Rude and disrespectful buyers/sellers

Angel Puriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Rt/

Has anyone noticed the influx of rude, hostile, and/or disrespectful buyers and sellers has been increasing dramatically since the start of 2008? I've been trading in Kamadan, LA, and Kaineng for the past 3 or so months and prior to January 2008, people have been mostly nice in trading. I don't know why, but the past few weeks, there has been so many assholes whenever I make or take offers. The majority now are all pricks who instead of saying a simple "nty," want to verbally abuse you. I really wish the Ignore list wasn't limited to 10 names...

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Lots of Christmas gifts from parents to kids...

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Maybe since......2005 :P

People have always bugged me when it comes to trading.

Angel Puriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Lots of Christmas gifts from parents to kids...
Yeah, that might be it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Maybe since......2005 :P

People have always bugged me when it comes to trading.
No really, I've had good experiences trading prior to January. But it just seems now, 75-80% of the people I trade with are extreme dickheads. It's making me really dislike trading when before, I enjoyed it a lot.




BTW, I hate it when people use guru forums and the PC section as a sad excuse to lowball or make crazy high price offers. Oh, and C/O means absolute crap in-game. Again, if you dislike offers, simply say "nty," or don't respond at all.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Maybe since......2005 :P

People have always bugged me when it comes to trading.

Yea same here. At OP, you can always try guru auctions. I've had more successful transactions there then in game or on the forum. No hassle at all

Nodensis

Nodensis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

United Provinces of the Netherlands

Legend of the White [Moa]

Rt/A

Yep true, it's mostly the last couple of weeks btw. I'm not even bothered to figure out why it is, but i hope the rumoured xunlai trading house might come to solve the problem though.

(use search for details pls)

@malice:don't we all?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

This game gets worse with age.

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

Really? I havent noticed, well i dont do much trading i just love pve but when i do buy a weapon the person isnt that mean ?_?.

bart

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel Puriel
Has anyone noticed the influx of rude, hostile, and/or disrespectful buyers and sellers has been increasing dramatically since the start of 2008? I've been trading in Kamadan, LA, and Kaineng for the past 3 or so months and prior to January 2008, people have been mostly nice in trading. I don't know why, but the past few weeks, there has been so many assholes whenever I make or take offers. The majority now are all pricks who instead of saying a simple "nty," want to verbally abuse you. I really wish the Ignore list wasn't limited to 10 names...
Lets see... from what you wrote i suspect that...

"I've been trading in Kamadan, LA, and Kaineng for the past 3 or so months and prior to January 2008, people have been mostly nice in trading."
When ppl first start trading they usually trade cheaper items and ppl who buy/sell cheaper items are nicer because they are: a) new to the game; b) new to trading; c) not looking to gain huge profits; d) not reselling an item that they bought to resell.

"I don't know why, but the past few weeks, there has been so many assholes whenever I make or take offers."
Could this be because you have made some money with ur 3 months trading stint and now have moved on to medium class trading where ppl are desperate to: a) get a good deal; b) sqeeze as much profit as possible; c) look for a noob that they can take advantage of.

So you see the higher you go the more @$$ holes you meet. thats just the way the cookie crumbles.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Eh its always been like that greed is a human nature, you just have to be smart and get the most amount of money you can

Angel Puriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
Lets see... from what you wrote i suspect that...

"I've been trading in Kamadan, LA, and Kaineng for the past 3 or so months and prior to January 2008, people have been mostly nice in trading."
When ppl first start trading they usually trade cheaper items and ppl who buy/sell cheaper items are nicer because they are: a) new to the game; b) new to trading; c) not looking to gain huge profits; d) not reselling an item that they bought to resell.

"I don't know why, but the past few weeks, there has been so many assholes whenever I make or take offers."
Could this be because you have made some money with ur 3 months trading stint and now have moved on to medium class trading where ppl are desperate to: a) get a good deal; b) sqeeze as much profit as possible; c) look for a noob that they can take advantage of.

So you see the higher you go the more @$$ holes you meet. thats just the way the cookie crumbles.
I know what you're saying, but medium/high-end items aren't the only things I deal with. I also try to buy/sell "cheap" stuff. By your logic, the newbies buying/selling low-end items and are new to the game shouldn't be as rude as they are now, compared to the "vets" that's been trading prior to the 2007 holiday season. However, this doesn't seem to be the case, at least in my experience recently.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

I usually just say ''Ty '' when I buy something from someone, or if they are trying to bargain me down then I'll say ''Sorry, I can't really go any lower.'' Depending on the item.

But yeah I've never personally had super rude people, but I know they can be jerky and uptight.. Maybe they had an issue? Who knows.

Angel Puriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
I usually just say ''Ty '' when I buy something from someone, or if they are trying to bargain me down then I'll say ''Sorry, I can't really go any lower.'' Depending on the item.

But yeah I've never personally had super rude people, but I know they can be jerky and uptight.. Maybe they had an issue? Who knows.
Yeah, I always say "ty" and "take care" after a successful transaction. And I always TRY to be respectful in trading. However, when people are rude and/or annoying, I return their attitude back to them. Then I follow it up with an Ignore.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I agree with Jetdoc. You can actual track when the "jerks" come into the game. More kiddies play on weekends. Furthermore, the amount of jerks and bad PUG players spikes at ~3:30 EST after school lets out and ends around ~10 PST pm at bed time. Generally PUGs and casual PvP like RA and AB will have the worst players at these peak times (if you are playing in American districts obviously). I generally avoid PvP in non-guild groups at any time after 4 pm and before 2 am.
The first few weeks of summer vacation and other national holidays are also pretty congested.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

People over the internet being rude? No wai!

Albert Algorn

Albert Algorn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Oregon, USA

MARA: Our Turtles Know True [LOVE]

R/Me

Luckily I haven't noticed that but then I do most of my trading in Lion's Arch.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

lolz gambit ur not reffering to me i hope

but yes i agree w you to many tiny kiddies

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

That's because a lot of those spamming derelicts are Americans just trying to feel big.

In Euro it's not much better, cept for the occasional nice guy. But yea lack of dicipline the homes cause online abuse and attacks. Majority rules (American)

Sorry but it's the truth.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I agree with Jetdoc. You can actual track when the "jerks" come into the game. More kiddies play on weekends. Furthermore, the amount of jerks and bad PUG players spikes at ~3:30 EST after school lets out and ends around ~10 PST pm at bed time. Generally PUGs and casual PvP like RA and AB will have the worst players at these peak times (if you are playing in American districts obviously). I generally avoid PvP in non-guild groups at any time after 4 pm and before 2 am.
The first few weeks of summer vacation and other national holidays are also pretty congested.
This is very true... my FoW/UW groups made around 3:30-4:00 pm EST fail 95% of the time while groups I make at midnight usually succeed. I also noticed this trend in AB groups.. right around 4pm they are mostly hopeless and local chat (during the game) is filled with "noob", "1v1 me nub", etc. When I play later, around 11pm to 3am the groups I find myself in are more respectful and organised (meaning... the point is to win.. not "gank" as many people as possible).

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

..if only we had some kind of...market..to sell things in

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Has anyone done any research as to location of such people
ie are there more bad experiences in certain areas or is it a worldwide problem.

I am in the UK so usually access the European areas and havn't come accross the problems described in this and other threads.

The worst I come accross are impolite comments when someone doesnt use English and these comments are very few and hopefully reported.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

My personal favorite are, "Thats not worth xx amount its only worth about 2k."

I'll put this simply if you disagree with the price DON'T BUY IT. I don't need to be spammed with your opinion, especially if you aren't even trying to haggle. /rant

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
Lets see... from what you wrote i suspect that...

"I've been trading in Kamadan, LA, and Kaineng for the past 3 or so months and prior to January 2008, people have been mostly nice in trading."
When ppl first start trading they usually trade cheaper items and ppl who buy/sell cheaper items are nicer because they are: a) new to the game; b) new to trading; c) not looking to gain huge profits; d) not reselling an item that they bought to resell.

"I don't know why, but the past few weeks, there has been so many assholes whenever I make or take offers."
Could this be because you have made some money with ur 3 months trading stint and now have moved on to medium class trading where ppl are desperate to: a) get a good deal; b) sqeeze as much profit as possible; c) look for a noob that they can take advantage of.

So you see the higher you go the more @$$ holes you meet. thats just the way the cookie crumbles.
That seems about right

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
My personal favorite are, "Thats not worth xx amount its only worth about 2k."

I'll put this simply if you disagree with the price DON'T BUY IT. I don't need to be spammed with your opinion, especially if you aren't even trying to haggle. /rant
My sentiments exactly. If I wanted your opinion, I would ask for it. It is so annoying to have some Wammo in full black fissure tell you that your req9 pyroclastic is only worth 25k. lrn2plaiplzebayingwillmakeyougoblindkkthxbai!!!

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by slowerpoke
..if only we had some kind of...market..to sell things in
From Xunlai perhaps?

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Yea same here. At OP, you can always try guru auctions. I've had more successful transactions there then in game or on the forum. No hassle at all
Mike knows what he is talking about ^^

Wanna avoid asswipes? gogogo guru auctions! lol

Though I love the people who wont tell you what they want. They are either just waiting for you to offer higher then they wanted or cuss you out if you offer them lower then they want.

Angel Puriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Rt/

Just wanted to remind people that I'm asking if anyone realized the INFLUX of rude and disrespectful buyers/sellers RECENTLY. I know that there will always be a-holes in GW, on the internet, and in this world, but that's not what I'm concerned with.



Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

Though I love the people who wont tell you what they want. They are either just waiting for you to offer higher then they wanted or cuss you out if you offer them lower then they want.
Yeah, I hate sellers who do that. It wastes time and causes unwarranted headaches. If you want to sell something, stop it with the "offer" crap. Either name your asking price or don't be a dick if you don't like my offer because you refused to name your price.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

This isnt a doomsayer post or a GW dieing post.

But i think the economy as well as GW is just dieing at a fast speed right now. People were occupied with the holidays from Halloween to Wintersday. Now after the holidays are over, you go into KC, LA, KAMA and you'll see that people have lowered prices on almost everything and that you will hardley ever find someone posting WTB. Every weapon has been found and has had more than ample time to be over farmed. You dont get the "worth" of items that you used to when you farm now. I used to hear about farming all the time, especially before GWEN came out. Now i rarely hear people farming various things.

So basically my point is - people are pissed because when they make a sell or a buy its like pulling teeth. Its now getting to the point where its hardley worth the time to try to sell or buy/hardley worth the effort to try to get something to sell.

Hollow Gein

Hollow Gein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Menos Espadas

N/

I gave up using Kamadan, LA, or Kaineng to sell/buy things and I find it faster to look up or post on Guru (or whatever site i happen to be selling/buying stuff on). The very idea of standing around for minutes or hours spamming WTB/WTS has lost all appeal.

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

I don't even bother trading, If I don't find something I want or can't sell something I wanna get rid of in about 5 mins time, I give up, if I get a bite on something I'm selling and the person tries to haggle with me, i just stop talking to the person. you want what I'm selling, pay my price or look else where.