Doing the doppleganger but failing bonus?

RattlerGUNZ

RattlerGUNZ

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

N/E

I just used 2 skills in my skill bar, Meteor Shower and Flare [put them at the last 2 slots]. Meteor Shower knocked him down when he's down spam Flare.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
lol, beating doppelganger is the most easiest shit in the whole game.. you just need a skill bar full of skills, that will be all NO advantage for the doppelganger, buy maybe even benefit you far more, any skills, that don't cause damage to you, but have very long cast times and reload time...

skills like ranger spirits, or easy to interrupt skills, like traps... you have just to combine skills that the doppelganger should use and should help him absolutely not together with skills, with that you will be able to kill the doppelganger, before the doppelganger will use them too...

the doppelganger is extreme easy to manipulate, because he will EVER use first all his buffs, traps, preparations, stances ect. FIRST, before he will use any attack skills and spells!!!

Most easy is it, when you give your build some pve only skills, the doppelganger is UNABLE to copy those skills

Take into your build:

Ursan Blessing
Ebon Vanguard Assasine
Pain Inverter
(Rest full of for the Doppelganger useless enchants, preparations ect. which won't benefit him)

Match starts, use the sin on him, asap pain Inverter following and transform to UB and rush at the Doppeganger ...
The Dopel will watch all his time with the for him useless enchants ,preps ec.t, while the assassin smashes and interrupts at the Doppel and you as UB kick his butt in short time into the ground. The rest will be supported by self owning damage from pain inverter, if he tries maybe to attack you normally meanwhile, or the ebon sin

this tactics with manipulating skills to let the doppelganger become a dumb noob works with all professions, its just the matter of the right secondary mostly to have the right, or better said.. enough useful skills for your bar, with that the doppelganger will just waste time, while you can easily smash him to death in short time, so short, that you get eassily the bonus and will have the feeling, you could also do this blinded with only 1 finger

Or just a bunch of spells that do no damage and backfire? <3 mesmer

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Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Order Of The Ghost Dragons [mist]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Yeah, he also wants to do dragon's lair before doing doppleganger bonus, which requires doing doppleganger mission=). ah yeah... forgot about killing glint...

dread pirate fargus

dread pirate fargus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

in bed

X Peace And Love X [PaL]

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not sure if was pointed out but protector or guardian of tyria doesnt make an announcement (if thats even what you were aiming for) only legendary guardian.

Onyx Blindbow

Onyx Blindbow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Here & There

Blades of Burning Shadows - GoDT

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W/N

Bring Frenzy,SS & insiduous parasite, cast ss, Insid then stand there and do nothing, dopple will cast ss & insid then frenzy and start attacking you (he'll be dead inside 30 secs)

xD

TheDolph

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

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Hi, thanks for all the replies. Really appreciated, have only 3 missions left til the dopple, will use all the tips here, and find the optimal build
As for why, I wanted to get alot of announcments in a row and screen it. Plus just for kicks, might as well max them out at the same time instead one each month or something.

It's just a personal thing, getting alot of titles in one day... I think I'll do it still, even though I guess half the titles I was planning on wont be announced if Dread Pirate is correct, which I am sure he is. It just makes for a nice before and after screenie I guess...

Again, thanks for all the tips

Fuga

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Heh, first time i didnt know he had the same skills as me, so i didnt use any special build.
Fight lasted 7 min, cause i took world of healing with me. argh.

Castle Keep

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Spirit Of Faith

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I'm pretty sure the doppleganger still doesnt use healing breeze, so bring that if you want for a nice regen.

Toffin

Toffin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Camp Rankor

No Diplomacy Only War [nDoW] No Diplomacy Only Slackers [nDoS] Looking for an Alliance.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
W/N

Bring Frenzy,SS & insiduous parasite, cast ss, Insid then stand there and do nothing, dopple will cast ss & insid then frenzy and start attacking you (he'll be dead inside 30 secs)

xD Don't forget to also put on your bar Awaken the Blood, prior to going in cast it on yourself. Activate stones and then cast SS + IP on your dopple. Mine was done in about 17 secs.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Wow, way to necro a thread... read the OP will you btw... even if its old.

He was asking for a build which takes long to defeat the doppleganger so he can return later (maybe already done) and do the mission fast to max a few titles all at once

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

Well...just run around? My dopple had a spear, i had a axe...so he kept chucking, so if ur guy has a spear...keep dodging for 10min or 2min in HM then use empathy to kill him in about 20 sec

Oliasys

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Saboteurs of Sanity

R/Mo

Using my Ele/Me

I used the following skills: [in this order, left to right]

Res Signet
Swirling Aura
Don't Trip [Deldrimor Title Track]
Dwarven Stability [Deldrimor Title Track]
Meteor Shower
Snow Storm [Deldrimor Title Track]
Backfire

I cast the Meteor First, then started strafing left and right. I cast Backfire and Snowstorm every chance I got. I killed my dopple in about a minute flat or less. He was using a bow, so strafing, he never hit me. And, when he did cast meteor, I just moved to the side further and continued to strafe.

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliasys
I killed my dopple in about a minute flat or less. Wow, way to read the OP (it's about taking over 10 min).

I did it as a Monk reciently. Took Retribution and Healing Breeze only. In NM, the Dop doesn't use healing breeze. So simply let him hit you, spam Heeling Breeze on yourself, and wait 10 minutes. Once it's done, cast retribution on yourself, and start attacking the Dop.

Of course, you may be long past this point.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bathazrd
it used to be easy as hell. but the nerf the easy factor when hard mode came out so those builds don't work in hm... but aslong as u have good amour and weapon u can own him! I used frenzy then I used ursan made it very easy in HM.A lvl 5 Monk can beat it with not much of problem.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

Beating doppel should never be difficult if you put forethought into it. Here are some ideas -

1. PvE skills of any sort.
2. Spirits
3. Empathy
4. Insidious Parasite
5. Pet

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

if you want to beat the doppleganger and NOT get the bonus, the easiest thing to do (at least in normal mode) is to be */mo, have retribution, balthazar's spirit, and restfull breeze on your skillbar. cast balthazar's spirit before entering. stand there for >10 minutes casting restful breeze to keep at full health. after 10 minutes, cast retribution. and there you have it: killing doppleganger without triggering the bonus

wandi

wandi

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Bandung, Indonesia

The Order of Baa (Baa)

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I used Ursan (only), 0 attribute for all skill. R5 . 10 second on HM.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

ok here whats you do take 1 skill and wand him healing breeze ftw sorry thought you just ment beat him in nm not hm

and wow sence when did the change him only useing breeze when hes degening

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by wandi
I used Ursan (only), 0 attribute for all skill. R5 . 10 second on HM. Read the OP again please.

He wants to fail the bonus (take more than 10 minutes)

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Shenanigan
another way is to bring frenzy, deadly riposte, and skills that use energy instead of adrenaline, so skills like power attack. my doppleganger on my warr died in ~5-6 seconds. if you need a heal, bring heal sig and distracting blow and distract his. what exact bar did u use?

i needit plz

ccruzp

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDolph
Hi, I play a W/x and am currently dabbling a bit with titles. Recently I got the idea to do a title spike of, say 10 titles that can be completed in under an hour.
Two of the titles I have been looking at is Protector and Guardian of Tyria. So the best mission would be to do the doppleganger as that takes about a min. But to do that I need to first do him without completing bonus so i can get to Dragon's Lair. But I find 10 min and 2 min to be rather hefty time to first not die, then kill him.
So as said, I play Warrior and need a build/tactic to complete the doppleganger in OVER 10 min in normal, or OVER 2 min in HM.
Help is appreciated, thanks. Sprint, Enragin Charge , Feel no Pain (dont think he uses pve skills), Frenzy, Insideous parasite, Price of failure , Enfeeble, Deflect Arrows or Ursan

Use Sprint / Enrage to Dodge his projectiles, feel no pain to heal and enfeeble to make his dmg shitty and then kill him w/ curses n/or ursan when the time is right

one idea for hm is to try a VwK build, but idk if he will regen thrugh his vwk uptime or if he even uses it but i guess it would take more then 2 minutes to kill him w/ that