Glitches, and Anet's stance on them.

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

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I don't know about the rest of you, but there are some glitches in this game that make it MUCH more fun, and interesting. For instance, there is a glitch behind the Aurora Glade portal I love to hang out in, and that some people use to make videos. They don't help you with the game, and they don't harm anything, they are just neat little niches that you can find and enter if you've been around long enough.

Due to the current crackdowns on bugs and glitches and things, I was wondering what Anet's stance is on these glitches, which do not harm anyone, but instead add some character and mystery to a game that is pretty fun already.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

as far as I know

If you benefit from glitches its the breach of the EULA
even if that benefit is purely fun.


I can never find any glitches, because I don't pay attention to anything but uh.....if they don't harm anything who cares right?

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

by that logic, death leveling for LDoA is breaking the EULA

yet Gaile acknowledges that's the only way to get it

hypocrisy, and that's just one example of many

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

I need to make my sarcasm more detectable.
People are believing it >.<

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

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Ya, all it is is the exact same area as outside there but without monsters- and since you have to pass through that area to finish prophecies anyway, it doesn't give any extra Cart benefit.

Another example would be in a Luxon outpost on the owners area- Bai Passu. There is a glitched area where you can walk out into the Bai Passu Explorable, but only on the mountains. It's pretty neat.

Another would be a very well known one in the Luxon AB outpost for the dragon map(haven't been on that map in awhile, forgot its name). There is a hole in the wall you can go into, and you hit another hole. all it is is a spot that you can take a screenie of and pretend your in a pit jail or something. Just things like that- neat little game quirks that harm no one, benefit no one, and add some personality to the game.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

I am of the opinion that using an exploit will get you in trouble, but glitches in general, won't. Yes, an exploit is a type of glitch, but not all glitches are exploits.

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

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Anyone else have an opinion on the subject? I would really rather not get banned for going into these areas and taking pretty screenshots, so I would like to have everyone's opinion.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Sure - ANet are only concerned with exploits. The glitches mentioned thus far are not exploitable for any profit or unfair advantage, so no foul.

bathazard

bathazard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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i don't think it is an exsploit unless you exsploit it. so i mean use it to your advantage. then its just a fault in the game not something bad but just a "Glitch".

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendar Muert
Anyone else have an opinion on the subject? I would really rather not get banned for going into these areas and taking pretty screenshots, so I would like to have everyone's opinion.
Like everyone else has said I think you are fine. The Aurora Glade glitch has been there as long as I can remember and ANet is fully aware of it. I think they look at it like you do, as a place you can get some good screen shots and just chill without getting any type of advantage.

Just my $0.02 worth!

Krat

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

*shrug* I can't count the number of times I've fooled around outside of Aurora Glade, if I'm going to go AFK for some time and (for whatever reason) I don't want to logout I go dance in on the other side of the portal.

Back when the outposts were full it was quite amusing, not so much any more as the majority of the people there are experienced and know about the glitch. I also have some neat screens, there are a few places you can stand that you can see inside some structures in the far back ground.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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gotta be more specific on glitches. anet doesnt care if u benefit from the glitches as long as it wont affect the economy much. the guild hall mapping was an expolited glitch, but it didnt result in terribad amounts of money being inflated like anything doa related, so people werent banned. the glitch was merely patched.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
I need to make my sarcasm more detectable.
People are believing it >.<

Some forms of humour don't travel very well.

There are civilizations where Sarcasm Irony and Satire are almost unknown.
Still keep up the good work.

edit
I also think that glitches that cannot be used for any gain whatsoever wouldnt draw down the wrath of arenanet.

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

Used "Lacerate" bug In Polymock when it was useable. Lacerate is LAMEst skill in game after Peace and Harmony, so i think that it's good way to use it.

There is still bug at Eredon Terrace, people uses it, and I think it's fair because it's pretty hard to get areas like Jade Quarry.

I still don't accept using glitches like Mallyx was, since you get material profit from it.

Roderick Bravehart

Roderick Bravehart

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Trying to play Crysis on GLaDOS' mainframe.

Grenth's Rejects (GR)

I think the most fun I've had with a glitch was with the Borlis Pass gate bug. That huge 3-story gate halfway through the mission, if you clicked on the lever a whole bunch of times you could slam the gate open and closed real fast.

There was also the hole outside of Barradin's Estate in Pre-Searing where you could climb on top of the hill overlooking the whole area. It's just pure fun as long as it doesn't break the game.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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isn't there a section in Tombs where you can get to the end of the world? or is that in the Dragon's Lair. Seem to remember doing it once or twice

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

A glitch is something not working properly.

An exploit is doing something that takes advantage of glitches, bugs, loopholes, stupid people, a badly designed judicial system, etc.

imo, death leveling is not a glitch. When something kills something, it gains XP.

Is it an exploit? Kinda...but it doesnt really give you any advantage.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Your all going to be banned. Why? You broke some arbitrary unstated rule. I am going to laugh. Why? It is... funny? This is all.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Anet only bans people that abuse glitches to get cash things for much less effort or that breach the eula.

If you are not getting there by breaching the eula (i.e.: Just by using movement and skills) it's fine.

No one is going to ban you for getting 0.1% more of the map revealed.