seller option.
Had a real name, not gibberish. Someone in genchat asked if I was reporting so-and-so, too, as he just had himself.
I had my first experience of this just last night when I mapped into KC. 5 or 6 PMs by the time I asked in genchat how to use /report and got an answer. Had to choose Spamming as no Gold Seller option.
Had a real name, not gibberish. Someone in genchat asked if I was reporting so-and-so, too, as he just had himself.
cebalrai
Just a quick thanks to Gaile for following this thread.
Also wanted to say that a quick survey of my guild is showing that about 30% of us get PMs from gold sellers every few days or more.
Also wanted to say that a quick survey of my guild is showing that about 30% of us get PMs from gold sellers every few days or more.
God Apprentice
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Ok, some info:
The trial accounts can't trade, and I don't think they can whisper, but they can spam.  I brought this up at a recent meeting, and I hope that we'll take steps to fix that. However, I'm honestly not sure what to do about it, because it seems unfair to offer a trial where someone can't even talk to others to learn about the game, form a party, etc. This requires some contemplation.I am hoping that we can add "gold selling" as an option of the /report system. Would be very nice to have that option. But in the meantime, since all the sellers spam anyway, just hit "spamming" and you're good. Does it matter if you report? Absolutely! I sent off 100 reports the other night and the reports are reviewed daily and as one of our support leads said, "The team looooves banning bots! Keep the reports coming!" |
If you don't I figure you all should have active GMs in "hot spots" such as Great Temple of Balthazar, that way gold spammers can be eliminated more quickly.
Fil Arun
I'm not Gaile, but I seem to recall reading in an article posted a year ago (that I can't find now, if I'd been playing GW at the time I could probably remember better) that was talking about how one of the things that helped GW make money without monthly fees was not having nearly as much of a support staff, which would say to me that there are either few or no GMs on a regular basis.
Just remember, active GMs require active pay. Without a steady stream of income flowing in through subscription fees it's a bit harder to supply them with that money.
Just remember, active GMs require active pay. Without a steady stream of income flowing in through subscription fees it's a bit harder to supply them with that money.
Jake_Steel
I guess I should feel lucky, I've never been annoyed by this Gold Spankers....
Sergeant of Marines
^ ^ you are one of the few I think...so feel very, very lucky.
cebalrai
Okay this is getting ridiculous. I'm getting PM'd directly by gold sellers every 20 minutes or so. I ignore them, but new ones PM me. It's from multiple PMers and it's happening when I'm out in a zone fighting monsters, so I'm definitely on a friends list somewhere.
It seems I'm on the friends' list for a network of bots. They're from 2 different gold selling websites.
Gaile, is there any way the communication ability of these gibberish trial accounts can be limited?
It seems I'm on the friends' list for a network of bots. They're from 2 different gold selling websites.
Gaile, is there any way the communication ability of these gibberish trial accounts can be limited?
erk
The Itemcoo botting is a bad as ever all weekend almost ever minute in the id1 RA staging area, you think A.net could just block thier IP or block any use of the word itemcoo or something.
chowmein69
now the bots are all pm'ing me ingame and i put them all on ignore... got like 6 on my ignore list today 
Albert Algorn
I was really surprised at the time but this is happening to me as well. The pm's started last weekend. I looked for a way to report the name, which btw are strange, but couldn't find one. I answered the first one back with a comment but gave up after that. The thing is that it isn't just happening in The Temple of Balthazar international districts. It is happening everywhere? Did they scour of a list of character names from Anet servers or the web to for spamming or something? 
Maybe I should put them all on ignore but I'm going to need a longer ignore list to do it!
Maybe I should put them all on ignore but I'm going to need a longer ignore list to do it!
pkodyssey
I have a huge problem with the steady string of gold spamers, and obvious bots making gold to be sold by gold spammers.
What totally pisses me off is when a a couple of people I know personally, who are fanatical in reaching titles get banned for botting. I know they don't even have the knowledge to defrag their hard drive let alone create a bot, get perma-banned for "botting".
The so called research anet does to investigate bots is a joke. The obvious dodge the ban stick repeatedly, and the unfortunate or those that don't know any better and use the same route and method to exit a town for hours on end to gain a stupid title get the ban stick BEAT down on them. Anet has told them they are looking into it, but they are pretty much giving up. Between them they have 2 dozen slots and over 7000 hours of game play.
Makes me lose my interest in playing and frustrated that this crap keeps happening to a lot of people.
I think that you will see more long time members getting the ban stick, because there is nothing new to do except grind titles. People that may not have previously consider using macros or bots might be tempted because of the lack of new content. 2009 is a long way out, anet needs "worthy" content to keep players interested, and to reduce temptation.
What totally pisses me off is when a a couple of people I know personally, who are fanatical in reaching titles get banned for botting. I know they don't even have the knowledge to defrag their hard drive let alone create a bot, get perma-banned for "botting".
The so called research anet does to investigate bots is a joke. The obvious dodge the ban stick repeatedly, and the unfortunate or those that don't know any better and use the same route and method to exit a town for hours on end to gain a stupid title get the ban stick BEAT down on them. Anet has told them they are looking into it, but they are pretty much giving up. Between them they have 2 dozen slots and over 7000 hours of game play.
Makes me lose my interest in playing and frustrated that this crap keeps happening to a lot of people.
I think that you will see more long time members getting the ban stick, because there is nothing new to do except grind titles. People that may not have previously consider using macros or bots might be tempted because of the lack of new content. 2009 is a long way out, anet needs "worthy" content to keep players interested, and to reduce temptation.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by erk
The Itemcoo botting is a bad as ever all weekend almost ever minute in the id1 RA staging area, you think A.net could just block thier IP or block any use of the word itemcoo or something.
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"Get free ectos when you buy GW gold at RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.com"
It would force the gold-sellers to register new websites (something more expensive than adding the new website to the filter list) or give up on spamming. Glorious!
Three cheers for Erk!
hurdlebeast
they are definitely bots, btw, me and a couple other chars figured out the ctrl+tab method they were using, timed and everything.
Edit: I just realized something. almost as annoying as the bots are the 10 yr olds that spam either emotes (/dance, over and over and over and over...) or spam stupid sayings. they are almost as bad.
Edit: I just realized something. almost as annoying as the bots are the 10 yr olds that spam either emotes (/dance, over and over and over and over...) or spam stupid sayings. they are almost as bad.
Drake Keyotte
The PM's from gold selling bots is something new to me. I have owned and played the game for over 2 years and have never once gotten a PM from a Bot selling gold. But alas, yesterday, in LA, Ascalon City, Kamadan and Kaineng City I was spammed PM's selling gold or pushing a website. Each spam hit me as soon as I entered the city regardless of district.
Junk mail is nothing new to me but I have filters and programs to deal with it in email ect. A game like GW on the other hand has nothing to offer to combat it except for reporting ect and getting spammed via PM in game is just something I dont feel we should tolerate. I paid good money to purchase all the campaigns plus the BMP and for what? to get spammed PM's until my ignore list is full? I dont want to spend my time /reporting XXXX. Never had to do this in the past, I just want to enjoy the game but hanging out in a town selling items and getting multiple PM's spams is nuts.
Junk mail is nothing new to me but I have filters and programs to deal with it in email ect. A game like GW on the other hand has nothing to offer to combat it except for reporting ect and getting spammed via PM in game is just something I dont feel we should tolerate. I paid good money to purchase all the campaigns plus the BMP and for what? to get spammed PM's until my ignore list is full? I dont want to spend my time /reporting XXXX. Never had to do this in the past, I just want to enjoy the game but hanging out in a town selling items and getting multiple PM's spams is nuts.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by cebalrai
I would rather see people stop saying "GORED ENGINE..." than for botters to disappear.
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I hate this so much.
Bunch of retards that actually think this gets the point across better.
DarkGanni
Bot Seller: *insert advert here*
Me: stfu
Bot Seller: *insert advert here*
Bot Seller: *insert advert here*
having 3 of those messages filling my screen is annoying, they also pm me when I'm not in great temple. More /report options would be a good idea I think.
- Ganni
Me: stfu
Bot Seller: *insert advert here*
Bot Seller: *insert advert here*
having 3 of those messages filling my screen is annoying, they also pm me when I'm not in great temple. More /report options would be a good idea I think.
- Ganni